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1 posted on 09/18/2008 4:14:29 PM PDT by Pinkbell
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To: Pinkbell

Maybe Rove can configure his weather machine to produce an ice storm for them.


2 posted on 09/18/2008 4:19:27 PM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: Pinkbell

Uh....

Ice is not something that makes sense to truck from a central repository across the country. It’s easy to make, just apply refrigeration and power to water.


3 posted on 09/18/2008 4:20:36 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Pinkbell

Also, this is a thinly veiled hackjob on the Ike relief efforts. Pretty stupid, especially since in Texas it’s not actually hot right now, and apparently most people desiring ice are using it to chill food they should have eaten already anyway.


4 posted on 09/18/2008 4:21:57 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Pinkbell

When there’s no electricity ice is nice.


6 posted on 09/18/2008 4:24:58 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Pinkbell
Two weeks ago, before Ike but after Gustav, my wife was driving cross Louisiana and discovered there were no hotel rooms available from Lafayette to the border with Mississippi. She was told that all rooms were blocked for weeks by FEMA, for use by the adjusters.

The same must be true now for Texas. Give each FEMA employee a large ice chest and have them fill it up before leaving their hotel on their disaster rounds, their first stop being an ice distribution point. That way Ice will be distributed to all in need.

7 posted on 09/18/2008 4:27:36 PM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald
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"No soup....uh, ice for you!!!


8 posted on 09/18/2008 4:27:44 PM PDT by Viking2002 (A man who never quits is never defeated.)
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To: Pinkbell
Well maybe they can wire them some ice ...

If ice is the only problem they have, I say live with it. Water is something entirely different and anyone in hurricane areas knows it is your responsibility to buy a couple of 5 gallon cans to store an adequate supply in ... Doesn't everyone know?

10 posted on 09/18/2008 4:31:55 PM PDT by Tarpon (Three things matter when selecting a President - character, character and character.)
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To: Pinkbell

And everyone knows that NO ONE lived in Texas in the 1800s prior to ice machines existing! I mean, the heat would just kil... Oh, wait, what? Really?

Never mind...


11 posted on 09/18/2008 4:36:38 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: Pinkbell
It is true that a lot of ice went to waste during Katrina, but I think that was mostly due to distribution problems. However, in Houston distribution is very efficient and FEMA is giving out tons of ice every day. Power will be out for a long time in some areas, and eating MRE's gets old fast. Ice is needed for some prescription drugs and things like baby formula will also spoil if not kept cool. We don't need to have people getting sick on top of all our other problems.

Actually, a little ice helps everyone keep their cool.

13 posted on 09/18/2008 4:48:09 PM PDT by smokingfrog (God doesn't wear a wrist watch.)
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“FEMA Says No to Ice For Hurricane Survivors”

No, the article says they can not guarantee ice. It is needed for food, medicine, etc. People lived without ice well into the 20th century.

14 posted on 09/18/2008 4:51:13 PM PDT by JSteff
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"It's frustrating that the government can deliver $85 billion to bail out AIG, and they can't deliver ice in Texas."

That is a truly stupid comment. Money transfers are bookkeeping, inconveniencing a small number of electrons, and a large number of taxpayers. To deliver ice requires water, refrigeration, roads, trucks, gas, manpower, and distribution points.

18 posted on 09/18/2008 5:00:18 PM PDT by Fatuncle (Of course I'm ignorant. I'm kind of stupid, too. Teach me.)
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I live in League City. You can buy ice at the grocery store today. You could buy it yesterday in League City. If I can buy ice at the store, I don’t need FEMA to give it to me.

In fact, except in places like Galveston, things are pretty much getting back to normal. Maybe not optimum, because stores have not fully restocked and traffic lights are down, but at least livable. You can get gasoline without waiting in lines. I can make it without eggs for a few days.

We got power back yesterday evening, three days after the rest of the neighborhood. (A transformer was damaged on my block.) Neighbors let us put bags of ice in their freezer to keep our coolers chilled. The ice in our freezer had not yet melted (mainly because the wife unit had frozen a big three gallon container of water in it last Monday), so we got by.


19 posted on 09/18/2008 5:03:18 PM PDT by No Truce With Kings (The opinions expressed are mine! Mine! MINE! All Mine!)
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To: Pinkbell

Got any ice left over from Katrina?


20 posted on 09/18/2008 5:23:17 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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Ben Smilowitz, executive director of the Disaster Accountability Project (DAP), a nonpartisan organization that monitors the nation's disaster response system.

What a load of crap.

It's a made-up, two-bit, liberal, hack organization, established and designed to milk every last ounce of political gain from the tragedy of others.

Give the executive director a cooler and a bicycle and have him deliver ice. Otherwise, his hot air is only making the problem worse.

21 posted on 09/18/2008 5:23:29 PM PDT by been_lurking
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Just wait until they run out of TP.


22 posted on 09/18/2008 5:34:17 PM PDT by Gator113 (Drill here, drill now...... or die.)
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To: Pinkbell

Under NIMS (National Incident Management System) local government passes on requests to regional operations for items they need that they cannot fill with local resources. Regional, in turn, passes on to state amd then state to federal. That is how it works.


23 posted on 09/18/2008 5:35:10 PM PDT by marsh2
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To: Pinkbell

God help the ignorant in this country when there’s a true emergency where Uncle Sam can’t come to the rescue.


25 posted on 09/18/2008 5:48:44 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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Having been through the Florida multiple hurricane nightmare a few years back I can say with some authority WHAT NIMROD CAME UP WITH THAT POLICY??? Agreed, it makes little sense to let a contract for ice with a company in Maine for Florida or Louisiana (which I believe they did) but surely they can get ice within the region.

Sarah, please put FEMA on your list.

27 posted on 09/18/2008 5:51:39 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (don't worry, they only want to take water out of the other guy's side of the bucket.)
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are these people in areas where the local government wants to take the land by condemnation?

There were a few articles citing that the reason people were not being let back in was in order to condemn and demolish homes before people had a chance to return and repair before condemnation “inspections” could take place.


32 posted on 09/19/2008 11:38:01 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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