Posted on 08/14/2008 8:54:39 PM PDT by Alter Kaker
Top social conservative leaders in key battleground states are urging John McCain not to pick a running mate who supports abortion rights, warning of dire consequences from a Republican base already unenthused about their nominee.
McCains comments Wednesday to the Weekly Standards Stephen Hayes that former Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Ridges pro-abortion rights views wouldnt necessarily rule him out quickly found their way into the in-boxes of Christian conservatives. For those who have been anxiously awaiting McCains pick as a signal of his ideological intentions, there was deep concern that their worst fears about the Arizona senator may be realized.
It absolutely floored me, said Phil Burress, head of the Ohio-based Citizens for Community Values. It would doom him in Ohio.
Burress emailed about a dozen pro-family leaders he knows outside Ohio and forwarded it to three McCain aides tasked with Christian conservative outreach.
That choice will end his bid for the presidency and spell defeat for other Republican candidates, Burress wrote in the message.
He and other Ohio conservatives met privately with McCain in June, and while the nominee didnt promise them an anti-abortion rights running mate, his staff said they could almost guarantee that would be the case, Burress recalled.
Now, Burress said, hes not even sure [Christian conservatives] would vote for him let alone work for him if he picked a pro-abortion running mate.
James Muffett, head of Michigans Citizens for Traditional Values, met with McCain along with a handful of other Michigan-based social conservatives Wednesday night.
A good portion of us were urging him to pick a pro-life running mate, Muffett said, noting that they were doing so before even getting wind of the Standard story. That choice would go a long way to solidify his credentials.
Muffett said McCain didnt offer any promises on the issue, but rather reiterated his anti-abortion record and assured them that he was aware of how critical the base was to the electoral success of Republican presidents dating back to Ronald Reagan.
To select a running mate who supports abortion rights would be wrong-headed, short-sighted, fracture the Republican Party and not allow us to capitalize on the Democratic Partys fracture right now, Muffett argued.
If he does that, it makes our job 100 times harder. It would dampen enthusiasm at a time when evangelicals are looking for ways to gin up enthusiasm.
McCain, Muffett said, got that message in their meeting.
Some people in the movement say it would be the kiss of death. He heard that in the room last night.
With polls showing McCain and Obama still neck-and-neck in many competitive states, conservatives argue that their candidate must turn out Christian conservatives in large numbers to win.
In Iowa, for example, many in the GOP say Bush won in 2004 after losing there in 2000 because he bolstered turnout among the religious right in the conservative western part of the state and in exurban areas.
Bush only won by 10,000 votes, recalled Steve Scheffler, president of the Iowa Christian Alliance and a Republican committeeman from the state. Youre going to have to have a huge turnout of that base again for McCain to win.
And, Scheffler noted, its not just a matter of ensuring that social conservatives vote picking a supporter of abortion rights could erode McCains volunteer base.
Ninety percent of the workforce for Bush in 04 came out of that constituency, he said, alluding to the Christian right. Picking a Ridge or a [Joseph] Lieberman would not be helpful at all.
Rep. Peter Hoekstra, who represents a conservative, heavily Dutch district in western Michigan where Republicans traditionally pile up huge margins, said a pro-abortion rights running mate would be problematic.
Thats not where theyd want him going, Hoekstra said of the party base.
McCains campaign sought to tamp down the uproar, suggesting the candidate had merely been overly expansive about a sensitive topic and hadnt intended to float a trial balloon.
The point that McCain was making is that people can differ on one issue and still be a vital member of our party, said an aide. The fact that Governor Ridge is not perfectly in line with the party platform does not make him any less of a Republican.
In the interview, McCain said the pro-life position is one of the important aspects or fundamentals of the Republican Party.
And I also feel that and I'm not trying to equivocate here that Americans want us to work together. You know, Tom Ridge is one of the great leaders and he happens to be pro-choice. And I don't think that that would necessarily rule Tom Ridge out [for vice-president].
He added: I think it's a fundamental tenet of our party to be pro-life, but that does not mean we exclude people from our party that are pro-choice. We just have a albeit strong but just it's a disagreement. And I think Ridge is a great example of that.
The GOP base aside, some observers believe that picking an outside-the-box running mate such as Lieberman could help McCain with the broad middle of the country who are fed up with the political status quo and enable him to pick off even more Clinton backers.
This move to a pro-choice running mate such as Lieberman could help reshape his message to appeal to swing voters, said Doug Schoen, a Democratic pollster who worked for New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg when he was a Republican and has written a book about moving away from the two-party system. The right-wing is not going anywhere and choice is a key issue for over-40 women who voted for Hillary in the primaries.
But to some in the GOP who supported other candidates in the primary and are having trouble mustering much enthusiasm for McCain, the mere mention of a pro-choice running mate is disheartening.
A lot of the troops here are on the fence or disappointed, said Elizabeth Sipfle, a Michigan Republican and former leader of Mike Huckabees grassroots Hucks Army organization who contacted Politico to register her concern. Lets not get our blood boiling.
Be smart, she urged McCain. Theres a big group here thats already feeling marginalized.
How ‘bout that there Declaration thingie!
Sorry... public edumacated in Alabamy. Even rednecks mis-speak now and again.
I sincerely appreciate the catch, my friend.
If only the government (in the form of the graduates of the Blackburn Supreme Court Med School class of 1973) hadn’t unconditionally licensed the murderers and protect them from even the slightest limits.
No matter how well we teach our children, they’re exposed to the creeping changes in expectations - sex-plus, comprehensive sex ed, “take care of it,” all piled on top of the old double standard that is worse than ever.
Pray for our nation and our babies of all ages.
[... God is our hope ...]
Indeed. And God is big enough to handle the mess we’ve gotten ourselves into Ollie.
“Personally, I’m getting to the opinion Lieberman would be a good choice for veep. “
It would be a lonely opinion on FR. Lieberman is a liberal Democrat. It would be a slap in the face to the whole Republican party.
There is ZERO chance of that happening.
[... Um, let’s see—somewhat literate people that don’t think in bumper sticker slogans and soundbites, or the “Bomb Russia or Else,” groupthink, angry liberals-in-denial crowd...]
Listen buddy. I want to wear these rose colored glasses just a little while longer. You hear me?
You nailed it.
Dittos on the catch...
“And Gordon, silent walked into yon even’,
Face withdrawn, head hung low in shame,
Misspoken, not misquoted Now, alas,
All cry upon the mention of his name.
Oh, such a step should ne’er be forgiven,
Betraying what this nation rests upon,
So, quietly into the night he’s driven,
For nothing can be done to right this wrong.”
Meanwhile, back at the ranch... Obama wins in a landslide!
[... No matter how well we teach our children, theyre exposed to the creeping changes in expectations - sex-plus, comprehensive sex ed, take care of it, all piled on top of the old double standard that is worse than ever.
Pray for our nation and our babies of all ages...]
If you are faithful to God, He will be faithful
to you. Teach God’s truth. Like leaven, truth
multiplies. Test Him in this and see.
Gordon Greene RAWKS!
Have you taken your children out of public school?((((Hugs)))),Fatima
Your post seems somewhat unclear to me. The amendments you refer to would seem to suggest that abortion is not an issue for the federal government, but rather the states, meaning that Roe v. Wade should be overturned and the issue decided by each of the 50 states.
That is my opinion. Just as I don't want New Yorker's to dictate to to me as an Oregonian, I do not wish to dictate to them. This seems to me to be the conservative position, follow the constitution and where the federal government has no authority, the states do.
God bless you 7th Air Force.
Read the entire thread. There
is a wonderful tone of civility
here tonight that I haven’t seen
in many months.
Beer Goggles???
You’ve been lurking on the beer thread again.
BTTT!
I will NEVER vote for a VP who is pro-abortion. I WILL sit out this election if he picks one. This better not come to pass or I would even withdraw from the Republican Party.
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