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Where have all the real men gone?
The Times Online ^ | August 3, 2008 | Kathleen Parker

Posted on 08/06/2008 12:31:58 PM PDT by Publius804

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To: TheWasteLand
I wonder what the percentage of men under the age of 30 (or 40) who can change a tire is?

That's not a fair measure of a man.

Rather, what percentage of men under the age of 30 have a 12V impact wrench, a 120V impact wrench and a 4-way lug wrench along with a bottle jack, a floor jack and (for those out-of-the-way pneumatic interludes) a manual ratcheting-type jack?

21 posted on 08/06/2008 12:56:41 PM PDT by Knitebane (Happily Microsoft free since 1999.)
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To: SoftballMominVA

Raucous round of applause, a Guinness, and a kitten! Anoreth will have to find a man who’s stronger, tougher, smarter, and more religious than she is (*taller* will be the easy part :-), but I’m sure he’s out there. I’d just as soon she not be looking at 17, though.

Her past-tense “boyfriend” - two dates, one including their younger brothers - doesn’t know who the Vice President is. I can see why that faded :-).


22 posted on 08/06/2008 12:57:27 PM PDT by Tax-chick (When life gives you habaneros, make hot sauce!)
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To: envisio; Publius804
Well, I can tell you what its like to try and find good Scottish Highland Bagpipe Students these days. Only 2 out of 10 have the true grit to master the instrument. All of them have the intellectual capacity,and like the pipes, they just are wussy.If its not instant gratification, not interested. In decades passed 60% who started , mastered the instrument.

Our institutions wussy pip boys.

And when the become so called "men," they are "gurly men."

Can the estrogen and put it in with nuclear waste storage. Things are indeed out of balance.

At least we have 20% who are still able to become men, and genuine fathers. Any thing over that is a bonus these days.

23 posted on 08/06/2008 12:57:29 PM PDT by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, (Ridicule Obama))
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To: SoftballMominVA

It is just as easy to love a good looking woman. Trust me on this!!


24 posted on 08/06/2008 12:58:41 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Constantly choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil.)
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To: SoftballMominVA

Awesome. Families (FATHERS) really should protect their daughters from unworthy males seeking “partnership”.

As Voddie Baucham says, “you don’t even TALK to my daughter until I determine your worthiness as a husband. I’m not going to have you stealing her heart and THEN asking my permission to court her.”

Think about the side effect here, as well - males have to make themselves worthy instead of baggie pantsed Kurt Cobain wannabes.


25 posted on 08/06/2008 1:00:26 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: TheWasteLand
I wonder what the percentage of men under the age of 30 (or 40) who can change a tire is?

Roughly the same percentage as those who can safely clear a jammed weapon or gut a deer, about 20%. I had done all three and much more by my 13th birthday.

26 posted on 08/06/2008 1:01:00 PM PDT by CholeraJoe ("Space may be the final frontier, But it's made in a Hollywood basement")
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To: CholeraJoe
about 20%.

I agree ( post 23).

27 posted on 08/06/2008 1:02:45 PM PDT by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, (Ridicule Obama))
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To: Publius804
"The fact that some children manage with just one parent is no more an endorsement of single parenthood than driving with a flat tyre is an argument for three-wheeled cars. "

That's a good analogy -- except that there are some good arguments in favour of three-wheeled cars.
28 posted on 08/06/2008 1:03:26 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: MrB
“You don’t even TALK to my daughter until I determine your worthiness as a husband. I’m not going to have you stealing her heart and THEN asking my permission to court her.”

My daughter will skin him, stuff him, and post the trophy in the front yard, if necessary ... although her general stance is simply to ignore any males who aren't up to my standards.

29 posted on 08/06/2008 1:04:55 PM PDT by Tax-chick (When life gives you habaneros, make hot sauce!)
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To: mad_as_he$$
It is just as easy to love a good looking woman. Trust me on this!!>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

How True !!!

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30 posted on 08/06/2008 1:06:35 PM PDT by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, (Ridicule Obama))
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To: MrB
This is a political forum so we see even matters of sex through a political prism- at least some of us do, some of the time. I share the reaction of posters on this thread who find the whole business tiresome navelgazing, an endless analysis by women about "relationships."

But there are some pretty serious political implications to all of this navelgazing.

The political prism through which I judge the sociology of sex comes from an understanding of the Frankfurt School which was founded explicitly to undermine those features of Western civilization which acted to prevent the ultimate triumph of communism. These Marxist intellectuals identified several institutions such as nationalism and the church and, of course, the family. The family is of course the basic building block of society. If the family crumbles, everything disintegrates. One need only look at our inner cities to see illustrated the truth of this proposition.

If you can destroy it the figure of the father, you can destroy the family. If you can destroy the family you get Marxist utopia. Here is what Dr. Atkinson said in a fascinating lecture:

The Frankfurt School theorized that the authoritarian personality is a product of the patriarchal family. This idea is in turn directly connected to Frederich Engels' 'The Origins of the Family, Private Property and the State,' which promotes matriarchy. Furthermore, it was Karl Marx who wrote about the radical notion of a 'community of women' in the Communist manifesto. And it was Karl Marx who wrote disparagingly about the idea that the family was the basic unit of society in 'The German Ideology'of 1845.

The 'authoritarian personality' is not to be interpreted primarily as a handbook for the conduct of warfare against prejudice as such, but as a handbook for psychological warfare against the American male for the purpose of rendering him unwilling to defend traditional and formerly held beliefs and values. In other words, the purpose would be to emasculate him. Undoubtedly, this is what the Institute meant by 'psychological techniques for changing personality.'

'The Authoritarian personality,' studied by the Frankfurt School in the 1940s and 1950s in America, prepared the way for the subsequent warfare against the masculine gender promoted by Herbert Marcuse and his band of social revolutionaries under the guise of 'women's liberation' and the New Left movement in the 1960s. The evidence that psychological techniques for changing personality is intended to mean emasculation of the American male is provided by Abraham Maslow, founder of Third Force Humanist Psychology and promoter of the psychotherapeutic classroom, who wrote that, '...the next step in personal evolution is a transcendence of both masculinity and femininity to general humanness.' The Marxist revolutionaries knew exactly what they wanted to do and how to do it. They have succeeded in accomplishing much of their agenda.

You can read more of this fascinating lecture here:http://www.newtotalitarians.com/PsychicIronCagePartII.html


31 posted on 08/06/2008 1:08:40 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Publius804
"How is one ex-military and uber liberal?"

There are probably as many reasons for joining the military as there are people in the military. Most of course lean in the direction of service to their nation, gratitude, adventure, and self-realization. Sadly, there are some who do so for no reason other than pure ambition, and use the military as their stepping stone.


32 posted on 08/06/2008 1:08:54 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Publius804

this sounds like a case of Limbaugh Echo Syndrome to a degree...


33 posted on 08/06/2008 1:09:52 PM PDT by stefanbatory
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To: Publius804

The troubling outcome of all this is, the intelligent men are not marring and having children. Society will digress into a bunch of third worlders. There is nothing anybody can do to stop it. Thanks new women!


34 posted on 08/06/2008 1:10:30 PM PDT by totallyFREE
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To: Publius804

Sturgis


35 posted on 08/06/2008 1:11:28 PM PDT by clamper1797 (Nobama loves America like OJ loved Nicole)
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To: clamper1797

Good one!


36 posted on 08/06/2008 1:12:51 PM PDT by Tax-chick (When life gives you habaneros, make hot sauce!)
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To: Candor7

Never make a pretty woman your wife ...


37 posted on 08/06/2008 1:13:08 PM PDT by clamper1797 (Nobama loves America like OJ loved Nicole)
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To: Citizen Blade

Ditto. I’m in Seattle, and I know great fathers of every political stripe - the area is not as universally liberal as people seem to think. I see no shortage of good men raising good kids. And I bet every one can change a tire.


38 posted on 08/06/2008 1:14:29 PM PDT by blowfish
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To: clamper1797

Looking for a wife? Here’s the standard:

Proverbs 31:10.

Also, watch her relationship with her father - if she’s not respectful to him, she won’t be respectful to you.


39 posted on 08/06/2008 1:15:12 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Publius804
How is one ex-military and uber liberal? I suppose it happens, but I’m sure it’s rare.

I don't have any real insight on it. He served in the Army right out of college, but now works for a Democratic Senator on the Hill.

40 posted on 08/06/2008 1:15:36 PM PDT by Citizen Blade ("Please... I go through everyone's trash." The Question)
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