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Hurricane Ike Live Thread III
NOAA/NHC ^ | 12 September 2008 | NOAA/NHC

Posted on 09/12/2008 5:12:09 AM PDT by NautiNurse

Large and dangerous Hurricane Ike approaching the Upper Texas coast. Mandatory evacuations began in earnest Thursday as an estimated one million coastal residents headed inland. There were widespread reports of gas stations running out of fuel.

The National Weather Service posted dire storm surge predictions of 20-25 ft storm surge along the coast and bay heads. Hurricane warnings covered a 400 mile swath of the Gulf of Mexico.

Wholesale gasoline prices spiked 30 percent Thursday, or nearly $1 a gallon, out of fear of what Ike might do.

Public Advisory Updated every 3 hours

Discussion Updated every 6 hours

Buoy data: Western Gulf of Mexico

Forecast Models

Houston/Galveston Long Range Radar
Corpus Christi Long Range Radar
Brownsville Long Range Radar
Lake Charles Long Range Radar

Ike
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Additional Resources:

Navy Tropical Cyclone
Storm Pulse Very cool site

KHOU Houston
ABC 13 News Houston
FOX News Houston

KPLC Lake Charles
KFDM 6 Beaumont/Port Arthur
KKBMT 12 Beaumont
KRIS-TV Corpus Christi
KZTV Corpus Christi

Brazoria County Emergency Management
Galveston County Emergency Management
Chambers Country Emergency Management
Liberty County Emergency Management

Category Wind Speed Barometric Pressure Storm Surge Damage Potential
Tropical
Depression
< 39 mph
< 34 kts
    Minimal
Tropical
Storm
39 - 73 mph
34 - 63 kts
    Minimal
Hurricane 1
(Weak)
74 - 95 mph
64 - 82 kts
28.94" or more
980.02 mb or more
4.0' - 5.0'
1.2 m - 1.5 m
Minimal damage to vegetation
Hurricane 2
(Moderate)
96 - 110 mph
83 - 95 kts
28.50" - 28.93"
965.12 mb - 979.68 mb
6.0' - 8.0'
1.8 m - 2.4 m
Moderate damage to houses
Hurricane 3
(Strong)
111 - 130 mph
96 - 112 kts
27.91" - 28.49"
945.14 mb - 964.78 mb
9.0' - 12.0'
2.7 m - 3.7 m
Extensive damage to small buildings
Hurricane 4
(Very strong)
131 - 155 mph
113 - 135 kts
27.17" - 27.90"
920.08 mb - 944.80 mb
13.0' - 18.0'
3.9 m - 5.5 m
Extreme structural damage
Hurricane 5
(Devastating)
Greater than 155 mph
Greater than 135 kts
Less than 27.17"
Less than 920.08 mb
Greater than 18.0'
Greater than 5.5m
Catastrophic building failures possible

Previous Threads:
Hurricane Ike Live Thread II
Hurricane Ike Live Thread I
TS Hanna, Hurricane Ike & TS Josephine [Other than that, the tropics are calm]
Tropical Storms Hanna, Ike and Josephine, TD Gustav (Other than that, the tropics are calm)


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Arkansas; US: Louisiana; US: Oklahoma; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: arkansas; california; crude; desiel; drill; flordia; florida; galveston; gasoline; gulf; hurricane; ike; louisiana; offshore; oil; oklahoma; prices; refineries; rigs; storm; texas; weather
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To: Allegra
I've come up with a great Tshirt for this hurricane:

YIKES

821 posted on 09/12/2008 12:25:59 PM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (The only difference between Obama and Osama is BS......)
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To: topher
Maybe if people hear of Camille, they will evacuate when ordered to do so.

Good luck with that blind acquiescence to authority.

Come order me off my property. I'll buy you a sandwich.

822 posted on 09/12/2008 12:26:08 PM PDT by humblegunner (I'm voting for McCain because he's white.)
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To: Aggie Mama

Hey AM,

Yeah, I think they underestimated too. The Galveston mayor is playing CYA.

I just finished laundry and cleaning the kitchen. :-)

I dont think it is going to break right, but lets hope it moves fast and is over quickly. I told my family that it feels like sitting on an ant hill, just waiting for it.

Most of my neighborhood are riding it out, too.


823 posted on 09/12/2008 12:26:11 PM PDT by RikaStrom (Inwood North - near Montgomery and West Gulf Bank)
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To: Allegra; TheMom; Eaker; Xenalyte

Yes, did you guys board up?

(Not you, Allegra! lol!!!)


824 posted on 09/12/2008 12:26:19 PM PDT by pax_et_bonum (That midget hates it when I do that.)
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To: Xenalyte; TheMom; Eaker
I think Nick’s will survive ... it better! No other bar will tolerate us.

Plus, they have the best across-the-street live entertainment.

I'll be home in late November through to about December 17. We'll have to see what's happening in the Food Town parking lot when I'm home.

Y'all be safe. Is west Houston boarding up?

825 posted on 09/12/2008 12:26:32 PM PDT by Allegra (Prayers up for all in Ike's path. Please be safe...my hometown.)
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To: Jaded

Latte - French for, you paid too much for this coffee.
Hunkered down here in Conroe waiting for Ike.
God Bless all in the path of Hurricane Ike.


826 posted on 09/12/2008 12:26:39 PM PDT by beckybea (("Courage is being scared to death and saddling up anyway." John Wayne)
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To: numberonepal

Interesting analogy of the wind speed on that oil platform to high rise buildings in Houston. Thanks.


827 posted on 09/12/2008 12:27:35 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Palin won more votes in her Wasilla Mayoral race than Biden got in his 2008 Pres run)
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To: gracesdad
The Richelieu Apartments were indeed destroyed in Camille and something like 8 of the 23 people who were there died. However, the survivors who have been interviewed say they were not having a party.

Yes, that is also what I have read. Here is what appears to be the real story behind what happened at the Richelieu Apartments during Hurricane Camille.

828 posted on 09/12/2008 12:28:24 PM PDT by PacesPaines
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To: Allegra; Xenalyte; Eaker

Can’t beat a good beat down show for free!

It is cloudy here, sprinkled just a bit ‘bout 30 minutes ago, wind had not yet blown over 10 mph.

I think I may go catch a nap, cause this may be a long night.


829 posted on 09/12/2008 12:28:35 PM PDT by TheMom (Southwest Houston - near Sugar Land and Stafford)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
I've come up with a great Tshirt for this hurricane:

YIKES

Simple, straight and to the point. I like it. ;-)

830 posted on 09/12/2008 12:29:18 PM PDT by Allegra (Prayers up for all in Ike's path. Please be safe...my hometown.)
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To: conservativeinferno
Two articles about this from the Houston Chronicle:

As refineries button up, fuel supplies cause concern

Gas stations run short amid rush to fill up

Both are Freerepublic posts with links to the Houston Chronicle.

A quote from one article:

On Thursday, fuel station operators woke up to find the spot price for gasoline had risen nearly $1.50 a gallon overnight.

831 posted on 09/12/2008 12:29:20 PM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

Very good!


832 posted on 09/12/2008 12:30:07 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Palin won more votes in her Wasilla Mayoral race than Biden got in his 2008 Pres run)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

YIKES

I like it.


833 posted on 09/12/2008 12:31:14 PM PDT by TheMom (Southwest Houston - near Sugar Land and Stafford)
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To: Xenalyte
Please put me on your ping list. I have a house in Galveston and another in The Woodlands (even though I live halfway around the world).
834 posted on 09/12/2008 12:31:37 PM PDT by Cheesehead In Dubai (used to be Cheesehead in Texas, but I moved)
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To: Moose4

NOAA is predicting a 20-25 foot surge with waves ON TOP OF THAT of around 20 feet.


835 posted on 09/12/2008 12:31:37 PM PDT by conservativeinferno (My SUV is the urban squirrel's worst predator.)
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To: DollyCali
boy what a dummy being interviewed in Galveston now on Houston station

was that the blonde woman? I saw her on CNN, and her logic was that she couldnt evacuate because she had animals and kids, and had to protect her house. Right. I feel sorry for the kids. Actually, I don't believe them, I think they just came out to get on tv, and will leave late.

836 posted on 09/12/2008 12:31:40 PM PDT by jdub
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To: Allegra

The Katy Freeway Canal should be flowing pretty good though.


837 posted on 09/12/2008 12:32:39 PM PDT by Deaf Smith
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To: Abigail Adams

Coast Guard can not get to them.They have to ride out the storm-per KHOU-they just said it.
http://www.khou.com/video/?nvid=178826&live=yes&noad=yes


838 posted on 09/12/2008 12:32:48 PM PDT by fatima (Put your lipstick on girls and go vote.)
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To: dirtboy; texasredtop
Contrary to what you might think, the surge at the top of Galveston Bay will be even higher than the max surge at the coast. So if the surge at the coast is OVER 25 feet, it means it could be well over 30 feet at the top of the bay.

Here's what Dr. Masters has to say:

According to the latest NWS forecast from the Galveston office, we can expect the following storm surges in Texas:

snip

Shoreline of Galveston Bay...15 to 25 feet

NOAA's experimental storm surge forecast is calling for a 10% chance that the storm tide from Ike will reach 27-30 feet on the south and east sides of Houston.

Those are worst-case scenarios, as Dr. Masters points out here:

We've put together today a page of storm surge risks for the Texas coast. These images show the maximum storm tide (storm surge plus an adjustment for hitting at high tide) expected from a mid-strength hurricane of each Saffir-Simpson Category hitting anywhere along the coast of Texas at high tide. These so-called "MOMs" (Maximum Of the Maximum Envelope Of Waters) are computed using NOAA's SLOSH storm surge model. A sample image is shown in Figure 1 for a Category 4 hurricane affecting the Galveston area. A storm of this magnitude is expected to bring a maximum 22 foot storm tide (storm surge plus a 2-foot adjustment in case it hits at high tide) to Galveston. A maximum 28-foot storm tide could affect the built-up areas along the east side of Houston. Note that some Category 4 hurricanes making a direct hit on Galveston will bring a significantly lower storm surge than the worst-case 22-foot scenario pictured here.

Your prediction of "well over 30 feet at the top of the bay" is unfounded, hysterical, and irresponsible fear-mongering.

839 posted on 09/12/2008 12:33:15 PM PDT by Romulus ("Ira enim viri iustitiam Dei non operatur")
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To: topher
Camille.
840 posted on 09/12/2008 12:33:16 PM PDT by 1066AD
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