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1 posted on 09/18/2008 12:35:02 PM PDT by llevrok
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The notion that the Presidency should be limited to people who have shown that they can withstand years of brutal torture as POWs without ever “breaking” in any way, is too ludicrous to warrant a response. Don’t dignify this idiot by wasting time formulating a response to his rantings.


24 posted on 09/18/2008 12:44:26 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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Yet they rush to kiss the a** of terrorists from Gitmo because we put panties on their head.


25 posted on 09/18/2008 12:44:38 PM PDT by RabidBartender
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I heard this too. The guy that called in admitted he was voting for O. This was a hit piece on McCain via Rush Limbaughs call in show. Rush handled him well....but this is just an example of the low scumbags the Dems will do.

It’s going to be a bumpy ride but I am hearing more and more that DEMS that normally vote absolutely, positively as it gets closer...are NOT going to vote for this radical, black, white hating wife, junior Senator. Not going to happen. That’s is why they are sending the message today on Fox from their surrogates......IF McCain at the last week of the campaign will show over and over the G*d D*mn America sermon of Jeremiah Wright and soundbyte of him talking about Obama being a politician......the DEMS will stay away adn absolutely NOT vote. I hear the rumblings...it’s going to happen.


26 posted on 09/18/2008 12:45:01 PM PDT by IndianPrincessOK (McCain/Palin...2 pit bulls, one with lipstick! Pigs will fly with lipstick Nov. 4th)
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Background:

The caller took the view that McCain was unworthy of office, having been broken by his captors in Vietnam. Was an open Obama supporter.

Pointed to McCain book and other McCain statements of giving info to captors.

Assuming the caller was on the level, his reasoning demonstrates that humans are capable of rationalizing anything, and pulling any fantasy out of actual reality.


27 posted on 09/18/2008 12:45:23 PM PDT by mbarker12474 (If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
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It is too bad the Dems feel compelled to use this to try to shame McCain. Of course they are too stupid to realize that he has had to live with that all of these years, and the rest of his life. They can never know what he and the others went through. Nor do they particularly care, to them it is a tool to use.
29 posted on 09/18/2008 12:46:16 PM PDT by midwyf (Wyoming Native. Environmentalism is a religion too.)
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Obama supporter who never "broke" while serving in Vietnam.

30 posted on 09/18/2008 12:46:32 PM PDT by Obadiah (I remember when the climate never changed, then Bush stole the election.)
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From the party that says we shouldn’t waterboard terrorists even if it saves American lives?

Puh-lease.

The left tortures school children worse than they allow terrorists to be tortured.


32 posted on 09/18/2008 12:46:51 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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admitted his "guilt" as a war terrorist.

This was in McCain's acceptance speech.

37 posted on 09/18/2008 12:48:41 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (DEATH TO PUTIN!)
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I heard the same idiot claiming that McCain caved into torture. Rush related that a Navy SEAL told him that “you will give in under torture. Everyone has a limit.” Rush told that jerk that McCain endured torture that nobody could resist and gave up the name of his ship - but - when asked about who his fellow pilots were McCain gave them the defensive line of the Green Bay Packers.

Obama isn’t worthy of even being an American let alone president of our country .....


38 posted on 09/18/2008 12:49:00 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("I Believe In The Law Until It Interferes With Justice")
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Somebody could “break” Obama or any of his supporters in a couple of days max, with just some household goods. Trust me. McCain was being handled by professionals and holding out as long as he did is nothing but testament to his superhuman level of will.


40 posted on 09/18/2008 12:49:46 PM PDT by Uriah_lost (Obama just woke up with a moose head in his bed....)
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According to Little Dick Durbin, McCain went through nothing compared to the excruciating and intolerable hell of turned up air conditioners that the prisoners are subjected to by our sadistic guards at Gitmo.


41 posted on 09/18/2008 12:50:01 PM PDT by Dahoser (America's great untapped alternative energy source: The Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
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A man like Obama, loaded with hubris, would be easy to break. Once they got inside his head he would sign like a bird. Of course, given his appearance an the way he walks he would probably get “special” treatment. (Think T.E. Lawrence)
43 posted on 09/18/2008 12:50:22 PM PDT by RedEyeJack
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I heard that too. It bothered me as like Rush, I haven't read McCain's book. But after sometime in captivity, I don't think whatever McCain said to his captures really was actionable intelligence.

The real thing was this was a stupid sounding seminar caller. I've been listening on the net to Tom Marr in the morning. Yesterday he had a similar call. Tom gave him hell in such a classy way. I miss him in NY.

45 posted on 09/18/2008 12:50:41 PM PDT by AmericaUnite
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I heard that call, and the man was an idiot. He was saying that when McCain 'broke', he gave up operational intelligence by naming the ship, its location, and battle plans. For one thing, McCain probably didn't have any information about overall battle plans, just the flight into for that day. As for the other, by the time they 'broke' him, any information he might have had at the time of his capture would have been irrelevant, anyway. The caller was claiming that McCain couldn't take the Oath of Office to protect and defend the Cconstitution, because he'd already admitted that he was 'broken' and gave up to the enemy.

Sounds like it's just an Obama talking point, and Rush asked the man if he was planning to vote for Obama instead of McCain because of that. The man said he was, and Rush was just incredulous, because he pointed out that if he talked to any Special Forces guy or Navy Seal, they'd tell him that everybody breaks, and it only proves one thing; that TORTURE WORKS. Rush also pointed out that Obama wouldn't have been able to hold out for one day, compared to the weeks and months that John McCain endured. Rush also pointed out that Obama would be more dangerous for the country, because from the first day in office, he'd be handing the country over to Marxism and Socialism, willingly, without anyone torturing him to do it.

46 posted on 09/18/2008 12:50:58 PM PDT by SuziQ
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The same accusations have been leveled at McCain by people on this forum. It’s not just the liberals.


48 posted on 09/18/2008 12:51:18 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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It only takes about 45 minutes to break the strongest man when being tortured. When I was in the service, many years ago, they told us to do anything we could to not talk. I understand that today, they tell them to go ahead and tell them anything. It won’t make any real difference because they’ll break you anyway.


49 posted on 09/18/2008 12:51:26 PM PDT by RC2
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Yeah, I heard it today, some bozo named "Jason" called in to whine about how McCain is "unfit to be President" because he broke under torture while a POW.

Maybe Jason needs to get his rear end over to Vietnam and sit in a tiger cage for a couple of years, while undergoing daily beatings and shock torture?

50 posted on 09/18/2008 12:52:05 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Here they come boys! As thick as grass, and as black as thunder!)
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If you want to see what they did to him, google ‘strappado’.


51 posted on 09/18/2008 12:53:11 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (DEATH TO PUTIN!)
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I thought all POWS broke. Am I missing something here?


52 posted on 09/18/2008 12:53:26 PM PDT by RobRoy (This is comical)
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I heard a caller on a local talk show mention this today. It must their talking point for the day.


53 posted on 09/18/2008 12:54:09 PM PDT by Andy'smom
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