Drill Here, Drill Now- (Live Thread, Day X)

8/14/08 | Sherri Reese

[hoe_cake]

Arguing with a libertarian friend a moment ago about ANWR drilling, his comment “raping the Alaskan wilderness” fired me up enough to search for the real truth on this Alaskan wilderness we mean ole conservatives want to “desecrate.”

And I found this link showing that the proposed drilling site is only .08% of the Alaskan wilderness.

http://www.anwr.org/gallery/pages/01-ANWR%20land%20use%20map.htm

FYI, in case you haven’t seen it already.

[taraytarah]

[EdReform]

And when he starts to parrot the greenie talking point "it will be 10 years or more for the new oil to come to market to do any good," show him this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2046340/posts?page=5#5

[hoe_cake]

“””it will be 10 years or more for the new oil to come to market to do any good,” ... .”

blah, blah, blah. What are these whiners gonna do? Roll over and die?

They’re a bunch of babies with this “10 years” comment. So immature.

And HEY! Thanks for the link. I’ve bookmarked it to add to my other ‘weaponry.’

[EdReform]

You’re welcome! For a list articles containing energy facts and figures, use the Keyword “energyfacts” ( http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/energyfacts/index ).

[hoe_cake]

wouldn’t do as “fact” with my Libertarian friend...any time he sees FReeRepublic attached to my links or “facts” he gets really defiant. It’s amazing how he can turn a cold hard fact in to an untruth.

I’m not a good political debator, that’s for sure. But I’m dumb enough to try. LOL.

[Son House]

More from;

The Audacity of Nope
Obama’s oil policy.

Page 1;

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MDYzZmRhODdhNGVmZGUyNWNhZDM3NDEwNWMxODg1MjY=&w=MA==

page 2;

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MDYzZmRhODdhNGVmZGUyNWNhZDM3NDEwNWMxODg1MjY=&w=MQ

Naturally, it’s hard for Big Oil to generate more petroleum when it cannot open new refineries, develop the Alaskan National Wildlife Refuge, broaden offshore production, nor even modernize its underwater maps. This is like screaming at Mom because dinner is late — while blocking the kitchen door.

[Son House]

Obama's 2d to pinpoint America’s offshore oil deposits;

Federal officials currently employ estimates based primarily on two-dimensional,
black-and-white maps that oil-industry surveyors produced in the 1970s and furnished to the Interior Department.





Obama’s bill would prohibit expanded use of 3-D,
color seismic techniques that locate and measure underwater oil deposits





Satellites help find and quantify subsea deposits, track their flows,
and predict their next steps.

[EdReform]

You don't need to give him the link to the FR Keyword "energyfacts." What you can do is use the Keyword to access the links to the original articles for yourself.

For example, the article posted on FR, "Does It Have To Take A Decade To Bring New Crude To Market?, is tagged with the Keyword "energyfacts." The original source for that article is Investor's Business Daily (htpp://www.investors.com/editorial/IBDArticles.asp?artsec=16&issue=20080718.

You can just give him the link to the original article, or print out the article for him. He doesn't even need to know it was posted on Free Republic.

[EdReform]

Excellent information. Thanks for posting it!

[Son House]

They have nice 3d pictures too;


The Audacity of Nope Obama’s oil policy.

[EagleUSA]

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:::::::
Of course not. She is a radical, leftist, socialist DemoRat. Decency, ethics, honor, morals, selflessness, honesty, integrity, patriotism?

You must be kidding.

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[Son House]

Thank you, I appreciate that, and would add, how hard must it be for the Press to just print the facts, when I can do it from just a little investment of time to get to the bottom of the factual evidence. I have no budget, and am not in the news business, yet kick their b-hinds in my spare time, guess they just want to hold the facts till after the election.

[DocRock]

"Tell me what investor will stick 20 to 100 million dollars into one drilling rig or platform on the grounds that there might be a need for it in a year or so?"
...
"I have been in this industry for the last 35 years and am rather high up the poll in regards to which drilling rig or company goes where. I have a good handle on what is real and what is not."

How long did it take the Brutus Platform to start producing from it's planning stage?

[backtothestreets]

I've been purposely quiet about this to watch and see how the debate progresses. I've absolutely no doubt we need more domestic oil production as soon as possible. We must move to that end.

What I find most troubling is the political divide regarding the potential sources. There are basically two opposing forces. On the one hand are those opposed to offshore drilling. These are mostly Democrats. On the other hand are those opposed to a use it or lose it stipulation on federal government land leases that are known to hold oil reserves. This group is predominately Republican.

I want both offshore drilling bans lifted AND a use it or lose it stipulation on federal land leases. I have heard the argument that the leased lands hold no promise. If that were so, why in the world would very successful businesses, large multinational oil companies spend millions upon millions of dollars securing the rights to something that is worthless? They would not, except to have the ability to control the production sources as a means to limit supplies, which in turn drive prices up.

I want one other addition to our energy independence needs. We need legislation that moves aside the courts as we try to address our domestic energy exploration and development. In todays political climate, even if offshore drilling bans were lifted and a use it or lose it stipulation imposed, it could reasonably take 10 years for oil companies to overcome court actions by environmentalists. This must not be.

[thackney]

The discovery well was completed in 1988. Leasing and Seismic study started years before that. Production began in 2001.

http://www.rigzone.com/news/article.asp?a_id=1345

[DocRock]

The oil was discovered in 1988. My question is in regard to the platform.

[DocRock]

BTW, the answer is in the article you posted.

[thackney]

a use it or lose it stipulation on federal land leases

Already exists. Leases are issued for 5, 8 or 10 year terms depending where they are. For example, deep water is usually a 10 year lease due to the time require to complete survey and schedule rigs. If they do not produce oil in the time frame, they lose the lease.

The democrats are blowing smoking by counting acreage that is under lease but exploration is not yet completed. They include acreage where protests and court injunction have held up drilling.

For more information read:

"Idle" lease claims based on lack of understanding: Cavaney
http://www.api.org/Newsroom/upload/rc_moc_6_20_08.pdf

Red Cavaney is the President and CEO of the American Petroleum Institute. But the Lame Stream Media doesn't like to report truth on this topic or interview people who actually know what they are talking about.