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On a planet 4C hotter, all we can prepare for is extinction
The Guardian ^ | Oliver Tickell

Posted on 08/12/2008 7:04:55 AM PDT by Col. Bob

On a planet 4C hotter, all we can prepare for is extinctionThere's no 'adaptation' to such steep warming. We must stop pandering to special interests, and try a new, post-Kyoto strategy We need to get prepared for four degrees of global warming, Bob Watson told the Guardian last week. At first sight this looks like wise counsel from the climate science adviser to Defra. But the idea that we could adapt to a 4C rise is absurd and dangerous. Global warming on this scale would be a catastrophe that would mean, in the immortal words that Chief Seattle probably never spoke, "the end of living and the beginning of survival" for humankind. Or perhaps the beginning of our extinction.

The collapse of the polar ice caps would become inevitable, bringing long-term sea level rises of 70-80 metres. All the world's coastal plains would be lost, complete with ports, cities, transport and industrial infrastructure, and much of the world's most productive farmland. The world's geography would be transformed much as it was at the end of the last ice age, when sea levels rose by about 120 metres to create the Channel, the North Sea and Cardigan Bay out of dry land. Weather would become extreme and unpredictable, with more frequent and severe droughts, floods and hurricanes. The Earth's carrying capacity would be hugely reduced. Billions would undoubtedly die.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; climatechange; environment; globalwanking; globalwarming; hysteria; theskyisfalling; wereallgonnadie
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To: Col. Bob

80 meters? Where is all that ice hiding?.


21 posted on 08/12/2008 7:15:02 AM PDT by omega4179 (B.Hussein Keep the change!)
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To: Izzy Dunne

Hey Ollie, do you know what a Red Giant is?


22 posted on 08/12/2008 7:15:10 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Col. Bob

Guardian alert! Guardian alert! Please move to the BS shelters and don your anti-marxist masks. The danger will pass as soon as the ill-educated attention deficit journalists turn their attention to the next fad.


23 posted on 08/12/2008 7:16:33 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Col. Bob

The Earth is cooling not warming as the link and passage below show. The liberal mainstream media has brainwashed 80% of the people into thinking the planet is getting warmer when it is really getting colder and will continue to cool:

http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2008/06/the-sunspot-mys.html

“He also noted that the world cooled quickly between January last year and January this year, by about 0.7C.

“This is the fastest temperature change in the instrumental record, and it puts us back to where we were in 1930,” Dr Chapman noted in The Australian recently.”


24 posted on 08/12/2008 7:18:13 AM PDT by rurgan (socialism doesn't work. Government is the problem not the solution to our problems.)
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To: Col. Bob
Aaaah! We are all going to die!!!

In less than 120 years, every man, woman and child now living on Earth will be dead!

Woman and minorities will be hardest hit.

It is all Bush's fault. Bush and those damned SUVs.

25 posted on 08/12/2008 7:20:24 AM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (DNC = Do Nothing Congress)
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To: Col. Bob
It's -15oC in the Artic during the summer. If it gets 4oC warmer, it's still -11oC.

The ice caps aren't going anywhere...

People like this are why we need to find a way to make stupidity terminal.

26 posted on 08/12/2008 7:22:59 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Dead Corpse

Earth is cooling not warming as the liberal mainstream media lies say:

http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2008/06/the-sunspot-mys.html

“He also noted that the world cooled quickly between January last year and January this year, by about 0.7C.

“This is the fastest temperature change in the instrumental record, and it puts us back to where we were in 1930,” Dr Chapman noted in The Australian recently.”


27 posted on 08/12/2008 7:26:43 AM PDT by rurgan (socialism doesn't work. Government is the problem not the solution to our problems.)
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To: Col. Bob

Not even Al Gore is nuts enough to predict this much global warming. Why are these obvious loonies even being given publicity?


28 posted on 08/12/2008 7:29:53 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: rurgan
Yep, I've seen that.

However, my point was that even 4oC isn't going to be an Extinction Level Event.

29 posted on 08/12/2008 7:31:39 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Col. Bob; AuntB; Jeff Head; SierraWasp

Of all the stupid, lame, attle-brained, idiotic writings! How can anyone be so stupid? Some people just make me want to go of the deep end...


30 posted on 08/12/2008 7:37:08 AM PDT by Issaquahking (Obama, Jimmy Carter 's act II. Different name, same game.....)
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To: mainerforglobalwarming
It’s in the 60’s today in the great state of Maine...

It was 57F here on top of the Cumberland Plateau of SE Tennessee this morning. Normally, it would be in the low 70's. Our projected high today will be in the mid 80's. Normally it would be in the mid 90's. The A/C is off, the windows are open and we are lovin' it!

31 posted on 08/12/2008 7:37:47 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Silence is not always a Sign of Wisdom, but Babbling is ever a Mark of Folly. - B. Franklin)
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To: Dead Corpse
" ... People like this are why we need to find a way to make stupidity terminal."


Years ago we allowed nature to take it's course with the stupid, and ignorant.

Now we protect, and enable them.


I'm with you. Put a bounty on stupid, and ignorant.

A free fill up with fuel for each one ought to put a dent in them.

32 posted on 08/12/2008 7:48:17 AM PDT by G.Mason (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: Col. Bob

Mega-engineering idea of the day: Why not purposely increase CO2 to the point where we actually do get some warming? Then we can add sulfates to jet fuel as needed to selectively cool the polar caps or wherever we want it colder. This is the same cloud cooling effect caused by volcanic eruptions. Based on the Earth’s history we WILL have an ice age eventually which would be davastating to humanity. The time will come when we need to control the Earth’s climate to our own advantage.


33 posted on 08/12/2008 7:51:33 AM PDT by darth
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To: Col. Bob
But the idea that we could adapt to a 4C rise is absurd and dangerous.

The earth's been 4C hotter since humans appeared and everything has been fine.
34 posted on 08/12/2008 7:56:52 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Col. Bob

It really is sad that we have a candidate in McCain who STILL supports this crap and has already stated that the science of Global Warming is settled.


35 posted on 08/12/2008 7:58:51 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (GOP: If you reward bad behavior all you get is more bad behavior.)
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To: Col. Bob
There is a concept in SCIENCE which is used to separate theory from fact. The proposer develops a hypothesis that is then tested against the real facts and then modified as needed until it matches the real world conditions. What escapes these zealots is that to date, not a single hypothesis of theirs, that I know of, can explain the real world CURRENT CONDITIONS and thus all of their predictions for the future become suspect.
36 posted on 08/12/2008 7:59:26 AM PDT by SES1066 (Cycling to conserve, Conservative to save, Saving to Retire, will Retire to Cycle.)
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To: Izzy Dunne
YOU hide the children, I'll hide the women.

Yes, you can 'hide' the women who would buy into this nonsense. . .like Nancy Pelosi and Cindy Sheehan. ;)

37 posted on 08/12/2008 8:02:02 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: brytlea

At this point, for the Libs, “Global Warming” just HAS to be true, facts be damned. If it isn’t, it means (a) Al Gore is wrong or (b) Al Gore is scamming them. Neither possibility is something they want to think about very much.


38 posted on 08/12/2008 8:15:59 AM PDT by JennysCool (A man who served his country well vs. a walking Che poster. Is it really that tough a choice?)
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To: Thermalseeker
It was 57F here on top of the Cumberland Plateau of SE Tennessee this morning. Normally, it would be in the low 70's. Our projected high today will be in the mid 80's. Normally it would be in the mid 90's. The A/C is off, the windows are open and we are lovin' it!

Ditto here in the Philly suburbs. We ought to be suffering through multiple 90 degree days, but I had to pull the covers up last night. My poor BIL is visiting from Orlando and he's about to go into hypothermic shock.

39 posted on 08/12/2008 8:17:25 AM PDT by topcat54 ("The selling of bad beer is a crime against Christian love.")
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To: topcat54

Aren’t 4C’s breadcrumbs?


40 posted on 08/12/2008 8:21:19 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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