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Are You Too Dumb to Understand Evolution?
CreationEvolutionHeadlines ^ | September 10, 2008

Posted on 09/11/2008 9:55:10 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

Sept 10, 2008 — Astrobiologist David Deamer believes that life can spontaneously emerge without design, but he thinks lay people are too uneducated to understand how this is possible, so he gives them the watered-down version of Darwin’s natural selection instead, which he knows is inadequate to explain the complexity of life. That’s what he seemed to be telling reporter Susan Mazur in an interview for the Scoop (New Zealand). Is the lay public really too dense for the deeper knowledge of how evolution works?...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: 2smart2fall4it; atheistagenda; creation; crevo; darwin; evolution; god; intelligentdesign; scientism
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To: edpc

If Americans came from Europe why are there still Europeans?

And yes, the author of this piece is too dumb to understand evolution.


21 posted on 09/11/2008 10:13:15 AM PDT by allmendream (If "the New Yorker" makes a joke, and liberals don't get it, is it still funny?)
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To: MrEdd

This is how ALGORE got his start as the GOD of Environmental Science.


22 posted on 09/11/2008 10:13:16 AM PDT by wmileo (I miss Ronald Wilson Reagan. POTUS #40)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Astrobiologist David Deamer believes that life can spontaneously emerge without design, but he thinks lay people are too uneducated to understand how this is possible, so he gives them the watered-down version of Darwin’s natural selection instead, which he knows is inadequate to explain the complexity of life.

I thought evolutionists were always telling us that origin-of-life arguments have nothing to do with evolution?

23 posted on 09/11/2008 10:13:55 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Here they come boys! As thick as grass, and as black as thunder!)
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To: Glenn

What kind of animals did we come from? Apes and monkeys? Because if that’s the case, they do still exist. In fact, my understand of the fossils that have been found and were interpreted to be cro-magnin or neanderthal were apes and monkeys such as “Lucy” and the fake “Piltdown Man.” Is this correct?


24 posted on 09/11/2008 10:14:42 AM PDT by libertylass (Her support of aerial hunting....)
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To: Sgt_Schultze
More curiously, why aren’t those same monkeys and apes evolving into lower forms of humans?

I think you skipped that day in 9th grade biology class where they explained this to the class.

25 posted on 09/11/2008 10:15:09 AM PDT by E=MC2
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To: XeniaSt

As someone pointed out above, this is where Darwin’s theory becomes a faith. Indeed, the high priests of the Temple of Darwin are quite open about it if you ask them the right question:

“What do you believe is true even though you cannot prove it?”

Richard Dawkins: “I believe that all life, all intelligence, all creativity and all ‘design’ anywhere in the universe, is the direct or indirect product of Darwinian natural selection.”

http://www.iscid.org/papers/Williams_GodDelusionReview_02012007.pdf


26 posted on 09/11/2008 10:17:30 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: edpc
If we evolved from lower animals, why do they still exist?

Why wouldn't they? There's nothing in the Theory of Evolution that requires an ancestral species to go extinct.

But, point in fact, though we share a common ancestor with the other great apes, that common ancestor is extinct.

27 posted on 09/11/2008 10:17:43 AM PDT by Citizen Blade (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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To: wmileo

ROFL!


28 posted on 09/11/2008 10:17:45 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (9-11-01 Never Forget)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Studies in molecular self-organization continued to focus on amphiphilic molecules, which are molecules that possess both hydrophobic and hydrophilic regions. These molecules tend to self-organize spontaneously in an aqueous environment (Figure 1). Co-Investigators Robert Hazen and David Deamer continued their investigations of suites of molecules produced when an aqueous solution of pyruvate is subjected to hydrothermal conditions (250oC at 0.2 GPa). Their efforts involved identification of the lipid-like molecules that form vesicles in water.

Figure 1. The self-assembly of amphiphiles occurs when molecules with both hydrophilic and hydrophobic regions arrange themselves into a minimum-energy configuration, such as a spherical phospholipid bilayer vesicle. Deamer and coworkers also studied the abiotic formation of aliphatic lipid compounds (i.e., fatty acids, alcohols, and acylglycerols) as has been reported to occur at elevated temperatures and pressures under simulated hydrothermal conditions. Although abiotic synthetic chemistry can occur under these conditions, the prebiotic self-assembly of micelles to bilayer to vesicles (protocells) may have occurred elsewhere. Because they are abundant products of Fischer-Tropsch-type reactions and are also present in the organic components of carbonaceous meteorites, amphiphilic compounds such as fatty acids are important candidates for micelle/bilayer/vesicle formation.

Thus, it is of interest to determine whether more complex amphiphilic precursor compounds capable of assembling into stable membrane structures can be synthesized under hydrothermal conditions. Hydrothermal experiments were conducted to study condensation reactions of model lipid precursors in aqueous media to form acylglycerols (glyceryl alkanoates) at elevated temperature under confining pressure. Nine different alkanoic acids ranging from C7 to C16 (except C8) were used in these experiments. The condensation products were two isomers each of monoacylglycerols and diacylglycerols, as well as the corresponding triacylglycerol. The results indicated that (1) condensation (dehydration) reactions are possible under aqueous pyrolysis conditions, (2) abiotic synthesis and subsequent condensation reactions of aliphatic lipid compounds are possible under hydrothermal conditions, and (3) such molecules have robust properties of self-assembly into membranous structures that would be suitable boundary structures for primitive forms of cellular life.

Doesn't look complicated to me. /sarcasm

29 posted on 09/11/2008 10:18:22 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: tpanther; Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

ping!


30 posted on 09/11/2008 10:18:22 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
Are You Too Dumb to Understand Evolution?

Evolution is just like global warming that way.

31 posted on 09/11/2008 10:19:06 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Proverbs 24:21 My son, fear the LORD and the king; Do not associate with those given to CHANGE)
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To: edpc

Evolution does NOT say any current species evolved from any other of the current species.

Current species, by natural selection, came from ancestors who were different.

Homo sapiens did not evolve from today’s apes & monkeys. Today’s primates evolved from ancestors who were different from any of today’s primates. Not only are we changed from our ancestors, so are all the other species that exist today also different from THEIR ancestors.

Possums did not evolve from kangaroos, nor did kangaroos evolve from possums. Both evolved from a common ancestor that lived millions of years ago.


32 posted on 09/11/2008 10:19:26 AM PDT by leftcoaster
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To: Sgt_Schultze
More curiously, why aren’t those same monkeys and apes evolving into lower forms of humans?

Because evolution is a process that takes hundreds of thousands, even millions of years to take place. Which means that we can't actually observe it taking place. Which means our only evidence for it is forensic, and therefore open to subjective interpretation. Which means that you have to essentially take our particular interpretation on faith. So stop asking questions, you creationiost whackjob!

/s

33 posted on 09/11/2008 10:20:17 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Here they come boys! As thick as grass, and as black as thunder!)
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To: Sgt_Schultze
More curiously, why aren’t those same monkeys and apes evolving into lower forms of humans?

Why would they? Our closest related species, chimps and gorrillas, evolved to fit a different environmental niche than we did. They're not our ancestors, just a branch of the family tree that went in a different direction.

34 posted on 09/11/2008 10:21:18 AM PDT by Citizen Blade (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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To: Citizen Blade
that common ancestor is extinct

Nonsense. It was found and frozen in Georgia a few weeks back. I read it on the web. Also, one also drove the bus (until he was wounded) in the movie Speed.

35 posted on 09/11/2008 10:22:13 AM PDT by edpc (Head On!!! Apply directly to Begala)
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That’s a rhetorical question, right? I mean, it’s like asking if you are dumb enough to believe anal sex doesn’t transmit AIDS, or dumb enough to believe gold will reach $1650 this summer.


36 posted on 09/11/2008 10:22:47 AM PDT by js1138
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To: Sgt_Schultze
More curiously, why aren’t those same monkeys and apes evolving into lower forms of humans?

Case Of Backward Evolution: New Hope For Democrats

37 posted on 09/11/2008 10:25:07 AM PDT by Iron Munro (The Alaskan landscape is littered with the bodies of those who have crossed Sarah Palin)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Already on it, though it’s a shame that I’ll probably be on the road when this thread really gets interesting :(


38 posted on 09/11/2008 10:26:00 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Here they come boys! As thick as grass, and as black as thunder!)
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To: GodGunsGuts
I do understand the second law of thermodynamics. And I know a belief system when I see one.

There is one thing I don't understand though. That is the other force at work in the universe beside the four that we know of, i.e. that is the unmeasured, supernatural, invisible force which defies the second law of thermodynamics and creates order out of disorder.

Can some one help me with that with explanations that don't include words like "might", "may', "could have", "probably", etc.,etc.,etc.

39 posted on 09/11/2008 10:26:22 AM PDT by Banjoguy (Nancy Pelosi and the Democrat party are among the enemies of The Republic.)
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To: GodGunsGuts; xzins; enat
Astrobiologist David Deamer believes that life can spontaneously emerge without design, but he thinks lay people are too uneducated to understand how this is possible

I thought abiogenesis was not part of the "evolution" theology. That's what I've been told by all the Evos on this forum. Now here is a guy that says that anyone who doesn't understand how life can form spontaneously is an idiot.

Does that mean that all the EVOS on this forum are idiots just like us creationists?

40 posted on 09/11/2008 10:26:49 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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