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Hurricane Ike Live Thread III
NOAA/NHC ^ | 12 September 2008 | NOAA/NHC

Posted on 09/12/2008 5:12:09 AM PDT by NautiNurse

Large and dangerous Hurricane Ike approaching the Upper Texas coast. Mandatory evacuations began in earnest Thursday as an estimated one million coastal residents headed inland. There were widespread reports of gas stations running out of fuel.

The National Weather Service posted dire storm surge predictions of 20-25 ft storm surge along the coast and bay heads. Hurricane warnings covered a 400 mile swath of the Gulf of Mexico.

Wholesale gasoline prices spiked 30 percent Thursday, or nearly $1 a gallon, out of fear of what Ike might do.

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Discussion Updated every 6 hours

Buoy data: Western Gulf of Mexico

Forecast Models

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Corpus Christi Long Range Radar
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KHOU Houston
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KPLC Lake Charles
KFDM 6 Beaumont/Port Arthur
KKBMT 12 Beaumont
KRIS-TV Corpus Christi
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Brazoria County Emergency Management
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Chambers Country Emergency Management
Liberty County Emergency Management

Category Wind Speed Barometric Pressure Storm Surge Damage Potential
Tropical
Depression
< 39 mph
< 34 kts
    Minimal
Tropical
Storm
39 - 73 mph
34 - 63 kts
    Minimal
Hurricane 1
(Weak)
74 - 95 mph
64 - 82 kts
28.94" or more
980.02 mb or more
4.0' - 5.0'
1.2 m - 1.5 m
Minimal damage to vegetation
Hurricane 2
(Moderate)
96 - 110 mph
83 - 95 kts
28.50" - 28.93"
965.12 mb - 979.68 mb
6.0' - 8.0'
1.8 m - 2.4 m
Moderate damage to houses
Hurricane 3
(Strong)
111 - 130 mph
96 - 112 kts
27.91" - 28.49"
945.14 mb - 964.78 mb
9.0' - 12.0'
2.7 m - 3.7 m
Extensive damage to small buildings
Hurricane 4
(Very strong)
131 - 155 mph
113 - 135 kts
27.17" - 27.90"
920.08 mb - 944.80 mb
13.0' - 18.0'
3.9 m - 5.5 m
Extreme structural damage
Hurricane 5
(Devastating)
Greater than 155 mph
Greater than 135 kts
Less than 27.17"
Less than 920.08 mb
Greater than 18.0'
Greater than 5.5m
Catastrophic building failures possible

Previous Threads:
Hurricane Ike Live Thread II
Hurricane Ike Live Thread I
TS Hanna, Hurricane Ike & TS Josephine [Other than that, the tropics are calm]
Tropical Storms Hanna, Ike and Josephine, TD Gustav (Other than that, the tropics are calm)


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Arkansas; US: Louisiana; US: Oklahoma; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: arkansas; california; crude; desiel; drill; flordia; florida; galveston; gasoline; gulf; hurricane; ike; louisiana; offshore; oil; oklahoma; prices; refineries; rigs; storm; texas; weather
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To: Walmartian
"Do you know anything about evacuations in the Deer Park area?"

Per current projections, http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tracking/at200809_surge.html?MR=1, Deer Park is forcast for a 30' storm surge. Add the wind and the waves and this = complete devastation. I doubt anyone could survive that. The PSI involved in large hurricane storm surges (such as this) compare with the pressures of a nuclear blast. Only roads and sidewalks remain and most will be buried under debris.

261 posted on 09/12/2008 7:55:49 AM PDT by Justa (The media lied while Americans died.)
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To: mewzilla
Hurricane Ike: Galveston says 25% ignored evacuation order

God help them.

262 posted on 09/12/2008 7:57:36 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: Moose4

There was a post yesterday referred to me suggesting that the NHC official policy has hyped their tone up to scare people more in the last year or so. That may account for the difference we’re seeing. It certainly makes it more difficult for me to evaluate, since they decided to change their wording of these advisories.


263 posted on 09/12/2008 7:57:50 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: texasredtop

My niece and her family live in Deer Park, but teach in Channelview. I don’t know if the schools are closed, but they usually go to his folks in Nac.


264 posted on 09/12/2008 7:58:26 AM PDT by mathluv (The Barracuda and the Maverick will take on the Messiah and the Mouth)
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To: Justa
I doubt anyone could survive that. The PSI involved in large hurricane storm surges (such as this) compare with the pressures of a nuclear blast. Only roads and sidewalks remain and most will be buried under debris.

I guess that answers my question! Thanks Justa.

265 posted on 09/12/2008 7:59:30 AM PDT by Walmartian (Doesnt sound very Hopenchangey to me.)
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To: SE Mom

About ten mins. ago I heard Fox news say there is a new warning which says all people in low lying areas in Houston should get out.


266 posted on 09/12/2008 8:00:26 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (IKE- DON'T MESS WITH TEXAS!!!)
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To: penelopesire

I don’t remember if she’s the same. She said she’s six feet above the 20-ft sea wall so assumes this gives her a 26 ft advantage.

I really don’t think she gets what’s about to hit the island.


267 posted on 09/12/2008 8:00:33 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet-McCain/Palin 08)
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To: jpsb; NautiNurse
From the other now locked thread....

Twelve feet what? Above sea level? With a storm surge of 20 feet expected and up to 50 foot waves?

Sharpie on the chest is a good idea. If they find your body it would be useful information. Don't forget your FR account information so that we know it's you.

268 posted on 09/12/2008 8:01:45 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: mathluv; penelopesire; SE Mom; Miss Didi

Off topic:

McCains are coming up on
The View, if you can handle
it. My remote is at hand.


269 posted on 09/12/2008 8:02:19 AM PDT by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: mathluv

The schools are closed in Channelview as well as all over SE Tx.


270 posted on 09/12/2008 8:02:23 AM PDT by lonestar (Jasper)
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To: lonestar

the model is NOT GOOD beyond TX

that was my whole point... it’s not going to be a hurricane in detroit - but the “best” model has been doing that for two days now.


271 posted on 09/12/2008 8:02:35 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: MeekOneGOP

Remember that woman who always said “Where is the beef?” Well, I say “Where is the Gulf?” That picture shows the storm takes up most of the GOM!


272 posted on 09/12/2008 8:03:26 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (IKE- DON'T MESS WITH TEXAS!!!)
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To: metmom

Headline News just had a coastal
shot with waves looking those that
hit Cuba ... terrifying.


273 posted on 09/12/2008 8:04:15 AM PDT by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

Gov Perry has ordered all low areas in Houston to LEAVE NOW!


274 posted on 09/12/2008 8:04:36 AM PDT by mathluv (The Barracuda and the Maverick will take on the Messiah and the Mouth)
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To: silentknight
Gas in Illinois and Kentucky is as high as $5 now. It jumped nearly $2 overnight.

Looks like you have folks profiteering from this hurricane.

275 posted on 09/12/2008 8:05:06 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (McCain/Palin 2008 : Palin the Paladin 2012)
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To: mewzilla

The dem mayor did not order folks to go until 5:00 PM yesterday and only for the western side of the island.... even though the Gov. and the National weather service warned them repeatedly to get out!

Looks like we are in for another Nagin Nada moment!

(snip)

“When Hurricane Ike approached Galveston, on September 10 at noon Thomas said that although she did not expect to be ordering an evacuation, she asked for a voluntary evacuation of the western part of the island. At 5 PM this hardened to a mandatory order and she suggested voluntary evacuation for the rest of the island.

Thomas ordered the full evacuation 9:30 AM on September 11, in a news conference with Galveston County Judge Jim Yarbrough. She told the media at the time that she had wanted to avoid an evacuation order.”

(EYE ROLL)


276 posted on 09/12/2008 8:05:18 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Justa

I’m still unable to find a contour map of Galveston Island.

The highest elevation I’ve seen mentioned on it so far is 5 meters.

If that is the case, it will be gone on Sunday.


277 posted on 09/12/2008 8:05:18 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: Moose4

Just saw on KHOU that the roads leaving Galveston are starting to flood. If people dont leave now, they wont be able to shortly.


278 posted on 09/12/2008 8:06:23 AM PDT by RikaStrom (The number one rule of the Kama Sutra is that you both be on the same page.../Exeter 051705)
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To: mathluv

Schools are all closed today. A few of them south of us were closed yesterday too.


279 posted on 09/12/2008 8:06:25 AM PDT by texasredtop
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To: AFPhys

http://3dnature.com/anim/Galveston_TX-20ft-high.mp4

That is an animation of a 20’ surge in Galveston!


280 posted on 09/12/2008 8:06:25 AM PDT by conservativeinferno (My SUV is the urban squirrel's worst predator.)
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