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McCain alarms base with abortion comment
Politico ^ | 8/14/2008 | Jonathan Martin

Posted on 08/14/2008 8:54:39 PM PDT by Alter Kaker

Top social conservative leaders in key battleground states are urging John McCain not to pick a running mate who supports abortion rights, warning of dire consequences from a Republican base already unenthused about their nominee.

McCain’s comments Wednesday to the Weekly Standard’s Stephen Hayes that former Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Ridge’s pro-abortion rights views wouldn’t necessarily rule him out quickly found their way into the in-boxes of Christian conservatives. For those who have been anxiously awaiting McCain’s pick as a signal of his ideological intentions, there was deep concern that their worst fears about the Arizona senator may be realized.

“It absolutely floored me,” said Phil Burress, head of the Ohio-based Citizens for Community Values. “It would doom him in Ohio.”

Burress emailed about a dozen “pro-family leaders” he knows outside Ohio and forwarded it to three McCain aides tasked with Christian conservative outreach.

“That choice will end his bid for the presidency and spell defeat for other Republican candidates,” Burress wrote in the message.

He and other Ohio conservatives met privately with McCain in June, and while the nominee didn’t promise them an anti-abortion rights running mate, his staff said they could “almost guarantee” that would be the case, Burress recalled.


Now, Burress said, “he’s not even sure [Christian conservatives] would vote for him let alone work for him if he picked a pro-abortion running mate.”

James Muffett, head of Michigan’s Citizens for Traditional Values, met with McCain along with a handful of other Michigan-based social conservatives Wednesday night.

“A good portion of us were urging him to pick a pro-life running mate,” Muffett said, noting that they were doing so before even getting wind of the Standard story. “That choice would go a long way to solidify his credentials.”

Muffett said McCain didn’t offer any promises on the issue, but rather reiterated his anti-abortion record and assured them that he was aware of how critical the base was to the electoral success of Republican presidents dating back to Ronald Reagan.

To select a running mate who supports abortion rights would be “wrong-headed, short-sighted, fracture the Republican Party and not allow us to capitalize on the Democratic Party’s fracture right now,” Muffett argued.

“If he does that, it makes our job 100 times harder. It would dampen enthusiasm at a time when evangelicals are looking for ways to gin up enthusiasm.”


McCain, Muffett said, got that message in their meeting.

“Some people in the movement say it would be the kiss of death. He heard that in the room last night.”

With polls showing McCain and Obama still neck-and-neck in many competitive states, conservatives argue that their candidate must turn out Christian conservatives in large numbers to win.

In Iowa, for example, many in the GOP say Bush won in 2004 after losing there in 2000 because he bolstered turnout among the religious right in the conservative western part of the state and in exurban areas.

“Bush only won by 10,000 votes,” recalled Steve Scheffler, president of the Iowa Christian Alliance and a Republican committeeman from the state. “You’re going to have to have a huge turnout of that base again for McCain to win.”

And, Scheffler noted, it’s not just a matter of ensuring that social conservatives vote – picking a supporter of abortion rights could erode McCain’s volunteer base.

“Ninety percent of the workforce for Bush in ’04 came out of that constituency,” he said, alluding to the Christian right. “Picking a Ridge or a [Joseph] Lieberman would not be helpful at all.”

Rep. Peter Hoekstra, who represents a conservative, heavily Dutch district in western Michigan where Republicans traditionally pile up huge margins, said a pro-abortion rights running mate “would be problematic.”

“That’s not where they’d want him going,” Hoekstra said of the party base.

McCain’s campaign sought to tamp down the uproar, suggesting the candidate had merely been overly expansive about a sensitive topic and hadn’t intended to float a trial balloon.

“The point that McCain was making is that people can differ on one issue and still be a vital member of our party,” said an aide. “The fact that Governor Ridge is not perfectly in line with the party platform does not make him any less of a Republican.”

In the interview, McCain said “the pro-life position is one of the important aspects or fundamentals of the Republican Party.”


“And I also feel that — and I'm not trying to equivocate here — that Americans want us to work together. You know, Tom Ridge is one of the great leaders and he happens to be pro-choice. And I don't think that that would necessarily rule Tom Ridge out [for vice-president].”

He added: “I think it's a fundamental tenet of our party to be pro-life, but that does not mean we exclude people from our party that are pro-choice. We just have a — albeit strong — but just it's a disagreement. And I think Ridge is a great example of that.”

The GOP base aside, some observers believe that picking an outside-the-box running mate such as Lieberman could help McCain with the broad middle of the country who are fed up with the political status quo and enable him to pick off even more Clinton backers.

“This move to a pro-choice running mate such as Lieberman could help reshape his message to appeal to swing voters,” said Doug Schoen, a Democratic pollster who worked for New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg when he was a Republican and has written a book about moving away from the two-party system. “The right-wing is not going anywhere and choice is a key issue for over-40 women who voted for Hillary in the primaries.”

But to some in the GOP who supported other candidates in the primary and are having trouble mustering much enthusiasm for McCain, the mere mention of a pro-choice running mate is disheartening.

“A lot of the troops here are on the fence or disappointed,” said Elizabeth Sipfle, a Michigan Republican and former leader of Mike Huckabee’s grassroots “Huck’s Army” organization who contacted Politico to register her concern. “Let’s not get our blood boiling.”


“Be smart,” she urged McCain. “There’s a big group here that’s already feeling marginalized.”


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KEYWORDS: 2008veep; abortion; gopcoup; mccain; mccainlist; rino; rinorevolution; tomridge
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To: Alter Kaker

How ‘bout that there Declaration thingie!

Sorry... public edumacated in Alabamy. Even rednecks mis-speak now and again.

I sincerely appreciate the catch, my friend.


81 posted on 08/14/2008 9:58:52 PM PDT by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - God is our only hope!)
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To: Jo Nuvark

If only the government (in the form of the graduates of the Blackburn Supreme Court Med School class of 1973) hadn’t unconditionally licensed the murderers and protect them from even the slightest limits.

No matter how well we teach our children, they’re exposed to the creeping changes in expectations - sex-plus, comprehensive sex ed, “take care of it,” all piled on top of the old double standard that is worse than ever.

Pray for our nation and our babies of all ages.


82 posted on 08/14/2008 9:59:54 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I have a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.))
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To: Gordon Greene; Das Outsider; semaj

[... God is our hope ...]

Indeed. And God is big enough to handle the mess we’ve gotten ourselves into Ollie.


83 posted on 08/14/2008 10:00:30 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Alter Kaker
Nowhere in the Constitution does it say "All men are created equal."

Nope, it surely doesn't. Declaration literalists seem to be confused.

Impeach George III! ;)
84 posted on 08/14/2008 10:02:02 PM PDT by Das Outsider (They're here. Deport now. Pay less to Mexico.)
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To: jbarntt

“Personally, I’m getting to the opinion Lieberman would be a good choice for veep. “

It would be a lonely opinion on FR. Lieberman is a liberal Democrat. It would be a slap in the face to the whole Republican party.

There is ZERO chance of that happening.


85 posted on 08/14/2008 10:02:16 PM PDT by WOSG (http://no-bama.blogspot.com/ - NObama, stop the Hype and Chains candidate)
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To: Das Outsider; Gordon Greene

[... Um, let’s see—somewhat literate people that don’t think in bumper sticker slogans and soundbites, or the “Bomb Russia or Else,” groupthink, angry liberals-in-denial crowd...]

Listen buddy. I want to wear these rose colored glasses just a little while longer. You hear me?


86 posted on 08/14/2008 10:03:53 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Jo Nuvark

You nailed it.


87 posted on 08/14/2008 10:05:32 PM PDT by afnamvet
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To: Jo Nuvark; Gordon Greene
I don't care what Jo Nuvark says, I still like this FR newbie. ;)

If I didn't say it in a roundabout way earlier, welcome to FR, Mr. Greene. We'll be in touch.
88 posted on 08/14/2008 10:06:18 PM PDT by Das Outsider (They're here. Deport now. Pay less to Mexico.)
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To: FFranco

Dittos on the catch...

“And Gordon, silent walked into yon even’,
Face withdrawn, head hung low in shame,
Misspoken, not misquoted Now, alas,
All cry upon the mention of his name.

Oh, such a step should ne’er be forgiven,
Betraying what this nation rests upon,
So, quietly into the night he’s driven,
For nothing can be done to right this wrong.”

Meanwhile, back at the ranch... Obama wins in a landslide!


89 posted on 08/14/2008 10:06:45 PM PDT by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - God is our only hope!)
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To: hocndoc; Das Outsider; Gordon Greene; semaj

[... No matter how well we teach our children, they’re exposed to the creeping changes in expectations - sex-plus, comprehensive sex ed, “take care of it,” all piled on top of the old double standard that is worse than ever.
Pray for our nation and our babies of all ages...]

If you are faithful to God, He will be faithful
to you. Teach God’s truth. Like leaven, truth
multiplies. Test Him in this and see.


90 posted on 08/14/2008 10:07:53 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Jo Nuvark
Listen buddy. I want to wear these rose colored glasses just a little while longer. You hear me?

Or perhaps you've confused them with beer goggles.
91 posted on 08/14/2008 10:08:02 PM PDT by Das Outsider (They're here. Deport now. Pay less to Mexico.)
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To: Gordon Greene; Das Outsider; semaj; NFHale

Gordon Greene RAWKS!


92 posted on 08/14/2008 10:09:49 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: hocndoc

Have you taken your children out of public school?((((Hugs)))),Fatima


93 posted on 08/14/2008 10:10:35 PM PDT by fatima
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To: FFranco
This is not in defence of abortion, but individuals have rights not enumerated in the Constitution. That is recognized in the ninth and tenth amendments: Ninth Amendment: The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people. Tenth Amendment: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people. The founders feared that some would argue that if a right was not listed in the Constitution, then it was not a right possessed by individuals and could be taken by the state. That is an argument that conservatives must deny.

Your post seems somewhat unclear to me. The amendments you refer to would seem to suggest that abortion is not an issue for the federal government, but rather the states, meaning that Roe v. Wade should be overturned and the issue decided by each of the 50 states.

That is my opinion. Just as I don't want New Yorker's to dictate to to me as an Oregonian, I do not wish to dictate to them. This seems to me to be the conservative position, follow the constitution and where the federal government has no authority, the states do.

94 posted on 08/14/2008 10:10:58 PM PDT by jbarntt (Tagline:optional, printed after your name on post): -30-)
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To: Das Outsider
That was funny! I found this place after being on a site filled with liberal writers. Lots of creativity, but no depth. You guys are a riot, good writers and deep. It's good to be home (by the way; no I haven't figured out how to send to more than one at a time).
95 posted on 08/14/2008 10:11:56 PM PDT by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - God is our only hope!)
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To: afnamvet; Das Outsider; NFHale; semaj; Gordon Greene

God bless you 7th Air Force.

Read the entire thread. There
is a wonderful tone of civility
here tonight that I haven’t seen
in many months.


96 posted on 08/14/2008 10:13:39 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Das Outsider

Beer Goggles???

You’ve been lurking on the beer thread again.


97 posted on 08/14/2008 10:16:37 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Alter Kaker

BTTT!


98 posted on 08/14/2008 10:16:51 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Alter Kaker

I will NEVER vote for a VP who is pro-abortion. I WILL sit out this election if he picks one. This better not come to pass or I would even withdraw from the Republican Party.


99 posted on 08/14/2008 10:17:06 PM PDT by tioga
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To: Jo Nuvark; Gordon Greene
Gordon Greene RAWKS!

While he may RAWK!, there is the matter of the English Lit purity test, you know.

It is as follows:

Bill agitates the Budweiser. Explain. Hint: August.
100 posted on 08/14/2008 10:18:05 PM PDT by Das Outsider (They're here. Deport now. Pay less to Mexico.)
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