Note how gray Obama was when he was with Rick Warren at Saddleback Church.
Posted on 08/23/2008 11:44:35 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3
Springfield, Illinois We just arrived at the state capitol. We’re told Biden is en route and on the plane Obama spokeswoman Linda Douglass told us that Obama called Biden Thursday night to offer him the job
It is literally 90 degrees warmer than it was on February 10, 2007. The lectern’s all set up with the new Obama/Biden logo. Obama's plane wasn’t changed – the tip that broke Kerry's choice of Edwards in 2004 -- it simply reads “Change We Can Believe In; www.barackobama.com"). A significantly smaller crowd has turned up for this event than the 17,000 for Obama’s presidential roll out....
http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2008/08/dispatches_from_springfield_i.html
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I live in Arkansas and said the same thing about BOTH of the Clintons. I would NEVER vote for either of them and never did!
“God help us if we end up with a Republican,” Jill Biden said.
That certainly sounds like the wife of a ‘uniter’ doesn’t it? /s
Ashley Biden said if her dad comes out of Iowa in third or fourth, then he can win the nomination.
She also mentioned her dad’s plan to federalize Iraq, which was approved by the Senate by a 75-to-23 vote in September. The plan involves partitioning Iraq into three regions with a weaker central government. The plan is patterned after the plan used in the Balkans during the 1990s.
Jill Biden on Hillary Clinton:
“The candidate is sitting in a car in a parking lot in Des Moines on Wednesday evening, doing one last interview before heading out to press the flesh with caucusgoers. His wife, Jill, is in the front seat.
The pundits, “they think I’m not calculating,” too blunt, Biden says.
“I would hope that Joe would never be a politician like Hillary Clinton,” Jill interjects softly.
“Oh, c’mon now,” Biden says. “Stop that.”
“He thinks with his head and his heart,” she says.
lol
Yes..I knew about Biden’s Balkanization plan for Iraq. The Iraqi’s said it would have been disasterous for the country had they followed it.
So much for The Biden Plan.
Osama Bin Laden -— likes -— Obama Biden
Biden, on a post-debate appearance on MSNBC, October 30, 2007: “The only guy on the other side who’s qualified is John McCain.”
Biden appearing on The Daily Show, August 2, 2005: “John McCain is a personal friend, a great friend, and I would be honored to run with or against John McCain, because I think the country would be better off, be well off no matter who...”
On Meet the Press, November 27, 2005: “I’ve been calling for more troops for over two years, along with John McCain and others subsequent to my saying that.”
On Obama:
Reacting to an Obama speech on counterterrorism, August 1, 2007: “‘Look, the truth is the four major things he called for, well, hell that’s what I called for,’ Biden said today on MSNBC’s Hardball, echoing comments he made earlier in the day at an event promoting his book at the National Press Club. Biden added, ‘I’m glad he’s talking about these things.’”
Also that day, the Biden campaign issued a release that began, “The Biden for President Campaign today congratulated Sen. Barack Obama for arriving at a number of Sen. Biden’s long-held views on combating al Qaeda in Afghanistan and Pakistan.” That release mocked Obama for asking about the “stunning level of mercury in fish” and asked about a proposal for the U.S. adopt a ban on mercury sales abroad at a Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing.
Assessing Obama’s Iraq plan on September 13, 2007: “My impression is [Obama] thinks that if we leave, somehow the Iraqis are going to have an epiphany” of peaceful coexistence among warring sects. “I’ve seen zero evidence of that.”
Speaking to the New York Observer: Biden was equally skeptical — albeit in a slightly more backhanded way — about Mr. Obama. “I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy,” he said. “I mean, that’s a storybook, man.”
Also from that Observer interview: “But — and the ‘but’ was clearly inevitable — he doubts whether American voters are going to elect ‘a one-term, a guy who has served for four years in the Senate,’ and added: ‘I don’t recall hearing a word from Barack about a plan or a tactic.’”
Around that time, Biden in an interview with the Huffington Post, he assessed Obama and Hillary Clinton: “The more people learn about them (Obama and Hillary) and how they handle the pressure, the more their support will evaporate.”
December 11, 2007: “If Iowans believe campaign funds and celebrity will fix the debacle in Iraq, put the economy on track, and provide health care and education for America’s children, they should support another candidate,” said Biden for President Campaign Manager Luis Navarro. “But I’m confident that Iowans know what I know: our problems will require experience and leadership from Day One. Empty slogans will be no match for proven action on caucus night.”
Also that night, Biden said in a campaign ad, “When this campaign is over, political slogans like ‘experience’ and ‘change’ will mean absolutely nothing. The next president has to act.”
September 26, 2007: Biden for President Campaign Manager Luis Navarro said, “Sen. Obama said he would do everything possible to end the war in Iraq and emphasized the need for a political solution yet he failed to show up to vote for Sen. Biden’s critical amendment to provide a political solution in Iraq.
December 26, 2006: “Frankly, I think I’m more qualified than other candidates, and the issues facing the American public are all in my wheelbarrow.”
On Iraq:
Biden on Meet the Press in 2002, discussing Saddam Hussein: “He’s a long term threat and a short term threat to our national security… “We have no choice but to eliminate the threat. This is a guy who is an extreme danger to the world.”
Biden on Meet the Press in 2002: “Saddam must be dislodged from his weapons or dislodged from power.”
Biden on Meet the Press in 2007, on Hussein’s WMDs: “Well, the point is, it turned out they didn’t, but everyone in the world thought he had them. The weapons inspectors said he had them. He catalogued — they catalogued them. This was not some, some Cheney, you know, pipe dream. This was, in fact, catalogued.”
Biden, on Obama’s Iraq plan in August 2007: “I don’t want [my son] going [to Iraq],” Delaware Sen. Joe Biden said from the campaign trail Wednesday, according to a report on Radio Iowa. “But I tell you what, I don’t want my grandson or my granddaughters going back in 15 years and so how we leave makes a big difference.” Biden criticized Democratic rivals such as Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama who have voted against Iraq funding bills to try to pressure President Bush to end the war. “There’s no political point worth my son’s life,” Biden said, according to Radio Iowa. “There’s no political point worth anybody’s life out there. None.”
Biden on Meet the Press, April 29, 2007: “The threat [Saddam Hussein] presented was that, if Saddam was left unfettered, which I said during that period, for the next five years with sanctions lifted and billions of dollars into his coffers, then I believed he had the ability to acquire a tactical nuclear weapon — not by building it, by purchasing it. I also believed he was a threat in that he was — every single solitary U.N. resolution which he agreed to abide by, which was the equivalent of a peace agreement at the United Nations, after he got out of — after we kicked him out of Kuwait, he was violating. Now, the rules of the road either mean something or they don’t. The international community says “We’re going to enforce the sanctions we placed” or not. And what was the international community doing? The international community was weakening. They were pulling away.”
Biden to the Brookings Institution in 2005: “We can call it quits and withdraw from Iraq. I think that would be a gigantic mistake. Or we can set a deadline for pulling out, which I fear will only encourage our enemies to wait us out — equally a mistake.”
Analyzing the surge on Meet the Press, September 9, 2007: “I mean, the truth of the matter is that, that the — America’s — this administration’s policy and the surge are a failure, and that the surge, which was supposed to stop sectarian violence and — long enough to give political reconciliation, there’s been no political reconciliation... The reality is that, although there has been some mild progress on the security front, there is, in fact, no, no real security in Baghdad and/or in Anbar province, where I was, dealing with the most serious problem, sectarian violence. Sectarian violence is as strong and as solid and as serious a problem as it was before the surge started.”
Biden in October of 2002: “We must be clear with the American people that we are committing to Iraq for the long haul; not just the day after, but the decade after.”
On Meet the Press, January 7, 2007, assessing the proposal of a surge of troops to Iraq: “If he surges another 20, 30, or whatever number he’s going to, into Baghdad, it’ll be a tragic mistake, in my view, but, as a practical matter, there’s no way to say, ‘Mr. President, stop.’”
On Meet the Press, November 27, 2005: “Unless we fundamentally change the rotation dates and fundamentally change how many members of the National Guard we’re calling up, it’ll be virtually impossible to maintain 150,000 folks this year.” (The number of troops in Iraq peaked at 162,000 in August 2007, during the surge.)
Having said all that: “There’s something decent at the core of Joe Biden.” — Jim Geraghty, December 13, 2007
— Jim Geraghty writes the “Campaign Spot” blog for NRO.
Biden Right After 9/11: Let’s Send A $200,000,000 Check To Iran
At the Tuesday-morning meeting with committee staffers, Biden launches into a stream-of-consciousness monologue about what his committee should be doing, before he finally admits the obvious: “I’m groping here.” Then he hits on an idea: America needs to show the Arab world that we’re not bent on its destruction. “Seems to me this would be a good time to send, no strings attached, a check for $200 million to Iran,” Biden declares. He surveys the table with raised eyebrows, a How do ya like that? look on his face
Let the parsing and the re-inventing history begin! LOL!
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Date: Aug 20, 2008 - 9:17 PM EST Bring on Biden
I know a bit about Sen Biden having had to endure him as a resident of Delaware for the last 28 years. Biden is the most bigoted, angry and arrogant member in the Senate. Ds often talk about Rs being warmongers and yet they have one in their own ranks. He voted to go to war in Afghanistan and Iraq. He also favored sending troops into Sudan. Biden has also been a top foreign policy critic of Obama.
He supports abortion including not mandating parental notification of abortions for children. He is against providing vouchers to parents allowing them to exercise complete choice in the education of their children.
He is in favor of big gov.programs and raising taxes. He has been an often disrespectful critic of judges whose positions differ from his own.
He is a leader in the Global Warming hoax and voted for bio fuel bills that subsidize our food supply to create energy, driving up fuel prices and causing more damage to the environment than non ethanol blended fuels. He referred to those who want to expand oil exploration in the Gulf as wanting to “rape the continental shelf”.
Biden is a pork barrel spender with farm bills that benefit DE. He rejected the 2nd Amendment on numerous occasions. He believes that the citizens of the U.S. are unable to think for themselves and that he is uniquely qualified to decide what rights we are permitted to enjoy.
He supports allowing illegals access to SS and healthcare. He supports universal healthcare and not privatizing the SS system. Instead of allowing people to invest their SS $s how they see fit, he thinks that the same government, who has destroyed the current system should do it.
He is against credits to Americans to allow them to choose their own healthcare plans and believes that the gov. who has spent the country into trillions of $s of debt and bankrupted the sole source of retirement funds for millions of Americans should manage it.
He feels that Americans are ill equipped to answer the questions of daily life.
“Wasn’t there supposed to be a Rally before or after this announcement????”
I’m referring to the announcement of the VP in Springfield...I saw no American flags in the entire crowd....only Obama-Biden signs.
I can’t wait to see the midnight drunken train stop with these two. It’ll be better than the last one for sure!
Note how gray Obama was when he was with Rick Warren at Saddleback Church.
When will we hear Jeremiah Wright screaming, “Jill Biden ain’t never been called a _____!”?
IMHO, That comment is the main reason you did not see Hillary on the ticket. She didn’t want to have anything to do with ‘all that mess’.
Howard Fineman also said that Joe Biden had “working class roots.” Yeah, right! Joe Biden went to high school at Archmere Academy, the toniest private school in Delaware, where tuition for the current school year is $18,450 a year — that’s higher than Penn State! — and it doesn’t include the bus, at $2,500 to $3,000 a year.
Comment by Dana @ 8/19/2008 - 6:16 pm
I’ve noticed the changing hair color too..he has the touch of gray now and then, trying to look older and more knowledgeable?? Now with Grandpa Biden on board I guess he skipped his graying treatment!
Biden: Obama is clean, well spoken and not ready to lead...is it any wonder the crowd seemed unenthused? Or was there no free pizza and beer? Are they still gonna allow pot smoking in Denver for the coronation?
That midnight train to nowhere “event” was surreal, LOL. And hey, didn’t Biden arrive on a train? I do believe the trainwreck is already well underway.
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