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John McCain and Barack Obama - Can Either Even Be President?
Liberty Maven ^ | September 2, 2008 | by Jake, the Champion of the Constitution

Posted on 09/02/2008 1:42:22 AM PDT by Kevmo

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To: Salamander

Are they getting their campaign strategies from Seinfeld reruns?
***I hope so.


21 posted on 09/02/2008 3:43:58 AM PDT by Kevmo (Obama Birth Certificate is a Forgery. http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/certifigate/index?tab=articles)
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To: Uncle Ike

The answer is NO! B. Hussein’s association with Rev. Wright should have kept him from being a senator, and John Sidney McCain is loony tunes. He and the anorexic Cindy remind me of feeble and gray haired Boris and Natasha.


22 posted on 09/02/2008 3:48:08 AM PDT by apocalypto
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To: Kevmo

Fine.

Henceforth, I shall call BoBo “T Bone” with all the mockery and ridicule implied and contained, therein.

[but if he swings his leg over a Harley, surely I shall go mad]


23 posted on 09/02/2008 3:50:06 AM PDT by Salamander (McCain/Palin 2008....Plenty of brass to go around.)
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To: apocalypto

Better to be ruled by a crazy patriot than a sane Marxist.


24 posted on 09/02/2008 3:51:20 AM PDT by Salamander (McCain/Palin 2008....Plenty of brass to go around.)
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To: Kevmo; null and void

There is a freeper here from Panama. Null and void, would you be able to ping him/her?

Part of the confussion is McCain was not born on a military base. He was born in Colon and it was not US territory.


25 posted on 09/02/2008 4:13:54 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Kevmo; markomalley; MeekOneGOP

Obama is on his own. I like having our chew toy, but if we lose it, we lose it. Maybe the rats could have a write-in campaign. [Shrug]

As for John McCain:

markomalley put to rest [a quote of his earlier post]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2065437/posts?page=52#52

8 U.S.C. § 1403. Persons born in the Canal Zone or Republic of Panama on or after February 26, 1904

(a) Any person born in the Canal Zone on or after February 26, 1904, and whether before or after the effective date of this chapter, whose father or mother or both at the time of the birth of such person was or is a citizen of the United States, is declared to be a citizen of the United States.

(b) Any person born in the Republic of Panama on or after February 26, 1904, and whether before or after the effective date of this chapter, whose father or mother or both at the time of the birth of such person was or is a citizen of the United States employed by the Government of the United States or by the Panama Railroad Company, or its successor in title, is declared to be a citizen of the United States.

Please note subparagraph b.

[end of quote]

The only way McCain could lose over this is through rogue ‘supreme’ court justices in the tradition of Kelo. It is a possibility. But if any rat won through such a vile method, there would be hell to pay — the lamest duck in US history, a supreme court will record low approval, and a military that would be tempted to wage a coup.


26 posted on 09/02/2008 4:39:49 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Palin 2016! Palin 2016! Palin 2016! Palin 2016! Palin 2016! Palin 2016! Palin 2016!)
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To: Calpernia

Note post 26, subparagraph b.


27 posted on 09/02/2008 4:43:33 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Palin 2016! Palin 2016! Palin 2016! Palin 2016! Palin 2016! Palin 2016! Palin 2016!)
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To: Kevmo

Spot on analysis


28 posted on 09/02/2008 4:50:04 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Kevmo

Please refrain from abusing the Activism sidebar.


29 posted on 09/02/2008 5:36:31 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Salamander

“BoBo the Simp is not a barracuda.
A lamprey, leech or a hagfish, yes but he is NO barracuda.”

LOL—thanks, I needed that. :)


30 posted on 09/02/2008 6:05:33 AM PDT by VigilantAmerican (We will not waver, we will not tire; we will not falter, we will not fail)
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To: apocalypto

ROTF “Boris and Natasha”

This is getting good...absurdity of the POTUS-arama bringing out the sillies...


31 posted on 09/02/2008 6:07:10 AM PDT by VigilantAmerican (We will not waver, we will not tire; we will not falter, we will not fail)
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To: VigilantAmerican

My pleasure....:)


32 posted on 09/02/2008 6:14:34 AM PDT by Salamander (McCain/Palin 2008....Plenty of brass to go around.)
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To: Kevmo

Thanks for posting an excellent write-up of the entire fuster-cluck.

The author points out that his belief is even though both are technically ineligible, neither will be prevented by it from being elected and serving, whoever wins.

I tend to think he is correct, but I believe Obama is far MORE than merely technically ineligible.

Check it out: Obama has been subtly telegraphing all along that his ineligibility is based not only on murky birth circumstances and overseas trips/residency/adoption/documentation/oaths, etc...

Obama has been rather openly showing us his “tells” from day one about where his LOYALTIES really are.

Indonesia and Kenya are exotic locales about as far removed from American values and soil and spirit and interests as you can get. Obama’s ties to those places, and in general to the Third World(hell, to any country other than the U.S. for that matter) can be read easily in his words and actions!!

He declares himself a “citizen of the world” while in Germany before a crowd of hundreds of thousands of foreigners, and proceeds to badmouth America there. He badmouths America everywhere he goes, for that matter! He won’t wear a flag pin until his back is to the wall, and he’s on video failing to put his hand over his heart during the National Anthem... Do I have to go on? Is there any question now? There’s more. His wife. His chosen church and pastor. His collaborators over the years, Ayers, Achmed so-and-so, geez...too much to keep typing about.

If there’s ever been a Presidential candidate whose technical ineligibility and OVERT behavior as regards his allegiance to America is to be disputed and refuted, it’s Obama. His divided loyalties should be entered into the record based not only on paper trails and travels and technicalities, but moreover on his contemptuous conduct toward his country, and his fondness for exotic foreign homesteads and interests, including those of our enemies.

The Constitution is pretty clear on the divided loyalty linchpin. Obama is ineligible by documentation AND demonstration.

McCain is simply too legit to quit—Hanoi holds no homefire for him. His heart is here.

Indonesia and Kenya still call out to Hussein.


33 posted on 09/02/2008 6:33:14 AM PDT by VigilantAmerican (We will not waver, we will not tire; we will not falter, we will not fail)
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To: Kevmo

Besides, the “authorities” would rather have an ineligible POTUS in office than every major “inner-city” in the country on fire with thousands of overturned police cars, etc.


34 posted on 09/02/2008 6:41:27 AM PDT by VigilantAmerican (We will not waver, we will not tire; we will not falter, we will not fail)
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To: LibLieSlayer

But McCain wasn’t born in the Canal Zone.


35 posted on 09/02/2008 7:12:28 AM PDT by null and void (Obama/Biden: It's a no-brainer)
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To: dirtbiker

McCain wasn’t born on a military base.


36 posted on 09/02/2008 7:14:06 AM PDT by null and void (Obama/Biden: It's a no-brainer)
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To: Kevmo
***Maybe that should be “me-tooting”.

Heck yeah!

37 posted on 09/02/2008 7:15:21 AM PDT by null and void (Obama/Biden: It's a no-brainer)
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To: Calpernia; Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
There is a freeper here from Panama. Null and void, would you be able to ping him/her?

Certainly!

Part of the confussion is McCain was not born on a military base. He was born in Colon and it was not US territory.

Yep.

Place of birth?

Colón PANAMA

Colón, PANAMA, not Colón Canal Zone. PANAMA

Colón isn't part of the Canal Zone.

It is a separate district and provence, a district and provence of the country of Panama.

Much like West Berlin never belonged to East Germany.

38 posted on 09/02/2008 7:19:44 AM PDT by null and void (Obama/Biden: It's a no-brainer)
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To: null and void; Calpernia

Good morning you fine folks!

I’m right here.


39 posted on 09/02/2008 7:30:48 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

Buenas tardes...


40 posted on 09/02/2008 7:35:18 AM PDT by null and void (Sarah Palin might be more conservative than even John McCain ~ Megyn Kelly, Fox News 9/2/08)
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