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1 posted on 08/20/2008 12:26:13 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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Even if you’re paranoid, it doesn’t mean you don’t have enemies. - Henry Kissinger

I’m paraphrasing here, gang.


2 posted on 08/20/2008 12:27:51 PM PDT by RexBeach
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and again, the eyes come off of Iran, Russias buddy.


4 posted on 08/20/2008 12:29:35 PM PDT by sappy
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WOULD YOU LIKE TO PLAY A GAME?


5 posted on 08/20/2008 12:30:06 PM PDT by edcoil
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Russia has really gone bonkers. They’re getting as bad as Iran. I used to think Russia was, or was striving to be, a modern European state, but all of a sudden its inner lunatic seems to be emerging. Maybe it’s from too much contact with Ahmadinejad and his ilk.


6 posted on 08/20/2008 12:31:30 PM PDT by livius
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I'm going to repeat this question on every thread about this issue:

Barak Hussein Obama has vowed to scrap the unproven missile defense program, in order to use the saved money for social welfare.

If it is so unproven, Mr. Obama, Why has Russia threatened to attack Poland if they install it?

10 posted on 08/20/2008 12:34:33 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do it, but we're gonna getcha)
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We have missles off of the Adak chain. That is only 80 miles from Russia. What is the difference. Don’t see them threatening us with attack. Maybe cause they had their “Let’s move on Poland next” plan disturbed.


12 posted on 08/20/2008 12:35:41 PM PDT by jmpmstr4u2 (CEO; 72 Virgin dating service, (We'll set you up))
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This is just so absurd. Poland is putting up DEFENSIVE SHIELDS- these aren’t offensive weapons.

Russia is looking for trouble, actively searching for it- and I still can’t figure out what they have to gain??


13 posted on 08/20/2008 12:37:08 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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Poland is a lock stock and barrel member of NATO and as a result come under the military protection of every other member.

The Russians can talk all the junk they want...but they dont want any part of the Germans much less the Brits and Americans.


16 posted on 08/20/2008 12:40:26 PM PDT by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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“When you threaten Poland, you perhaps forget that it is not 1988,” Rice said. “It’s 2008 and the United States has a ... firm treaty guarantee to defend Poland’s territory as if it was the territory of the United States. So it’s probably not wise to throw these threats around.”

Condi earned her monthly paycheck with that one. Bravo.


17 posted on 08/20/2008 12:42:58 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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IMHO-

Russia makes no sense.

They are using the issue as leverage, to distract from their actions in Georgia and elsewhere, and because they are generally against ANYTHING that strengthens NATO or expands it.

But does their position make any sense? No.

10 Interceptors vs. the Russian inventory of 496 ICBMS, plus SLBMS, aircraft based systems, and theater based systems? Is this a joke?

The argument that it’s 150 miles from their boarder is back ass backwards. This is an argument for the Interceptor! This system isn’t designed for close in lower altitudes and is nothing like a Patriot PAC3. Interceptor is designed for exo-atmospheric mid course intercept.

What about the orientation and placement of fixed radars, etc etc etc.

Even offers to let Russians on the missile sites (Something which poses a security risk for us) isn’t good enough. Even our willingness to allow the Russians to be on those sites themselves and have direct insight into what we are doing and observe the emplacement and day to day operations will not appease this bear for obvious reasons.

The Russian position only makes sense when one does not want to dig deeper, and wants to stay ignorant. It only makes sense to those who want to give them credence in their argument for some ulterior motive. Interceptor is a strictly defensive system (It can deliver a warhead with any real destructive power anywhere), placed in the wrong place, with fixed radars looking the wrong way, in far too small numbers...... too be of any concern for the Russians. But that’s not really the reason the Russians are screaming, is it?

What’s happening is in a way good, but I sure wish it would have happened much sooner and at a time when it does not distract from their actions in Georgia. The Russians are flexing their muscle and showing their true colors since 2005, and many are rethinking that whole “we’re friends” nonsense.


22 posted on 08/20/2008 12:58:35 PM PDT by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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Hey Obama ? If the missile defense system is so unproven, Why are the Russians threatening to attack Poland if they install it?
Has Rush talked about this on his show ?
Is the McCain campaign aware of what Obama said about the missile defense system ?
Is anyone from the McCain campaign here on FR ? please ? John McCain can score some points with this one in either the presidential debates, or a nation wide TV ad campaign.
27 posted on 08/20/2008 1:11:18 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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Russia is bluffing. They used their crack units in Georgia and I bet they are having a lot of logisitical issues in refit and repair.


30 posted on 08/20/2008 1:16:17 PM PDT by AU72
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Creating a pretense for an incursion by Russia. That’s precisely what S. Ossetia was for Georgia. I would imagine they have something planned for Ukraine as well.


36 posted on 08/20/2008 2:18:58 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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Weaken them back to where bows and arrows are superior to stone throwing. Works for me.

Justice


38 posted on 08/20/2008 3:17:39 PM PDT by Justice (Never trust a Russian. They are cheats and Liars.)
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