[RexBeach]

“If we’re descended from monkeys and apes, how come there are still monkeys and apes?”

-George Carlin

“Beat’s me.”

-Rex

[edpc]

Is the lay public really too dense for the deeper knowledge of how evolution works?

I suppose I am, since nobody's ever been able to explain something to me:

If we evolved from lower animals, why do they still exist?

[MrEdd]

When your theory doesn’t hold water, claim every one else is too stupid to understand your brilliance.

Guy must be one of the Obama campaign strategists.

[scory]

If all the ordinary plebes understand the Mysteries there would be no need for High Priests. And then where would we be?

[GodGunsGuts]

Could it be that the Temple of Darwin wants to keep the public’s understanding of natural selection watered down for fear that they might realize that Darwin’s ToE is collapsing under the weight of falsifying scientific evidence?

For more, see the following:

Can evolution Survive Without Darwin?

http://creationsafaris.com/crev200808.htm#20080829a

[null and void]

[ClearCase_guy]

If he won't explain the details to me, should I just accept his assertions on faith?

And woudl that make Evolution a religion?

[tumblindice]

“Are you too dumb to understand evolution?”

I’m happy if I leave the mens room with my fly zipped.

[ripley]

question:

did darwin explain the divergence of one life form from from another or did he just talk about species evolving within species as an adaptation to environment?

it seems that evolutionists are always trying to find that missing link which they say exists but is just as elusive as ever. (thanks in advance)

[Uri’el-2012]

Astrobiologist David Deamer believes that life can spontaneously emerge without design

That is another hypothetical construct as is Darwinian Evolution.

It can never be observed once much less twice or three times.

[mountainlion]

The odds of evolution happening exceeds the number of the stars in the universe. Even the most simple single cell needs over 128 proteins assembled precisely. This statistically would take billions of years in a proper environment. Then the cell would have to learn to reproduce. There should be more transitional creatures (missing links) than creatures. There are no missing links. Some atheists go to ridiculous lengths to try to prove no God!

[Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus]

Astrobiologist David Deamer believes that life can spontaneously emerge without design, but he thinks lay people are too uneducated to understand how this is possible, so he gives them the watered-down version of Darwin’s natural selection instead, which he knows is inadequate to explain the complexity of life.

I thought evolutionists were always telling us that origin-of-life arguments have nothing to do with evolution?

[<1/1,000,000th%]

Studies in molecular self-organization continued to focus on amphiphilic molecules, which are molecules that possess both hydrophobic and hydrophilic regions. These molecules tend to self-organize spontaneously in an aqueous environment (Figure 1). Co-Investigators Robert Hazen and David Deamer continued their investigations of suites of molecules produced when an aqueous solution of pyruvate is subjected to hydrothermal conditions (250oC at 0.2 GPa). Their efforts involved identification of the lipid-like molecules that form vesicles in water.

Figure 1. The self-assembly of amphiphiles occurs when molecules with both hydrophilic and hydrophobic regions arrange themselves into a minimum-energy configuration, such as a spherical phospholipid bilayer vesicle. Deamer and coworkers also studied the abiotic formation of aliphatic lipid compounds (i.e., fatty acids, alcohols, and acylglycerols) as has been reported to occur at elevated temperatures and pressures under simulated hydrothermal conditions. Although abiotic synthetic chemistry can occur under these conditions, the prebiotic self-assembly of micelles to bilayer to vesicles (protocells) may have occurred elsewhere. Because they are abundant products of Fischer-Tropsch-type reactions and are also present in the organic components of carbonaceous meteorites, amphiphilic compounds such as fatty acids are important candidates for micelle/bilayer/vesicle formation.

Thus, it is of interest to determine whether more complex amphiphilic precursor compounds capable of assembling into stable membrane structures can be synthesized under hydrothermal conditions. Hydrothermal experiments were conducted to study condensation reactions of model lipid precursors in aqueous media to form acylglycerols (glyceryl alkanoates) at elevated temperature under confining pressure. Nine different alkanoic acids ranging from C7 to C16 (except C8) were used in these experiments. The condensation products were two isomers each of monoacylglycerols and diacylglycerols, as well as the corresponding triacylglycerol. The results indicated that (1) condensation (dehydration) reactions are possible under aqueous pyrolysis conditions, (2) abiotic synthesis and subsequent condensation reactions of aliphatic lipid compounds are possible under hydrothermal conditions, and (3) such molecules have robust properties of self-assembly into membranous structures that would be suitable boundary structures for primitive forms of cellular life.

Doesn't look complicated to me. /sarcasm

[GodGunsGuts]

ping!

[DungeonMaster]

Are You Too Dumb to Understand Evolution?

Evolution is just like global warming that way.

[js1138]

That’s a rhetorical question, right? I mean, it’s like asking if you are dumb enough to believe anal sex doesn’t transmit AIDS, or dumb enough to believe gold will reach $1650 this summer.

[Banjoguy]

I do understand the second law of thermodynamics. And I know a belief system when I see one.

There is one thing I don't understand though. That is the other force at work in the universe beside the four that we know of, i.e. that is the unmeasured, supernatural, invisible force which defies the second law of thermodynamics and creates order out of disorder.

Can some one help me with that with explanations that don't include words like "might", "may', "could have", "probably", etc.,etc.,etc.

[P-Marlowe]

Astrobiologist David Deamer believes that life can spontaneously emerge without design, but he thinks lay people are too uneducated to understand how this is possible

I thought abiogenesis was not part of the "evolution" theology. That's what I've been told by all the Evos on this forum. Now here is a guy that says that anyone who doesn't understand how life can form spontaneously is an idiot.

Does that mean that all the EVOS on this forum are idiots just like us creationists?

[hosepipe]

No monkey/primate ever worshipped a God.. if man evolved from primates to finally invent God then not believing in God is devolution.. and a throwback..

Therefore not beliveing that God created the Universe is monkey like and apeing behavior..
That is IF man evolved from apes.. RAP music does seem to mimic chimp social behaviors though.. posturing, making noises, walking off emotional tensions, shakeing bushes, facial and limb contortions, sexual positioning.. Its a hard choice..

[Mark319]

This Freeper believes himself singularly able to determine what is and is not worthy of debate in this matter so maybe we should simply refer all questions to him...

Original post:

‘The evolutionists are also starting to sound a bit like the climate-change crowd, “It’s settled and there is no reason for dabate”.’

Reply:

I’ve noticed that is a common theme now. Smear people who understand and acknowledge the legitimacy of the theory of evolution as ignorant scammers like the GW crowd.

You arguement is SO weak that is what you have to resort to.

Nothing is settled with respect to the theory of evolution but if you expect real scientists to entertain physical impossibilites and stories of magic as legitmate positions from which to debate science, you have no place in such a debate.
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