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The Origins of the Universe: A Crash Course
NY Times ^ | September 12, 2008 | BRIAN GREENE

Posted on 09/12/2008 10:07:14 PM PDT by neverdem

THREE hundred feet below the outskirts of Geneva lies part of a 17-mile-long tubular track, circling its way across the French border and back again, whose interior is so pristine and whose nearly 10,000 surrounding magnets so frigid, that it’s one of the emptiest and coldest regions of space in the solar system.

The track is part of the Large Hadron Collider, a technological marvel built by physicists and engineers, and described alternatively as heralding the next revolution in our understanding of the universe or, less felicitously, as a doomsday machine that may destroy the planet.

After more than a decade of development and construction, involving thousands of scientists from dozens of countries at a cost of some $8 billion, the “on” switch for the collider was thrown this week. So what we can expect?

The collider’s workings are straightforward: at full power, trillions of protons will be injected into the otherwise empty track and set racing in opposite directions at speeds exceeding 99.999999 percent of the speed of light — fast enough so that every second the protons will cycle the entire track more than 11,000 times and engage in more than half a billion head-on collisions.

The raison d’être for creating this microscopic maelstrom derives from Einstein’s famous formula, E = mc2, which declares that much like euros and dollars, energy (“E”) and matter or mass (“m”) are convertible currencies (with “c” — the speed of light — specifying the fixed conversion rate). By accelerating the protons to fantastically high speeds, their collisions provide a momentary reservoir of tremendous energy, which can then quickly convert to a broad spectrum of other particles.

It is through such energy-matter conversion that physicists hope to create particles that would have been commonplace just after the big bang, but which for the...

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1 posted on 09/12/2008 10:07:14 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

YEC INTREP


2 posted on 09/12/2008 10:15:07 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: neverdem
And since these more powerful collisions haven’t resulted in any observed astrophysical calamities, the collider’s comparatively tame collisions most assuredly likely won’t either.
3 posted on 09/12/2008 10:29:20 PM PDT by Between the Lines (I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations.)
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To: neverdem

The hyperbole of Physicists.


4 posted on 09/12/2008 10:32:29 PM PDT by valkyry1 (McCain/Palin 2008)
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To: valkyry1

The hyperbole of reporters and editors . . .


5 posted on 09/12/2008 10:40:59 PM PDT by sig226 (Obama '08 - No, You Can't.)
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To: neverdem
"E=MC-squared? Is that like Pie R Square?
Nooo, CORNBREAD R Square, Pie R ROUND!!!"
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6 posted on 09/12/2008 10:47:38 PM PDT by mkjessup ("It's the ONE! it be the ONE!! Look Ethel, it's the ONE! - ** BEHOLD HIS MIGHTY HAND! ** [oh my!])
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To: neverdem

Just curious. If a black hole was created would we even be able to detect it???


7 posted on 09/12/2008 11:02:59 PM PDT by ColdSteelTalon
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To: sig226
The hyperbole of reporters and editors . . .

This is a guest OpEd from a Columbia U. math and physics professor.

8 posted on 09/13/2008 12:32:09 AM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: ColdSteelTalon
Just curious. If a black hole was created would we even be able to detect it???

Maybe a physicist can answer. I'm just a physician.

9 posted on 09/13/2008 12:35:07 AM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: neverdem; valkyry1; LiteKeeper; Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus; metmom; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; ...
 

Excerpt take from Creation On The Web:

...When the accelerator gets up to its full capacity, in about a year, each proton will have a record-breaking 7 trillion electron-volts (TeV) of energy. For comparison, the atoms in your body bounce around each with one-fortieth of an electron-volt.

Trillions of electron-volts is indeed a lot of energy for man to pack into a tiny particle, but God does it all the time, in cosmic rays that strike the earth continually. My doctoral dissertation studied cosmic ray protons with 10 TeV energies striking a block of graphite (consisting of carbon atoms) atop a mountain in Colorado. When the LHC eventually begins clashing two proton beams in opposite directions, the collisions will produce the same results as a 200,000 TeV cosmic-ray proton slamming into a stationary nucleus. To date, nobody has noticed any little black holes stemming from those not-infrequent very high energy cosmic rays, certainly not earth-gobbling black holes!

Such collisions are fascinating to physicists because they probe the nature of matter at very small scales. The LHC will explore particle forces at distances about one-thousandth the diameter of a proton. When the two protons collide, they will produce a tiny ball of extremely hot, dense “plasma” made up of the constituents of protons, “quarks” and “gluons.”

The great temperature of the ball of plasma, over a billion degrees Celsius, should rip (as happens at lower energies) many tiny but massive particles out of the fabric of space itself. (Not to worry—God has made the ‘fabric’ able to repair itself when things cool down.) The distribution of these secondary particles tells physicists how the forces between particles work. Experimenters may even find the elusive particle known as the ‘Higgs boson,2 ’ which I (and a few other physicists) could interpret as the main constituent of the fabric of space itself. So though the Big Bang is science fiction, the tiny bang the LHC will make should tell us lots of fascinating new things about the basic stuff of the cosmos God has created. In the long run, it can’t help but glorify Him.

10 posted on 09/13/2008 12:53:18 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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11 posted on 09/13/2008 12:54:34 AM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: Between the Lines

I understand that the damage done, or being done, will take about 4 yrs to really affect things due to the earth’s mass.


12 posted on 09/13/2008 1:12:24 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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"Oh, I hope not."
Bill Dana
thanks neverdem.

13 posted on 09/13/2008 1:33:33 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: neverdem
The Origins of the Universe: A Crash Course

In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.

Class dismissed.

14 posted on 09/13/2008 2:20:38 AM PDT by ME-262 (Nancy Pelosi is known to the state of CA to render Viagra ineffective causing reproductive harm.)
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To: ColdSteelTalon; neverdem

//If a black hole was created would we even be able to detect it?//

The Man who never was??


15 posted on 09/13/2008 3:33:44 AM PDT by valkyry1 (McCain/Palin 2008)
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To: neverdem

It isn’t a doomsday machine that may destroy the planet. It is an expensive experiment. They got our attention with all the “black hole will engulf the Earth” stuff, and now they will send particles flying and boldly declare that they have found a “new particle” and are close to discovering the secrets of the universe.
Nonsense.


16 posted on 09/13/2008 3:54:12 AM PDT by BooksForTheRight.com (Fight liberal lies with knowledge. Read conservative books and articles.)
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To: neverdem

i’m not a physician, but i play one on tv... and the detection of a black hole being created in the presence of the cern physicists will create responses in their black holes and alert others.

teeman


17 posted on 09/13/2008 4:57:34 AM PDT by teeman8r
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To: neverdem

bflr


18 posted on 09/13/2008 5:10:42 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Isn’t it amazing that the human is just an accident of natural forces, no more special than the next animal,

yet we are in danger of destroying the earth and the fabric of space-time?

/sarc


19 posted on 09/13/2008 5:15:32 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: ColdSteelTalon
Just curious. If a black hole was created would we even be able to detect it???

No, it would immediately cause the surrounding matter to collapse inwards strengthening it. The speed of the collapse and the extreme high band energy release would kill anyone within observable distance with radiation. The destruction of the earth would be measured not in days but in minutes as the imbalance of the rotation of the earth would quickly shake the planet to pieces as the black hole gobbled all it could of the debris within it rapidly growing gravitational reach. All we would have seen in America was an earthquake that quickly accelerated beyond measurement as the earths crust collapsed toward the ever growing gravitational sinkhole.

20 posted on 09/13/2008 5:25:50 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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