Citizens win In Pomona - Check Points Continue (report and pics)

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[Ladycalif]

The audience was overwhelmingly in favor of checkpoints, although protesters did fill the lawn outside the Library.

The grant was accepted on a 6-1 vote, with Councilwoman Cristina Carrizosa opposed.

Kudos to the mayor for rising to the occasion. Just when she's getting the hang of leadership, she's leaving.

Carrizosa, for her part, said before the vote that she's fine with checkpoints but doesn't think Pomona's are being done appropriately.

Carrizosa, who earlier this year compared Pomona officers to the Gestapo, also insisted she has always been a friend of the Police Department.

At that comment, Chief Joe Romero, who was at the lectern, was apparently unable to keep a poker face.

[Ladycalif]

UPDATE...GOOD NEWS!

Mayor Norma Torres - Pomona, CA City Council WE WON - TRAFFIC CHECKPOINTS WILL GO FORWARD IN POMONA, CA!

Monday, September 8, 2008: POMONA CITY COUNCIL http://www.ci.pomona.ca.us/city_departments/city_council/ VOTED 6 to 1 TO RENEW THE POMONA TRAFFIC CHECKPOINT GRANT FOR 2008-2009!

Councilwoman Cristina Carrizosa aggressively opposes the traffic checkpoints in Pomona and she was the lone vote in opposition to the traffic checkpoint grant. She has perpetuated the traffic checkpoint controversy since a May 3, 2008 Pomona traffic checkpoint, which she called the "gestapo." She is aligned with Pomona Speaks.

Above Councilwoman Cristina Carrizosa - in a long speech where she frequently mumbled - adamantly opposed the grant for traffic checkpoints. She claims the traffic checkpoints profile the ethnic poor.

Candlelight Vigil: anti-traffic checkpoint crowd mourns the council vote...

The anti-traffic checkpoint crowd seemed to arrive late and police had them assemble in front of the library, rather than the city council chambers - where a near-riot went forward at the May 27, 2008 city council meeting.

They staged a candlelight vigil - with speakers addressing the crowd in Spanish. The mood was somber. They sang songs in Spanish, accompanied by guitars.

Above, Councilwoman Carrizosa - who partnered with Pomona Speaks - was hailed as a hero at the candlelight vigil. Spanish TV clamored to interview her. When I approached her to photograph her - she hollered at me to stop and put her hand over her face.

Lighting candles and singing in Spanish - mourning the vote to continue the Pomona traffic checkpoint grant

Above, center, Nativo Lopez, president of the Mexican American Political Association (MAPA)

Above, second from the left, founder of Pomona Speaks, Arturo Jimenez, who was the force alongside Councilwoman Carrizosa in the quest to stop the Pomona traffic checkpoint grant.

Attendees - speakers in Spanish denounced the city council vote

POLICE

There was a heavy police presence at the city council meeting. The Anti-checkpoint coalition, Pomona Speaks, is calling for an investigation into the Pomona Police Department.

Yesterday, Mayor Torres moved the time of the meeting from 7pm to 5pm. Many open border supporters arrived late. Police cordoned off the front of city council chambers and the open border group staged in front of the library rather than city hall. At a previous city council meeting, the anti-traffic checkpoint people caused a near riot, numbering in the hundreds.

Celebrating in the council chambers after the vote - at left, Councilman Atchley! This councilman supports traffic checkpoints in Pomona!

When the vote was tallied, we jumped to our feet and gave a standing ovation - applauding the vote! Jubilant!

It was a celebration!

PUBLIC SPEAKERS

We arrived early and got good seats! Above, Border Raven spoke out during public comments with suggestions on the areas to stage traffic checkpoints.

There were 27 public speakers. 19 supported the traffic checkpoints and 8 opposed the traffic checkpoints.

Those who spoke out against traffic checkpoints were open border leaders, such as Professor Jose Calderon of Pitzer College, an attorney, and the Pomona Speaks interpreter. They said the traffic checkpoints violate the 4th Amendment, and an attorney called those who support the checkpoints "racists."

Cheryl was the first speaker and addressed California State Laws!

Gloria stood up for law enforcement and the military - and requested that police escort us to our cars

Robin spoke out in support of the police

Emily spoke out and stated surrounding communities are affected by traffic patterns in Pomona

Cherie spoke out in support of the police and referenced a traffic checkpoint in Corona where drivers were apprehended in stolen vehicles

Dee gave a great talk in support of checkpoints and law enforcement

There is an ad hoc committee, headed up by Councilwoman Carrizosa, which is reviewing the May 3, 2008 police traffic checkpoint. There have been two committee meetings. Carrizosa attempted to give a report, but it was incomprehensible. Mayor Torres told Carrizosa that the committee must come to a conclusion and advise the city council by the end of the year.

On August 21, 2008, at a meeting staged by Pomona Speaks, Pomona Speaks has called for off 8 duty officers to be investigated. Mayor Torres agreed to an investigation of the off duty officers.

[Ladycalif]

good news report

[perfect_rovian_storm]

As someone who doesn’t reside in Pomona, I’m afraid I don’t understand why you would be advocating for traffic checkpoints. Why do the citizens want them? They’ve always seemed like an annoyance coupled with a trampling of my God given rights by the nanny state. Do Pomona checkpoints differ somehow from other places?

[Squantos]

Well cool !

Does that seditious council woman know that the “ethnic poor” can’t afford to drive or own a car if they are “ethnic poor” ?..........:o)

Good on ya’ll for taking a stand !

Stay safe !

[ltc8k6]

Yeah, someone misspelled “lose”...

[Natchez Hawk]

Citizens win by having the police treat them like children?

[Regulator]

Let's see...Mayor Torres, Chief Romero, CouncilNut Carrizosa....there's a pattern here...what is it? Just can't put my finger on it...

God Forbid I should ethnically profile

How the hell did these foreigners take over Pomona, for Christ's sake???

The pictures of the protestors are luvly...it's just like being in a small Mexican village somewhere deep in the mountains of Sinaloa....

[Regulator]

You really can't understand what has happened unless you go to Los Angeles, and go to the formerly ordinary suburban cities like Pomona.

They have become Mexican colonies, literally overrun by an invading army.

The Mexicans who have shoved their way into political power are scared crapless of things like checkpoints because it means that their colonizing force, the illegal aliens, will be apprehended in huge numbers, their cars impounded (California state law for now), and they will be on foot, and maybe out of the country!.

That's the last thing they want. They want more and more of their countrymen there to solidify the takeover.

You simply cannot picture this. There are 900,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles county ALONE, and that's a conservative estimate.

The most massive crime wave in history has submerged Los Angeles, and the legitimate population has been PUSHED OUT.

[m4629]

Gestapo it is. These road checkpoints are downright stupid. I don’t like them any more than those checkpoints at Costco, not a thief but sure feel like being treated like one. That sucks.

[Ladycalif]

They check for driver’s licenses - many,many illegal are driving without licenses.

[perfect_rovian_storm]

That definitely makes more sense. Thanks. I cant imagine what that must be like. Coupled with Arnold fouling everything up and people leaving CA because of that, there won’t be anyone left to fight...

[AmericanInTokyo]

For any liberals opposing this commons sense measure, on the ground it might terrrrrrrrify someone or hurrrrrrrrt someones feelings, I only have THIS to say:

[ruination]

I’m sorry to hear about your feelings. I wish them the best.

[wac3rd]

Pomona is effectively East LA. I would guess atleast 50% of the people there are illegal or anchor babies.

It has a college and used to look like Mayberry until about 1975 when white flight struck California and everyone either moved to OC or out to Palm Springs.

You have foreign agitatiors as elected officials like Villaragosa and Newsom...they need to be voted out!

[wac3rd]

But how is the food? Forget the gangs, drugs, poverty and 3rd World malaise...do they have good food there?

Arnold claims that illegals are not hurting California.

He needs to see the Valley or East LA and see if he recognizes America.

[tajgirvan]

Pomona is not the same city that my husband and I were married in and our oldest two children were born in. Very sad times!

[bcsco]

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[Red_Devil 232]

Are there still alfalfa fields in Pomona?

[BorderRaven]

Police will use various locations for checkpoints, along common arterial roads. A warrant is not needed to look at your vehicle, or to see you and your passengers. A warrant is not required to observe behaviors, or actions. Police may stop a vehicle, at fixed-checkpoints, to question the driver and occupants, to detect criminal activity, unlicensed drivers, expired insurance, and alcohol or drug abuse. Police and other community representatives, may dispense information literature, in multiple lanuages.
Fixed police checkpoints generate demographic data. A freedom of Information request may be needed to access the data, but cities usually provide it anyway. Driving is a privilege, there is no expectation of privacy, regarding what is freely observable to the public. The reduced expectancy concept has broadened police powers to conduct automobile searches without warrants, but they still must have probable cause to search a vehicle and they may not make random stops of vehicles on the roads, but instead must base stops of individual vehicles on probable cause or some ‘’articulable and reasonable suspicion’’

[stevio]

Amazing what we are allowing because of what we have allowed to happen. We are fast becoming a police state. I understand their point, but if the immigration laws were enforced from the start this wouldn’t be happening.