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Vanity: McCain "Broke" When a POW
Me | 9/17/08

Posted on 09/18/2008 12:35:02 PM PDT by llevrok

Please help me track something down I find despicable.

Today I heard Rush say that an Obama supporter is calling John McCain "unfit" to lead because he "broke" when a POW. By "broke", that is - he gave confidential information to his captors or admitted his "guilt" as a war terrorist.

I've read many books on the POW's in captivity both during Vietnam, Korea and WW2. Most - if not all - "break" under torture at some point usually later than sooner. And all who come home carry this huge feeling of guilt for letting their fellow POW's, service, country and family down.

I would defy any liberal who is spreading this as a cause of McCain being too weak to lead spend 1 month - or 1 day - under such conditions and not concede to what their captors want them to say or do.

THis is an attrocious charge and needs to be nipped in the bud. Now.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: mccain; mccainpalin; pow
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To: llevrok

According to Little Dick Durbin, McCain went through nothing compared to the excruciating and intolerable hell of turned up air conditioners that the prisoners are subjected to by our sadistic guards at Gitmo.


41 posted on 09/18/2008 12:50:01 PM PDT by Dahoser (America's great untapped alternative energy source: The Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
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To: henkster

But the caller is right - we should clearly subject 0bama to the same torture McCain endured to measure the messiah’s fitness to be commander in chief.

See you in five years, Barry!


42 posted on 09/18/2008 12:50:03 PM PDT by bolobaby
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To: llevrok
A man like Obama, loaded with hubris, would be easy to break. Once they got inside his head he would sign like a bird. Of course, given his appearance an the way he walks he would probably get “special” treatment. (Think T.E. Lawrence)
43 posted on 09/18/2008 12:50:22 PM PDT by RedEyeJack
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To: henkster

Bill did


44 posted on 09/18/2008 12:50:31 PM PDT by SMARTY ('At some point you get tired of swatting flies, and you have to go for the manure heap' Gen. LeMay)
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To: llevrok
I heard that too. It bothered me as like Rush, I haven't read McCain's book. But after sometime in captivity, I don't think whatever McCain said to his captures really was actionable intelligence.

The real thing was this was a stupid sounding seminar caller. I've been listening on the net to Tom Marr in the morning. Yesterday he had a similar call. Tom gave him hell in such a classy way. I miss him in NY.

45 posted on 09/18/2008 12:50:41 PM PDT by AmericaUnite
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To: llevrok
I heard that call, and the man was an idiot. He was saying that when McCain 'broke', he gave up operational intelligence by naming the ship, its location, and battle plans. For one thing, McCain probably didn't have any information about overall battle plans, just the flight into for that day. As for the other, by the time they 'broke' him, any information he might have had at the time of his capture would have been irrelevant, anyway. The caller was claiming that McCain couldn't take the Oath of Office to protect and defend the Cconstitution, because he'd already admitted that he was 'broken' and gave up to the enemy.

Sounds like it's just an Obama talking point, and Rush asked the man if he was planning to vote for Obama instead of McCain because of that. The man said he was, and Rush was just incredulous, because he pointed out that if he talked to any Special Forces guy or Navy Seal, they'd tell him that everybody breaks, and it only proves one thing; that TORTURE WORKS. Rush also pointed out that Obama wouldn't have been able to hold out for one day, compared to the weeks and months that John McCain endured. Rush also pointed out that Obama would be more dangerous for the country, because from the first day in office, he'd be handing the country over to Marxism and Socialism, willingly, without anyone torturing him to do it.

46 posted on 09/18/2008 12:50:58 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Spktyr

“*Everyone* breaks eventually under torture. *Everyone*.”

Actually, if you’ve read McCain’s book, there was apparently one guy who didn’t. He died while resisting to the very end.


47 posted on 09/18/2008 12:51:17 PM PDT by bolobaby
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To: llevrok

The same accusations have been leveled at McCain by people on this forum. It’s not just the liberals.


48 posted on 09/18/2008 12:51:18 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: llevrok

It only takes about 45 minutes to break the strongest man when being tortured. When I was in the service, many years ago, they told us to do anything we could to not talk. I understand that today, they tell them to go ahead and tell them anything. It won’t make any real difference because they’ll break you anyway.


49 posted on 09/18/2008 12:51:26 PM PDT by RC2
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To: llevrok
Yeah, I heard it today, some bozo named "Jason" called in to whine about how McCain is "unfit to be President" because he broke under torture while a POW.

Maybe Jason needs to get his rear end over to Vietnam and sit in a tiger cage for a couple of years, while undergoing daily beatings and shock torture?

50 posted on 09/18/2008 12:52:05 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Here they come boys! As thick as grass, and as black as thunder!)
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To: llevrok

If you want to see what they did to him, google ‘strappado’.


51 posted on 09/18/2008 12:53:11 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (DEATH TO PUTIN!)
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To: llevrok

I thought all POWS broke. Am I missing something here?


52 posted on 09/18/2008 12:53:26 PM PDT by RobRoy (This is comical)
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To: llevrok

I heard a caller on a local talk show mention this today. It must their talking point for the day.


53 posted on 09/18/2008 12:54:09 PM PDT by Andy'smom
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To: llevrok; All

Naomi Wolf.

Naomi Wolf is Obama’s chicken hawk, the small piece of feminazi excrement who sneers at Senator John McCain for what she thinks he did or did not do during 5.5 years of sub human torture.

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/03/naomi_wolf_attacks_mccain_for.html


54 posted on 09/18/2008 12:54:21 PM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: llevrok

Obama and his leftist comrades are cheese eating surrender monkeys who have no standing to criticize the actions of those who served their country honorably, especially those who were captured in battle and tortured. Obama is a lowly America-hating Marxist coward. Lower than whale droppings. JMHO, of course.


55 posted on 09/18/2008 12:55:20 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: paterfamilias

Me too. I cried with shame for a while later thinking of how I’ve thought of him and how little I had considered what he had gone through for love of this country. I’m now behind him one hundred percent.


56 posted on 09/18/2008 12:55:27 PM PDT by mpackard (Read my Lip-Stick)
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To: llevrok

I challenge them to undergo one session of waterboarding! Compared to the torture McCain endured, waterboarding is a walk in the park. It is succurrelous what Obama is doing. All I can say is, panic is setting in. They’re desperate. They’ll try anything.


57 posted on 09/18/2008 12:56:28 PM PDT by FrdmLvr ("I don't know of a single thing Obama has done except talk and write". -- Newt Gingrich)
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To: midwyf

Still shows the toughness of the man and mental resliance. No one can resist torture forever. I would rather have McCain as President than Obama. Obama would hve given up secret info for any false promise of Russia’s


58 posted on 09/18/2008 12:56:28 PM PDT by jakerobins
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To: Spktyr

It goes beyond the pain though. The psychological abuse human beings suffer distorts reality and weakens their resolve. They will eventually say things true or not. In the end the captors win.


59 posted on 09/18/2008 12:56:54 PM PDT by misterrob (Obama-Keep the Change!)
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To: Brookhaven
Don’t worry about it. His fellow prisionors understood what it was like to be tortured and didn’t blame or condem him. That’s all you need to know.

Exactly how I feel. If McCain was dishonorable, his fellow prisoners would have told us this a long time ago.

Alot of people forget to add the other thing McCain did while a POW.... He turned down a chance at release, because he didn't want special favor from his captors due to his father's postion. IMO that deserved a Medal of Honor.

60 posted on 09/18/2008 12:57:07 PM PDT by American_Centurion (No, I don't trust the government to automatically do the right thing.)
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