Liberals Accusing McCain of Stealing Cross Story From Solzhenitsyn

8/17/08 | Pinkbell

[Pinkbell]

This appears to be a large topic of discussion over at Democratic Underground and Daily Kos. The diary at Daily Kos has over 800 posts, and three diaries have been spawned from it. They are discussing the Daily Kos diary at Democratic Underground as well. If you check out the link, you can read the diary with Solzhenitsyn's story. The stories are similar, but they aren't identical. The liberals are speculating that McCain either knowingly stole the story, or he is in the early stages of dementia and mistook Solzhenitsyn's experience as his own.

I give McCain the benefit of the doubt. It's certainly possible that both men had similar experiences. Afterall, Christianity transcends nations and people.

[Shelayne]

These libbies are really desperate. And complete idiots.

This has been a very common thing between Christians in lands where they are persecuted. “Scribbling in the sand” is nothing new. The guard drew the cross in the sand, on Christmas, to let McCain know that they were brothers in Christ. Then he stubbed it out with his boot, because to be CAUGHT as a Christian, would have been a certain death sentence for that guard.

These idiots don’t have a clue what persecution is. They think persecution is when someone doesn’t agree with them. They wouldn’t survive a week in a Communist country.

I seriously have had it with the lot of them. They are on my (as mom would say) last nerve! Grrrrrr.

[eeevil conservative]

This is RIDICULOUS!

Does anyone remember the Bible stories about the lion’s dens, and how Paul himself was actually a Christian killer? It was kind of unsafe to be a Christian in some areas during some time periods.....

Christians would identify themselves to each other by creating a rounded line, a fellow Christian would add a nother rounded line in such a way that it created the fish.

Now— sit down folks. This is where it gets REALLY REALLY tough.....

THIS WAS DONE BY MORE THAN JUST ONE STINKING PERSON, and ON MORE THAN JUST ONE OCCASION!

I know, I know....it is hard to believe.....but it is true...it is really, really true....

I mean really? A whole thread dedicated to the fact that KOS and DU think they have cracked some major lie?

KOS and friends make accusations. FReepers use technology, and documents to show dishonesty of the Libs.

Let’s see what they throw next, and which Freepers run to fetch it like good little pets.....

geeeshkk.......

[gingerky]

I really hope you aren’t the lead moderator because you are an idiot. Free Republic my ass!!

[jennyjenny]

Meh.....Just Words. Maybe Solzhenitsyn said it was okay for McCain to use his story. /s

[Petronski]

Jerome Corsi quotes a passage from one of Obama's books about letting a match burn down until the flame reached his fingers. When asked "what's the trick," he replies coolly: "The trick is not caring."

This is taken directly from All the President's Men, wherein G.Gordon Liddy is said to have held his hand over a candle until the flesh burned. When asked "what's the trick," he replies coolly: "The trick is not caring."

You want stolen stories? THERE'S your stolen story.

[Out to lunch]

That accusation isn’t new. It came from a post here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1538054/posts

[Prime Mover]

I seem to remember reading that about McCain on some GOP sites a year ago.

redstate.org had some posts from people claiming that McCain made it up.

Of course it is not provable, so really, what could the left do with this?

Unlike Hillary’s sniper story.... which WAS disprovable because of videotape footage.

McCain’s claim cannot be proven or disproven, so it really is a moot point.

[FFranco]

Daily KOS is now reporting that the charge that McCain copied the story from Solzhenitsyn first appeared here, on Free Republic, in 2005. Here is the link to that charge on FR:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1538054/posts?q=1&;page=51#93

Here is where it appears on Daily KOS: http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/8/18/769/18054/897/569634

[x]

That accusation isn’t new. It came from a post here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1538054/posts

True. Go to post 93.

A similar story has appeared in a lot of sermons. But Solzhenitsyn may not actually have told that story. It may just have been attributed to him by preachers who weren't sure where the account came from. Or it may be part of someone else's story related by Solzhenitsyn in the Gulag Archipelago. Maybe somebody familiar with his works might weigh in.

Notice that the two stories aren't the same. It's possible, though, that some details from the book or the sermon entered McCain's recollection.

[unspun]

Fellow POW: I Remember McCain Telling the "Cross in the Dirt" Story [In 1971]

McCain's Former Hanoi Cell Mate Describes Character in Deplorable Conditions

[SideoutFred]

The libs are idiots to make this attack. They are claiming this weekend was the first time he made this claim, yet it’s in his own book and now decorated POWs are saying the same thing. Idiots on the left are abound.