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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 31 August 2008
Various driveby media television networks ^ | 31 August 2008 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 08/31/2008 5:14:17 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

The Talk Shows



Sunday, August 31th, 2008

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): John McCain; Mike Miller, director of operations for the Republican National Convention.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Gov. Tim Pawlenty, R-Minn., and Doris Kearns Goodwin, presidential historian.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani, R-N.Y.; Sen. Joe Lieberman, I-Conn.; Carly Fiorina, adviser to the McCain campaign.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Cindy McCain, wife of Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain; Sens. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., and John Kerry, D-Mass.

LATE EDITION (CNN) : Govs. Charlie Crist, R-Fla., Mark Sanford, R-S.C., and Tim Pawlenty, R-Minn.; former Sens. Fred Thompson, R-Tenn., and Tom Daschle, D-S.D.; Reps. John Boehner, R-Ohio, and Eric Cantor, R-Va.; Nancy Pfotenhauer, adviser to McCain; Sen. Christopher Dodd, D-Conn.; R. David Paulison, administrator of the Federal Emergency Management Agency.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2008dncconvention; 2008rncconvention; 2008veep; biden; guests; gustav; lineup; mccain; news; obama; palin; sunday; talkshows
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To: rabscuttle385; Hi Heels

Yes, I’m just a college student

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OK .. I get it now.

Thanks, hiheels .. didn’t see it earlier.
Clears up a lot of my confusion and bewilderment.


1,101 posted on 08/31/2008 6:11:36 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: Morgan in Denver

McCain/Palin today with Huckabee and Romney,

apparently can be viewed at this link

http://www.c-spanarchives.org/library/index.php?main_page=product_video_info&products_id=280825-1


1,102 posted on 08/31/2008 6:12:38 PM PDT by maica (Peace is the Aftermath of Victory)
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To: Spunky

Thank you, Spunky. You’re right, that’s an excellent video.


1,103 posted on 08/31/2008 6:13:17 PM PDT by Sal (Pyrrhic Pooty just took Russia down to a 3rd class, 3rd world POS country that is dying.)
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To: AFPhys
For the record, Miss Marple was not the ONLY person on the Katrina threads who loudly and repeatedly said the same thing.

I know; I just can't remember who all did. I know I did and now I know you did, and once I posted that I said it way back then and MM reminded that she had too, so I always mention her. Now I'll make sure you're in there too and my apologizies to everybody else who did as well.

1,104 posted on 08/31/2008 6:20:03 PM PDT by Sal (Pyrrhic Pooty just took Russia down to a 3rd class, 3rd world POS country that is dying.)
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To: Sal

wow! 1,100 plus posts today!

And yes, I remember you all on those Katrina threads. We saw it happening before our eyes, as Shep cried on that bridge.


1,105 posted on 08/31/2008 6:23:16 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: maica

yes that one was a shocker to me.

Huckabe AND Romney AND McCain on one stage?!

What do the insiders know that we don’t know? There has to be some internals screaming some kind of profit in unity.


1,106 posted on 08/31/2008 6:24:57 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Alas Babylon!
But after the election, should McCain/Palin win, I will fight any and all socialistic policies coming from a McCain White House with as much vigor as I would an Obama policy. I wish it wasn’t this way. Us patriots (and I mean ALL of us here on this thread today) never get any rest.

We have to do it. There's just no choice. At least the future path is lit.

1,107 posted on 08/31/2008 6:26:34 PM PDT by Sal (Pyrrhic Pooty just took Russia down to a 3rd class, 3rd world POS country that is dying.)
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To: Fudd Fan

Blank.....oh. It made me laugh too.


1,108 posted on 08/31/2008 6:27:41 PM PDT by Sal (Pyrrhic Pooty just took Russia down to a 3rd class, 3rd world POS country that is dying.)
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To: calcowgirl

Nothing personal about it, just asking questions.

Pray for W, Mav/Palin and Our Troops


1,109 posted on 08/31/2008 6:27:58 PM PDT by bray (Drill Congress!!)
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To: bray; calcowgirl; AmericanInTokyo; roamer_1; Morgan in Denver; Alas Babylon!
No you said “yes”, why don’t we get out of Iraq.

To quote my exact words:

Yes, but if we've won, then it's time to get out.

That's two clauses. I answered yes to your question "You are glad we have won aren’t you??" (post 951). And then, I said: "but if we've won, then it's time to get out." This means that, since we have accomplished our objective of winning, there is very little other reason to stay in Iraq.

Unless...

Have we lost in Germany and Korea? Wouldn’t it be smarter to have a presence in that area?

We won WWII (Germany). Korea was a stalemate, last I checked.

Americans pushed so hard to get the British from maintaining a "presence" (standing armies) on their sovereign territory, post-Revolution, that it's just wrong to impose such a thing on other countries (unless the real goal is to subtly push the notion that "do what we say, or we will effect regime change"). What if the British had maintained a "presence" here after the War of 1812, or various European powers actually interfered (by sending standing armies) with our Civil War?

So, no, I do not want to have "presences" (standing armies with bases) all over the world (i.e. occupying countries). That's a thing that empires do, not republics like ours.

Where else is that the definition of victory??

I never implied that leaving Iraq had anything to do with defining victory. I did say, however, that if we have won, we should leave. It follows that we would be allowing the Iraqis to chart their own course among the nations.

Let us know how glad you are that we went into Iraq and took out that dictator to give freedom to 25 million people.

What has been accomplished is undeniably a good thing, but we must be extremely careful not to lapse into the reasoning that "the ends justify the means." That line can be used to justify all sorts of nefarious ends.

How did you like his answers at Saddleback where Black Oblack made a complete fool of himself?

Believe it or not, but sometimes, I do have other things to do, and I passed on the Saddleback extravaganza.

What do you think of abortion?

Abortion is generally considered as murder.

When does life begin and is abortion murder?

Legally, the individual is recognized at birth. "Life" (the individual) biologically begins at conception, but the exact date and time is hard to track for legal purposes.

What does abortion do to the woman who has an abortion?

All sorts of nasty things. But, I wouldn't know exactly, since I am not a woman.

Are you glad Palin kept her Downs baby?

Yes. But that was still her decision to make.

Come on mr conservative, lets talk issues.

Yes, let's.

Do you favor amnesty for tens of millions of illegals? Do you favor giving up a portion of your paycheck to bail out executives with multi-million dollar salaries at Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, General Motors, and other private enterprises? Do you believe that your children should pay for the trillions of dollars in current U.S. liabilities, including off-balance sheet items? And do you believe in "living wages" or implementing mandatory energy rationing (carbon cap-and-trade)? What about subjugating ourself to the United Nations? or the World Court?

Do you like Clarence Thomas?

Yes.

Your hatred of the military comes through with your complete disrespect of McCain’s service.

And by disrespect, you mean that I dared to question him, since he's so special because he's a POW, right? John McCain's years as a POW are commendable, but what happened after he returned to the U.S. and during his time as a civilian (including his U.S. Senate legislative record) are despicable to say the least.

Oh, and let me ask you this: John Kerry also served in Vietnam. By your logic, we also must show him the same respect and not question him at all, lest we be hypocrites.

The majority of folks in the armed forces are good, honest Americans...but, like the rest of our nation, not everyone in there is that way.

When you spend 5 years tortured nearly to death and offered freedom only to deny it, then you can disregard his service.

So you're saying that I can't question him unless I've been through his exact experiences? Gosh. Then, he's basically untouchable, unquestionable, and unaccountable for any of his actions in the recent past and on into the future, since most of the U.S. population has never been held as a POW in North Vietnam.

Until then you can thank God every day he and people like him gave you your right to hate the military.

Who said that I hate the military?

Oh, you did.

My bad. I love the military. I have friends in the military. The simple existence of our armed forces scares the crap out of most potential enemies around the world and allows the rest of us to sleep soundly at night, go to school, and commute to work.

By the way, why is it that the only people I know who overdo it on the word "hate" are liberals?

They may think your not a plant, but your attitude says just the opposite. You can’t fake patriotism mr “Conservative”.

Blind patriotism (allegiance) to anything is dangerous and foolhardy.

Side note for Alas Babylon! and Morgan in Denver: I have tried to keep this post civil and to debate issues at hand. If you two have any issues with the content of this post, let me know.

1,110 posted on 08/31/2008 6:31:20 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Life's uncertain. Eat dessert first.)
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To: longtermmemmory

That we have to keep Obama and his “handlers” away from 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue at all costs, so in unity there is strength?

Or that Rs just generally have more class than D pols?

Or that Sarah is so hot, Huckabee and Romney couldn’t help themselves?


1,111 posted on 08/31/2008 6:31:56 PM PDT by maica (Peace is the Aftermath of Victory)
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To: STARWISE

BWAAAAHAAAAAAHAAAAAAAA!!!!

Couldn’t have happened to a more deserving fellow!

~~snicker~~


1,112 posted on 08/31/2008 6:35:23 PM PDT by luvie (McCain/PALIN--this is the start of something BIG for Republican hopes and prayers!)
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To: bray
Nothing personal about it, just asking questions.

Saying someone has a "hatred of the military" because they don't embrace John McCain is not "asking a question." It is a personal attack and it is over the top, IMO.

1,113 posted on 08/31/2008 6:38:19 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: bray; calcowgirl; AmericanInTokyo; SoConPubbie; 383rr; BufordP; roamer_1
Nothing personal about it, just asking questions.

Horse hockey.

By libeling me with your false accusations that I am a DNC plant and that I work for Obama's campaign, you made it personal.

But that's okay, because I forgive you, and I have better things to do than screw around with you all day. However, I will respond to your earlier post.

Cat got your tongue?

Be patient. I was typing my reply.

You dare to compare McCain to Benedict Arnold??

YES.

I don't care how much of a hero you are; if you then turn around and try to sell out (betray) your country by sponsoring such legislation as amnesty for illegal alien law-breakers, you are a traitor in my books.

Offering enticements (citizenship, government benefits, legal status, voting rights, and so forth) to foreign nationals who have broken our laws is just wrong, especially after you have sworn an oath to defend and protect the Constitution and the laws of the United States, something I'm sure that McCain did when he joined the Naval Academy and when he entered Congress. You do not swear to protect and defend the Constitution and the laws and then turn around and entice people to break them.

If any of us had done that, we would be considered as aiding and abetting others' violations of the law.

In one word, due to the aforementioned behavior, and due to his willful betrayal of his oaths of office, yes, McCain is a traitor.

So please, spare me the lecture that McCain is somehow special, privileged, and exempt from criticism simply because he was a POW.

1,114 posted on 08/31/2008 6:40:22 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Life's uncertain. Eat dessert first.)
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To: Morgan in Denver

“Also, by implication, might explain where some of the Biden money came from.”

What I’D like to know is where Plugs’ and his wife’s money came from. I recently heard that they’re wealthier than has been explained from either of their jobs, as well as real estate holdings they have that sound interesting.

Anyone?


1,115 posted on 08/31/2008 6:40:44 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: Sunnyflorida; 6323cd; catfish1957; roamer_1; AmericanInTokyo; 383rr; djsherin; GunsareOK; ...
Ping to post 1,113.
1,116 posted on 08/31/2008 6:43:24 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Life's uncertain. Eat dessert first.)
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To: maica; rodguy911

Ping to the cspan video .. ;) Getting rain there?


1,117 posted on 08/31/2008 6:47:37 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: bray; All

CSPAN is running McCain/Palin Campaign stop today in O’Fallen Missouri


1,118 posted on 08/31/2008 6:48:41 PM PDT by Son House ( [ ]Obama=>LoseBothWars/Raise Taxes [X]McCain=>WinBothWars/CutPorkBarrelSpending)
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To: rabscuttle385
Sometimes people only hear what they want to hear and cannot engage in rational discussion.

You explained your self very clearly to that Freeper. I saw nothing contradictory, nor backtracking in your clarifications. In fact, I quite agree with many of the things you say.

1,119 posted on 08/31/2008 6:49:14 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Writing in "PALIN FOR PRESIDENT 2008!!!" You Go Girl. That RINO McCain gets nowhere near my vote)
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To: rabscuttle385
Some people have all the "He was a POW so that makes him just a supreme hero in my book!"

I can see that viewpoint and logic, particularly coming from doctrinaire Republican operatives and RINO appeasers.

Question: So how many of them cast their vote for POW HERO Cdr. James Stockdale for Vice President of the United States in 1992?

They could not STAND the guy, because he went against their mainstream RINO choice that year, as a TRUE MAVERICK. So I call this hypocrisy.

1,120 posted on 08/31/2008 6:53:43 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Writing in "PALIN FOR PRESIDENT 2008!!!" You Go Girl. That RINO McCain gets nowhere near my vote)
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