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To: Ladycalif

As someone who doesn’t reside in Pomona, I’m afraid I don’t understand why you would be advocating for traffic checkpoints. Why do the citizens want them? They’ve always seemed like an annoyance coupled with a trampling of my God given rights by the nanny state. Do Pomona checkpoints differ somehow from other places?


3 posted on 09/09/2008 8:38:53 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (Palin 2008 (oh yeah, and McCain too))
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

Yeah, someone misspelled “lose”...


5 posted on 09/09/2008 8:41:24 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: perfect_rovian_storm
You really can't understand what has happened unless you go to Los Angeles, and go to the formerly ordinary suburban cities like Pomona.

They have become Mexican colonies, literally overrun by an invading army.

The Mexicans who have shoved their way into political power are scared crapless of things like checkpoints because it means that their colonizing force, the illegal aliens, will be apprehended in huge numbers, their cars impounded (California state law for now), and they will be on foot, and maybe out of the country!.

That's the last thing they want. They want more and more of their countrymen there to solidify the takeover.

You simply cannot picture this. There are 900,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles county ALONE, and that's a conservative estimate.

The most massive crime wave in history has submerged Los Angeles, and the legitimate population has been PUSHED OUT.

8 posted on 09/09/2008 8:50:43 PM PDT by Regulator (Obama = Mugabe)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

They check for driver’s licenses - many,many illegal are driving without licenses.


10 posted on 09/09/2008 8:54:21 PM PDT by Ladycalif (Free - Ramos and Compean)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

Police will use various locations for checkpoints, along common arterial roads. A warrant is not needed to look at your vehicle, or to see you and your passengers. A warrant is not required to observe behaviors, or actions. Police may stop a vehicle, at fixed-checkpoints, to question the driver and occupants, to detect criminal activity, unlicensed drivers, expired insurance, and alcohol or drug abuse. Police and other community representatives, may dispense information literature, in multiple lanuages.
Fixed police checkpoints generate demographic data. A freedom of Information request may be needed to access the data, but cities usually provide it anyway. Driving is a privilege, there is no expectation of privacy, regarding what is freely observable to the public. The reduced expectancy concept has broadened police powers to conduct automobile searches without warrants, but they still must have probable cause to search a vehicle and they may not make random stops of vehicles on the roads, but instead must base stops of individual vehicles on probable cause or some ‘’articulable and reasonable suspicion’’


19 posted on 09/10/2008 6:09:05 AM PDT by BorderRaven
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

Well, I guess they didn’t have room to explicitly say so in that massive screed, that epic saga, but I sort of gather that the checkpoints are to detect illegals and that’s why they’re popular (and why a Freeper would be in favor). I think I may finally have found a cause sufficient for cops to erect a checkpoint!


22 posted on 09/10/2008 4:05:13 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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