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Liberals Accusing McCain of Stealing Cross Story From Solzhenitsyn
8/17/08 | Pinkbell

Posted on 08/17/2008 8:35:32 PM PDT by Pinkbell

This appears to be a large topic of discussion over at Democratic Underground and Daily Kos. The diary at Daily Kos has over 800 posts, and three diaries have been spawned from it. They are discussing the Daily Kos diary at Democratic Underground as well. If you check out the link, you can read the diary with Solzhenitsyn's story. The stories are similar, but they aren't identical. The liberals are speculating that McCain either knowingly stole the story, or he is in the early stages of dementia and mistook Solzhenitsyn's experience as his own.

I give McCain the benefit of the doubt. It's certainly possible that both men had similar experiences. Afterall, Christianity transcends nations and people.


TOPICS: Religion
KEYWORDS: christianity; cross; dementia; liberalmeltdown; mccain; obama; pow; saddleback; vietnam
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To: Pinkbell

I say the accusers are liars. Prove me wrong.


21 posted on 08/17/2008 8:49:06 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.iraqvetsforcongress.com ---- Get involved, make a difference.)
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To: Hugin

That’s a completely different story than McCain’s.


22 posted on 08/17/2008 8:51:08 PM PDT by flyfree
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To: Pinkbell
The diary at Daily Kos has over 800 posts, and three diaries have been spawned from it. They are discussing the Daily Kos diary at Democratic Underground

And why should we give a crap?

23 posted on 08/17/2008 8:52:00 PM PDT by Lead Moderator
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To: TomGuy

Yeah.

Guard used his foot. Guard used a stick.

Proof positive!


24 posted on 08/17/2008 8:52:09 PM PDT by airborne (American by birth! Christian by choice!)
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To: Pinkbell

All the “catterwalling” from the Dems proves one thing to me...they know their man was beat up and they’re trying to make excuses or distract from the sorry performance of Obama. McCain knew the questions, McCain made up a story, the audience was stacked in McCain’s favor, McCain mischaracterized what Obama believes...I said it this morning, but I’ll say it again, I’m going to start calling him Owaaaama!


25 posted on 08/17/2008 8:52:42 PM PDT by Dawn531
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To: Lead Moderator

Pinkbell = stealth troll


26 posted on 08/17/2008 8:53:10 PM PDT by airborne (American by birth! Christian by choice!)
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To: TomGuy

Ine story the guard draws the cross with a stick and another with his foot. That is the bid difference?


27 posted on 08/17/2008 8:53:15 PM PDT by flyfree
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To: Lead Moderator
they are coming out of the woodwork tonight.

That forum really shook them up, bigtime.

28 posted on 08/17/2008 8:53:39 PM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E. That spells free. freerepublic.com baby)
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To: All

If this is the best they got BHO is finished. Mccain sweep the floor with Obama. Like Reagan he will put our country first.

While I believe he will be to eager to get help from the Dems, I will now be voting for Mccain not against Obama.


29 posted on 08/17/2008 8:54:15 PM PDT by Bailee
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To: JLS

Who were the witnesses? Do they back McCain’s version?


30 posted on 08/17/2008 8:54:49 PM PDT by uscabjd ( a)
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To: mware

The DU link is ref’s the Kos link.


31 posted on 08/17/2008 8:54:54 PM PDT by REDWOOD99
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To: MNJohnnie

Dan Rather has proof that Mac wasn’t even in a prisoner camp. Perhaps these Kooks should spend 5 years in a commie camp and find out if this type of thing happens regularly? Guess this is more proof Maverick cleaned Black Racist Oblack’s clock.

Pray for W and Our Troops


32 posted on 08/17/2008 8:56:31 PM PDT by bray (Drill Congress!!)
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To: Pinkbell

Leftists are longing for a “Swift Boat” moment.... it’s perfectly plausible that such “cross” events have occurred a number of times in Gulag and prison camp situations — one would think that Christians in such circumstances would all think about when and if they should share such a moment with another Christian.

I have no idea how often it does occur, but drawing a cross in dirt or sand when that is the only possible communication available to two Christians under such extreme circumstances, well, it’s quite possible that there are such occurences on many occasions across the various Gulag and other prison camps run by vicious commie pigs.

Also in McCain’s favor is that the Solzhenitsyn story involved a fellow prisoner and the McCain story involved a guard, so the 2nd story is not any obvious copy. Could it have been “inspired” by the Solzehnitsyn story? Certainly conceivable, but without any actual evidence there is no reason to assume that McCain’s story did not occur as described. He certainly deserves the benefit of any doubt.


33 posted on 08/17/2008 8:57:21 PM PDT by Enchante (Obama-cons: Trying to fool America, one media dupe at a time!)
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To: Pinkbell

Obama is the one that told the whopper. Him and his abortion bullchit. Thats going to worry evangelicals more then some war story.


34 posted on 08/17/2008 8:58:37 PM PDT by linn37 (Hail Me, Obama or be cast into the firey pits of eternal damnation!")
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To: Pinkbell

Still waiting for your reply. Moderators standing by.


35 posted on 08/17/2008 8:59:27 PM PDT by Lead Moderator
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To: JLS
It would be so unseemly to publically doubt such a story without some proof it was doubtful.

Want to call McCain's POW stories a bunch of lies, dumbocrats? Go ahead...make our day...month...election.
36 posted on 08/17/2008 8:59:44 PM PDT by GLDNGUN
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To: TomGuy
Hmm so let see. Unsubstaited accusations from Leftists with a long history of inaccuracy are now accepted as fact?

Remembering the story slightly different over decades is not uncommon. Had an experience like that. Ran into a old high school teacher. He remembered me submitting a plagiarized story. I remember him giving me an F and accusing me of plagiarism on a story I did not plagiarize. Dropped the class because I was so angry about his wholly baseless accusation. He claimed he read the same story I submitted while in Korea in 1954. How I was supposed to know, in 1982, of this story he read in Korea? How was he suppose to remember that story exactly some 30 years later? Curious thing, was unable to produce the story but clearly "remembered" reading the same story. Baseless yet he "remembered" it that way clearly.

So as any Lawyer will tell you, "memory" is fallible. So here is a real life example of a "memory" being recalled completely different at different times. I suspect something like this happened to McCain. I say those making this accusation are liars. Prove me wrong. But you cannot. This is why the Left delights in these sort of slanderous attacks. When they get caught lieing, they simply move on to the next attack wasting more time and effort from the Conservative forced to respond to the baselessness character assassination

I know you utterly loath McCain. Are desperate for anything to attack him on but this is utterly absurd.

37 posted on 08/17/2008 9:00:18 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.iraqvetsforcongress.com ---- Get involved, make a difference.)
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To: Pinkbell

my bet is on dementia.


38 posted on 08/17/2008 9:00:34 PM PDT by Liberty2007 (Here's Dr. Savage's analysis on the POTUS race"The Afro-Leninist vs The Sarcophagus)
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To: JLS

Who were the witnesses? Do they back McCain’s version?


39 posted on 08/17/2008 9:01:42 PM PDT by uscabjd ( a)
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To: uscabjd
There are no witnesses. So the accusation is based wholly on completely unsubstaiated accusations.

I say the accusers are lairs. Prove me wrong.

40 posted on 08/17/2008 9:01:53 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.iraqvetsforcongress.com ---- Get involved, make a difference.)
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