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Hurricane Ike Live Thread IV
NOAA/NHC ^ | 14 September 2008 | NOAA/NHC

Posted on 09/12/2008 11:29:13 PM PDT by NautiNurse

The eyewall of Hurricane Ike crossed Galveston Island in the early hours of Saturday morning. Reports indicate as many as 20,000 residents of Galveston Island chose not to evacuate as storm surge engulfed the island. The Freeport Chief of Police reported as many as 2000 residents did not evacuate as flood waters swamped coastal communities. There are widespread reports of power outages and coastal flooding throughout the Texas/Louisiana region. The U.S. Coast Guard received hundreds of calls Friday afternoon to rescue people stranded by flood waters along the barrier islands and Galveston Bay communities.

Multiple fires broke out in the Greater Houston area fueled by strong winds. Fire fighting efforts were hampered by flood waters. Brennan's Restaurant, a landmark in Houston, burned to the ground. A 584-foot freighter crippled in the Gulf of Mexico and its crew of 22 survived the storm after The U.S. Coast Guard was forced to abort rescue efforts Friday afternoon due to foul weather

Gulf Coast wholesale gasoline prices jumped to nearly $5 a gallon over fears that water and wind damage could keep the facilities closed for days or longer. Oil companies had shut down 97.5 percent of production in the Gulf of Mexico by Friday morning and were battening down refineries and petrochemical plants in an area that accounts for one-fifth of U.S. refining capacity.

Exxon Mobil reported evacuating workers from its Gulf Coast offshore platforms and onshore facilities in the anticipated path of Ike, shutting down daily production of about 36,000 barrels of oil and 270 million cubic feet of gas..

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Discussion Updated every 6 hours

Buoy data: Western Gulf of Mexico

Forecast Models

Houston/Galveston Long Range Radar
Corpus Christi Long Range Radar
Brownsville Long Range Radar
Lake Charles Long Range Radar

Ike
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Additional Resources:

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KHOU Houston
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KPLC Lake Charles
KFDM 6 Beaumont/Port Arthur
KKBMT 12 Beaumont
KRIS-TV Corpus Christi
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Brazoria County Emergency Management
Galveston County Emergency Management
Chambers Country Emergency Management
Liberty County Emergency Management

Category Wind Speed Barometric Pressure Storm Surge Damage Potential
Tropical
Depression
< 39 mph
< 34 kts
    Minimal
Tropical
Storm
39 - 73 mph
34 - 63 kts
    Minimal
Hurricane 1
(Weak)
74 - 95 mph
64 - 82 kts
28.94" or more
980.02 mb or more
4.0' - 5.0'
1.2 m - 1.5 m
Minimal damage to vegetation
Hurricane 2
(Moderate)
96 - 110 mph
83 - 95 kts
28.50" - 28.93"
965.12 mb - 979.68 mb
6.0' - 8.0'
1.8 m - 2.4 m
Moderate damage to houses
Hurricane 3
(Strong)
111 - 130 mph
96 - 112 kts
27.91" - 28.49"
945.14 mb - 964.78 mb
9.0' - 12.0'
2.7 m - 3.7 m
Extensive damage to small buildings
Hurricane 4
(Very strong)
131 - 155 mph
113 - 135 kts
27.17" - 27.90"
920.08 mb - 944.80 mb
13.0' - 18.0'
3.9 m - 5.5 m
Extreme structural damage
Hurricane 5
(Devastating)
Greater than 155 mph
Greater than 135 kts
Less than 27.17"
Less than 920.08 mb
Greater than 18.0'
Greater than 5.5m
Catastrophic building failures possible

Previous Threads:
Hurricane Ike Live Thread III
Hurricane Ike Live Thread II
Hurricane Ike Live Thread I
TS Hanna, Hurricane Ike & TS Josephine [Other than that, the tropics are calm]
Tropical Storms Hanna, Ike and Josephine, TD Gustav (Other than that, the tropics are calm)


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: hurricane; hurricaneike; ike; iketexas; louisiana; spartansixdelta; weather
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To: jeffers; NautiNurse

The more I look at those berms the more I think they are

old WWII era fire-walls around storage tanks,,,

Oil soaked ground makes sense too,,,

(No mud-pits in those days.)

NN’s post # 3537 :

“The debris field is rather large, and remarkably far inland.”

And what I see on your map at # 3560,make me think some of

those people may be in those lakes east of Smith Point,,,

High Island (vacation 52’ or 53’) :

I asked my Dad why it was called that,,,

“It’s an Island during Hurricanes.”...;0)


3,641 posted on 09/18/2008 8:51:51 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

I’m so weary of Ike I’ve forgotten where we got the 24K not evacuating figure in the first place.

Does anybody remember who posited this number first?


3,642 posted on 09/18/2008 8:58:55 PM PDT by txhurl (Denali/Bolton)
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To: txflake

Same here,,,Hard to keep up,,,

I’ve seen up to 95,000+ total,,,

4,000 to 30,000 on Bolivar alone,,,(shudder),,,

20,000+ on Galveston,,,

Just heard today that friends of friends stayed on the

West end of Galveston !(3),,,(shakin’ head),,,No Word,,,

I guess some folks on these threads don’t know how much

warning the people on Bolivar got and just how fast the

road out was flooded,,,Ferry shut-down,,,TRAPPED!!!...


3,643 posted on 09/18/2008 9:46:56 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: txflake

The numbers of people who did not evacuate Galveston (20,000) and Freeport (2000) are in the summary at the top of the thread. Each appeared in at least two news reports.


3,644 posted on 09/19/2008 3:11:34 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Palin won more votes in her Wasilla Mayoral race than Biden got in his 2008 Pres run)
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To: jeffers
Thanks for your detailed analysis.

Oddly enough, initially we viewed the "after" images, believing those vehicles were search and rescue. Imagine our surprise when those same vehicles were in the "before" shot. The image immediately to the left of the one in the animation has something that looks like a white helicopter and a boat at the shoreline, possibly SAR.

In the immediate aftermath, search and rescue has top priority over recovery of the deceased. As we approach a week since the storm, recovery efforts will begin in earnest. Due to the vast swath of Ike's path, both search and rescue/recovery are painfully long processes.

3,645 posted on 09/19/2008 3:29:50 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Palin won more votes in her Wasilla Mayoral race than Biden got in his 2008 Pres run)
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To: Amelia

I know way too many folks who don’t carry flood insurance in my coastal area. I know a few people who don’t carry property insurance. You are correct, most of these folks are retired, on limited incomes with no mortgage. Some used to carry property insurance until it tripled a few years ago. They simply could not afford it anymore.


3,646 posted on 09/19/2008 3:36:53 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Palin won more votes in her Wasilla Mayoral race than Biden got in his 2008 Pres run)
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To: LA Woman3
Galveston mayor's rough times continue after Ike

More first responders have become sick from food-borne or infectious disease caused by the lack of uniform sanitation...Galveston City Council meeting adjourned abruptly without the council extending Thomas' emergency management powers for seven more days. So, Thomas extended them herself.

City Council member Elizabeth Beeton brought up concerns that city workers and first responders were getting access to things like tetanus shots, check cashing privileges and other things no ordinary citizen could get.

3,647 posted on 09/19/2008 4:07:14 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Palin won more votes in her Wasilla Mayoral race than Biden got in his 2008 Pres run)
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To: NautiNurse
"They simply could not afford it anymore."

Boomtown ~ Greg Brown

Here come the artists with their intense faces, 
with their need for money and quiet spaces. 
They leave New York, they leave L.A.. 
Here they are - who knows how long they'll stay - 

[chorus:] 
It's a Boomtown 
got another Boomtown 
and it'll boom 
just as long as boom has room. 

Here come the tourists with their blank stares, 
with their fanny packs - they are penny millionaires. 
Something interesting happened here long time ago. 
Now where people used to live their lives the restless
 come and go. 

[repeat chorus] 

Nice to meet you, nice to see you 
in a sheepskin coat made in Korea. 
Welcome to the new age, the new century. 
Welcome to a town with no real reason to be. 

[repeat chorus] 

The rich build sensitive houses and pass their staff around. 
For the rest of us, it's trailers on the outskirts of town. 
We carry them their coffee, wash their shiny cars, 
hear all about how lucky we are
 to be living in a ... 

[repeat chorus] 

The guy from California moves in and relaxes. 
The natives have to move - they cannot pay the taxes. 
Santa Fe has had it. Sedona has, too. 
Maybe you'll be lucky - maybe your town will be the new... 

[repeat chorus]

3,648 posted on 09/19/2008 4:47:05 AM PDT by Enosh (†)
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To: y'all
Missouri City mayor “commandeers” gas station

*Snip*

Owen said the Chevron Service Station at Highway 6 and FM 1092 had been boarded up prior to Hurricane Ike’s arrival and was still unopened. When asked if he had really “commandeered” the station, Owen responded, “I did. I basically told the owner they could open that station up or I would do it for them.”

*Snip*

3,649 posted on 09/19/2008 5:07:07 AM PDT by Enosh (†)
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To: Enosh
...but later I got my own private hurricane

Sounds like a Captain Dan experience.

As long as your fishin for the right Master, grandson of Adam, may your catch be plentiful.

3,650 posted on 09/19/2008 5:43:01 AM PDT by DrewsDad
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To: Enosh

What price did the ststion owner get for the gas, I wonder?


3,651 posted on 09/19/2008 6:12:47 AM PDT by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

Do you have the number of missing people reports filed? If we could compare that to the 20000, it might show a more accurate number. I realize that there were probably some loners but most people have family.


3,652 posted on 09/19/2008 6:19:18 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: NautiNurse
Wow! Someone needs to take charge down there!
3,653 posted on 09/19/2008 6:45:58 AM PDT by LA Woman3 (Sarahcuda!!)
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To: NautiNurse

You would think that part of a disaster plan would be to provide immunizations to responders before a disaster.


3,654 posted on 09/19/2008 6:51:22 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: DrewsMum

Hi again.

Actually, your kids probably wouldn’t be allowed to work at a shelter anyway. We don’t allow anyone under 17, and all volunteers have to undergo background checks and be issued credentials daily.

Evacuees are of all sizes, colors, and character. Most are just victims, but some have victimized. Police do background checks, but sometimes aliases or a crack in the system lets a bad guy slip through. Rules are in place to keep the shelter a safe place and protect both evacuees and volunteers, but it really is no place for children.

A better option that might also be providing hurricane relief would be a food and clothing bank. I know that Impact church just north of downtown Houston runs one. I have no idea about their need for volunteers.

My own kids worked at our food bank when they were growing up — stocking food, helping load, etc. They learned first-hand that not everyone had life as easy as they did.

Bless you for raising yours right.


3,655 posted on 09/19/2008 7:02:41 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

I read it’s the highest point on the coast of the Gulf of Mexico.


3,656 posted on 09/19/2008 11:13:50 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Government is only efficient when it has a gun in its hand.)
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To: CindyDawg; All

Numbers run from 400 to “several thousand” when I searched

> Missing after Hurricane Ike < ,,,

I keep seeing that same artical “washed out to sea” and

“may never be found”/etc. ,,,

“Searchers baffeled by thousands unaccounted for.”

Bolivar Pen. has been searched twice,,,

Self correction on the lack of wreckage on Bolivar :

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2008/09/the_short_but_eventful_life_of.html

(scroll down) Shows wreckage at Crystal Beach(10-15’ deep).

Gilchrist is wiped nearly clean...


3,657 posted on 09/19/2008 12:57:57 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: ichabod1

I guess that’s where it gets it’s name...


3,658 posted on 09/19/2008 12:59:51 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; NautiNurse
Meanwhile, there's a new Invest out there....


3,659 posted on 09/19/2008 2:34:59 PM PDT by Amelia
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

The yellow house on Crystal beach isn’t even missing one shingle. The ridge vent is even 100% intact. It’s amazing the house survived so well. I wonder if that pile of debris that built up around it had anything to do with protecting it


3,660 posted on 09/19/2008 2:47:21 PM PDT by vigilante2 (Thank You Troops)
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