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Where have all the real men gone?
The Times Online ^ | August 3, 2008 | Kathleen Parker

Posted on 08/06/2008 12:31:58 PM PDT by Publius804

From The Sunday Times

August 3, 2008

Where have all the real men gone?

Top American columnist Kathleen Parker is causing a furore with her new book Save the Males, in which she argues that feminism has neutered men and deprived them of their noble, protective role in society

I know. Saving the males is an unlikely vocation for a 21st-century woman. Most men don’t know they need saving; most women consider the idea absurd. When I tell my women friends that I want to save the males, they look at me as if noticing for the first time that I am insane. Then they say something like: “Are you out of your mind? This is still a male-dominated world. It’s women who need saving. Screw the men!”

(Excerpt) Read more at entertainment.timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: bookreview; feminism; kathleenparker; men; savethemales; women
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1 posted on 08/06/2008 12:31:58 PM PDT by Publius804
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To: Publius804

I ain’t got the strength to type on another “wussification of men” thread.
I’ll just say it makes me sick and leave it at that.


3 posted on 08/06/2008 12:35:52 PM PDT by envisio (If you ain't laughin yet... you ain't seen me naked. 8^O)
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To: Publius804; wardaddy
90% of them seem to be in Iraq and Afghanistan. The other 10% are largely over 65.

As WD already knows, I am more concerned with the emasculation of the American male (or western male in general) than I am in any "decline in religious influence." Political correctness and the legal system (to say nothing of single mothers) have succeeded where biology has not: neutering the male, leading to a confused gender that knows neither his traditional responsibilities, nor any other option than making the best of a challenging situation by taking the easy way out.

4 posted on 08/06/2008 12:36:06 PM PDT by Clemenza (McCain/Palin; Maverick and the MILF)
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To: envisio

Take your mind back - I dont know when
Sometime when it always seemed
To be just us and them
Girls that wore pink
And boys that wore blue
Boys that always grew up better men
Than me and you

Whats a man now - whats a man mean
Is he rough or is he rugged
Is he cultural and clean
Now its all change - its got to change more
cause we think its getting better
But nobodys really sure

And so it goes - go round again
But now and then we wonder who the real men are

See the nice boys - dancing in pairs
Golden earring golden tan
Blow-wave in the hair
Sure theyre all straight - straight as a line
All the gays are macho
Cant you see their leather shine

You dont want to sound dumb - dont want to offend
So dont call me a faggot
Not unless you are a friend
Then if youre tall and handsome and strong
You can wear the uniform and I could play along

And so it goes - go round again
But now and then we wonder who the real men are

Time to get scared - time to change plan
Dont know how to treat a lady
Dont know how to be a man
Time to admit - what you call defeat
cause theres women running past you now
And you just drag your feet

Man makes a gun - man goes to war
Man can kill and man can drink
And man can take a whore
Kill all the blacks - kill all the reds
And if theres war between the sexes
Then therell be no people left

And so it goes - go round again
But now and then we wonder who the real men are


5 posted on 08/06/2008 12:37:25 PM PDT by Clemenza (McCain/Palin; Maverick and the MILF)
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To: Publius804

Where have all the real men gone?

After real women.


6 posted on 08/06/2008 12:38:07 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Obamuh uh uh uh uh uh uh ummmmmm)
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To: Publius804

“Screw the men!”

OK, if that’s what they REALLY want...


7 posted on 08/06/2008 12:38:28 PM PDT by henkster (Politics is the art of telling a bigger and more believable lie more often than your opponent)
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To: Publius804

Dear, DEAR senior men. Your premium just went up as husbands. MEN...it’s all a matter of supply and demand.


8 posted on 08/06/2008 12:39:07 PM PDT by bannie
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To: envisio

darn. you put out the best posts on these threads too :)


9 posted on 08/06/2008 12:42:18 PM PDT by absolootezer0 ( Detroit: we're so bad, even our mayor is a criminal)
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To: Publius804

Where have all the thin ladies gone?


10 posted on 08/06/2008 12:44:14 PM PDT by T. Jefferson
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To: envisio
On vacation last week, our family (2 girls - 18 and 21) told their dad they would only marry a real man like him and if he told them their boyfriend was a pansy, they'd drop him like a hot potato.

Real men raise real women who will only settle for the genuine article.

11 posted on 08/06/2008 12:45:39 PM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: T. Jefferson

To some of the Girly Men.


12 posted on 08/06/2008 12:46:00 PM PDT by unkus
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To: T. Jefferson

Real men don’t judge women on looks alone. Looks fade, character stays.


13 posted on 08/06/2008 12:46:34 PM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: SoftballMominVA

Amen to that. Real men are real fathers.


14 posted on 08/06/2008 12:46:42 PM PDT by Publius804
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To: Publius804
I wonder what the percentage of men under the age of 30 (or 40) who can change a tire is?

It's a very simple, traditionally male activity, that 50 years ago would have been nearly 100%. I'll bet today it's a lot lower than most would think.

15 posted on 08/06/2008 12:48:52 PM PDT by TheWasteLand
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To: Publius804

I look around at my guy friends and see them mostly married with kids, with good jobs, all involved members of their community. Just the type of men society needs.

And, the thing is, these guys run the gamut from uber-liberal to Attila the Hun conservative (and the most liberal and most conservative two guys are both ex-military).

So, I don’t really see the crisis, to tell you the truth. Hollywood can take its lame little pot-shots at men, but who really cares?


16 posted on 08/06/2008 12:52:13 PM PDT by Citizen Blade ("Please... I go through everyone's trash." The Question)
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To: SoftballMominVA
Real men don’t judge women on looks alone. Looks fade, character stays.

My late grandfather used to say, "Kissin' don't last. Cookin' do."

17 posted on 08/06/2008 12:53:44 PM PDT by Knitebane (Happily Microsoft free since 1999.)
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To: Clemenza
I am more concerned with the emasculation of the American male (or western male in general) than I am in any "decline in religious influence."

They are the same problem. Our traditional society is based on the roles of men and women as laid out in our religious traditions.

Feminists have been the tools of evil in the destruction of the family by denigrating traditional roles and the authority of ("patriarchal") scripture.

18 posted on 08/06/2008 12:54:22 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Citizen Blade

How is one ex-military and uber liberal? I suppose it happens, but I’m sure it’s rare.


19 posted on 08/06/2008 12:55:47 PM PDT by Publius804
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To: Publius804

“Save the Males”? Give me a break. Mrs. Parker has written some good stuff, but this ain’t it.

The simple fact is that when we men have had enough of this mess, it’ll change. Yes, of course it’s still a male-dominated world. That’s the way God designed it, and to struggle against it is an exercise in futility.

Like every other point of dispute, the final recourse of the disputants is force. But most men (allah-cultists excluded) are inclined to endure a great deal of ridicule and abuse and never resort to force.

When we’ve had enough, we have many other means of addressing the problem. For us men, it hasn’t reached that point yet. But apparently it has for Mrs. Parker.


20 posted on 08/06/2008 12:56:26 PM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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