Posted on 08/24/2008 2:16:12 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
...In February, the Florida Department of Education modified its standards to explicitly require, for the first time, the state’s public schools to teach evolution, calling it “the organizing principle of life science.” Spurred in part by legal rulings against school districts seeking to favor religious versions of natural history, over a dozen other states have also given more emphasis in recent years to what has long been the scientific consensus: that all of the diverse life forms on Earth descended from a common ancestor, through a process of mutation and natural selection, over billions of years.
But in a nation where evangelical Protestantism and other religious traditions stress a literal reading of the biblical description of God’s individually creating each species, students often arrive at school fearing that evolution, and perhaps science itself, is hostile to their faith.
Some come armed with “Ten questions to ask your biology teacher about evolution,” a document circulated on the Internet that highlights supposed weaknesses in evolutionary theory. Others scrawl their opposition on homework assignments. Many just tune out.
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forcing of a model - "hey, THIS must be a transitional form, because my model says transitional forms must exist!"
extravagent extrapolation - "because we can breed a poodle from a wolf ancestor, we can get a man from an amoeba"
More likely retread.
Titus 3:10
Warn a divisive person once, and then warn him a second time. After that, have nothing to do with him.
Why should I pay to teach MY children YOUR religion?
Someone on the outside of the church doesn’t recognize that there are differences in traditions and the denominations derived from those traditions.
We who recognize the existance of absolute truth disdain the liberal tradition of “to who it may concern”.
Interesting that the evos can justify using force to back their position and yet claim that non-evos making comments about using the same procedure are accused of advocating physical violence and breaking the FR rules.
And I’ll bet they’re spamming the abuse button, too.
Seriously, I put these guys in the same classification as leftists, communists, and Islamists.
They are doing Satan’s handiwork. And all using the same tactics.
Evolution is science. It is not religion. It is the same science behind the computer you are using, the car you drive, and the medicine you take. Calling it religion is as wrong as it is childish.
To recapitulate: It is easy to criticize video-game-era kids for being slow on the uptake. That is why they need to be made to memorize structures and solve equations. My comment was thus about instructional goals and methods: it is easy to provide vivid and even memorable images but considerably harder to inculcate solid knowledge that can't be dislodged by the post hoc rationalizations of the doctrinaire.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A RELIGION!!!!
did you have your hands over your ears and stamp your feet while typing that?
Hypocrites that they are, they don't have a problem abusing and misusing the judiciary to force their viewpoint on everyone else's kids.
Funny how every time parents speak through the voting process and want to allow for creation/ID to be taught along with evolution in the education of their children paid for by their tax dollars, the god hating element files a lawsuit faster than you can say "atheist".
They scream about teaching religion in school and yet don't have a problem teaching THEIR religion.
They claim that they want to teach kids to think but then engage in thought control.
Why not just have the simple solution of having their kids opt out of the creation/ID section of the class instead of wasting taxpayer dollars filing lawsuits to force their belief system on others? Their kids can spend the time in the library (playing computer games likely as not) and don't have to hear it. That option is given in other subject areas where the parents object to course curriculum. It could work here and save the taxpayers plenty of money.
Learning is a talent that many simply do not have. You are obviously correct in that a strong foundation of knowledge is innoculation against foolishness later in life.
If you collect enough facts in life, you build reference points that can be used to qualify new facts when you encounter them. Unfortunately, most people collect opinions and falsehoods along the way and consider them true because they rely on faith in authority as their epistimological methodology. It is true because a person or institution says it is true. They build their beliefs upon the sands of faith rather than the rock of science.
Religion is based on faith. The theory of evolution is firmly founded in science and based on empirical evidence.
did you have your hands over your ears and stamp your feet while typing that?
Had to have.
The faith that some put in the scientific method, a method devised by man, to lead them to truth when they claim that science isn't about truth anyway, certainly puts it on the level like that of religious faith. Isn't that what they say faith is? Believing in something that you know isn't true?
If science isn't about truth, there's only one other thing that it could be about....
Why should anyone in their right minds want to put their confidence in something they know is not true? And then they want to force it on unwilling participants (kids in school) and they wonder why people object.
Totally clueless.....
Which part of the evocatechism is that?
Extravagent extrapolation and forcing a presupposed conclusion on the evidence is not "science".
Thanks for the ping!
And their goals are all the same.
No, that would be "Intelligent Design".
No, that would be "Intelligent Design".
Colonel George Armstrong Custer's last words.
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