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I'll take some onion rings instead of fries with that burger, Jonathan. Oh, and lots of ketchup...
1 posted on 08/06/2008 2:39:53 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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But I have a more noble reason, too: a genuine, altruistic desire for an educated citizenry. Not to be old-fashioned, but there are certain kinds of important stories that simply cannot be covered, except by deep-pocketed traditional media organizations employing professional journalists.

Such as the NYT??? Read the National Enquirer. NE at least objective, and I don't think in danger of going broke.

32 posted on 08/06/2008 4:17:37 AM PDT by stevem
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The media won’t go away, but it will be transformed. The result will be healthier, smaller, slimmer and more agile. Sort of like what happened to the defense industry in 1991-2000.


35 posted on 08/06/2008 4:27:29 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (His Negritude has made his negritude the central theme of this campaign)
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“you’ll miss us when we’re gone.”

sure. just as pravda and izvestia were missed by hard-core, self-appointed, brilliant intellectual party members.


36 posted on 08/06/2008 4:30:53 AM PDT by ripley
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I read leftist newspapers and come away with an impression that they embrace three major themes -

1) You’re stupid.

2) We hate you and your hard-earned wealth and natural liberties.

3) Get on your knees, slave, and be fitted for chains.

Did I miss any?


37 posted on 08/06/2008 4:34:51 AM PDT by sergeantdave (We are entering the Age of the Idiot)
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“altruistic desire for an educated citizenry...”

translation: “my desire for an indoctrinated and propagandized electorate would be frustrated. un-biased information would set the leftist movement behind...”


38 posted on 08/06/2008 4:36:36 AM PDT by ripley
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To the author:

But I have a more noble reason, too: a genuine, altruistic desire for an educated citizenry.

Then why are you and so many mediots like you so astoundingly LIBERAL?

The media's job is to INFORM, not "educate", dirtbag. The bloggers are the only ones now that will present all sides - because they are willing to admit their point of view, not hide it behind a false veil of objectivity.

Now repeat after me, "Would you like that super-sized?"

39 posted on 08/06/2008 4:37:23 AM PDT by MortMan (Those who stand for nothing fall for anything. - Alexander Hamilton)
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“but i have a more noble reason too: a genuine, altruistic desire for an educated citizenry.”

ben franklin could not have said it better, but he ain’t no ben franklin.


41 posted on 08/06/2008 4:45:53 AM PDT by ripley
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The obvious reason is self-interest: If freebie blogs and news aggregators kill off the National Post and its ilk, then I'm going to have to go back to my high school job, manning the drive-thru at McDonald's.

By his own admission, if he lost his job as a reporter, the only other thing he is qualified to do is man the drive-thru at McDonald's.

And he would probably screw up every other order doing that.

44 posted on 08/06/2008 4:50:35 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat; but they know what's best for us)
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This thought struck me with particular force on Sunday, as I read "Malwebolence," Mattathias Schwartz's extraordinary article about Internet trolls in this week's issue of The New York Times Magazine.

The "Malwebolence " article is a perfect example of why not to trust the MSM. The idiot writer was obviously pwned into writing about a fictional term called 'lulz' which is supposedly a measure of a troll's effectiveness.

I was listening to the TWIT This Week In Tech) podcast last week when this article was discussed, and none of the TWITs had ever heard of the term 'lulz'. The conclusion is that the writer was fed a line of hokum as a joke, and being the Times, printed the story. Why would the Times writer do this? Because in his heart, the writer wanted it to be true. MSM writers like Mattathias Schwartz see the great unwashed writing on the internet as a threat to his once 'noble' profession.

46 posted on 08/06/2008 4:56:27 AM PDT by 6SJ7
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also, I’d say 98% of the trolls on-line are liberals nowadays.


49 posted on 08/06/2008 5:13:49 AM PDT by fnord (If gun owners, pot smokers, and poker players start a political party, they'd never lose an election)
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“You’ll miss us when we’re gone.”

I think the salient point is they went off the edge a long time ago - they’re “already gone”.. Hm.


50 posted on 08/06/2008 5:27:32 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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"You'll miss us when we're gone"

How can I miss you if you won't go away?

51 posted on 08/06/2008 5:28:36 AM PDT by GBA
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. . . there are certain kinds of important stories that simply cannot be covered, except by deep-pocketed traditional media organizations employing professional journalists.

Like The New Republic's embedded soldier who made up US atrocities in Iraq? How many columns did they print before they were called out? Where were the "professional" editors to vet the clown?

54 posted on 08/06/2008 5:44:29 AM PDT by Jacquerie (The New Republic - Every bit as reputable as CBS News)
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"If freebie blogs and news aggregators kill off the National Post and its ilk, then I'm going to have to go back to my high school job, manning the drive-thru at McDonald's."

But that's what most Leftists are qualified for.

The rest, of course, are qualified for jobs as mafia hitmen...oops!...hitpersons or maybe... What else is a sociopath qualified for? President-for-Life in a Third World Country--okay--but most of those jobs are already taken.

57 posted on 08/06/2008 5:55:16 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Today Pelosi's going to save the planet. Last week she was Joan of Arc.)
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Maybe the DNC needs more writers?? Course how hard is it to say the gummit can solve that?

PRay for W and OUr Troops


59 posted on 08/06/2008 6:13:12 AM PDT by bray (Drill Congress!!)
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Jonathan takes a minute to look up from his self-absorbed navel-gazing and say...

"HEY!! I AM IMPORTANT, TOO! Really! I've got things to say. Like how pointless bloggers are. So pointless that I'll take time out to interview them and then take up newsprint+electrons to write about them. But enough about them, let's talk about ME!"

60 posted on 08/06/2008 6:19:04 AM PDT by wbill
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Not to be old-fashioned, but there are certain kinds of important stories that simply cannot be covered, except by deep-pocketed traditional media organizations employing professional journalists.

Like who should be winning an election?

Like what Obama MEANT to say?

Like Obama's European Vacation?

Like how a Republican reportedly said MACACA?

Like the money it takes to forge National Guard memos, coordinate with the DNC, and fax them from Texas?

Or maybe he's talking about helicopter coverage of car chases that last 2 hours.

61 posted on 08/06/2008 6:21:11 AM PDT by weegee (Hi there.)
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You probably have met an Internet troll -- even if you don't know the term. They are the juvenile cretins who infest Internet message boards, taunting the earnest types chatting away about Gossip Girl, or Barack Obama, or Scientology. Their method is to post willfully ignorant, insulting messages, then sit back and enjoy the righteous, impotent fury aroused among the true believers.

Trolling is an inherently nihilistic activity -- which is why most trolls tend to be adolescent males,

Trolling was and is a part of the Undemocratic Party win strategy...

Punk the prez? - Moby's anti-Bush tricks (Beware of the Moby Dicks) (New York Daily News 2/09/04 Rush & Molloy)

One of Sen. John Kerry's celebrity supporters is ready to pull out all the stops to get him elected. Republicans are shrieking over a suggestion by rocker Moby that Democrats spread gossip about President Bush on the Internet. "No one's talking about how to keep the other side home on Election Day," Moby tells us. "It's a lot easier than you think and it doesn't cost that much. This election can be won by 200,000 votes." Moby suggests that it's possible to seed doubt among Bush's far-right supporters on the Web.

"You target his natural constituencies," says the Grammy-nominated techno-wizard. "For example, you can go on all the pro-life chat rooms and say you're an outraged right-wing voter and that you know that George Bush drove an ex-girlfriend to an abortion clinic and paid for her to get an abortion.

"Then you go to an anti-immigration Web site chat room and ask, 'What's all this about George Bush proposing amnesty for illegal aliens?'"

Moby didn't claim that he believed the abortion story...

[snip]

Kerry spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter said, "I doubt that Moby was suggesting anybody suppress the vote. We did not use any dirty tactics against any candidate.


62 posted on 08/06/2008 6:26:59 AM PDT by weegee (Hi there.)
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Notice the author compares Barack Obama to Gossip Girl and Scientology. I wonder if he did that because he thought they were popular? Maybe like Brittney Spears and Paris Hilton?


65 posted on 08/06/2008 6:34:07 AM PDT by spacewarp (Gun control is a tight cluster grouping in the chest and one in the forehead.)
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Holden: If the buzz is any indicator, that movie's gonna make some huge bank.

Jay: What buzz?

Holden: The Internet buzz.

Jay: What the f*** is the Internet?

Holden: The Internet is a communication tool used the world over where people can come together to b**** about movies and share pornography with one another.

< /Jay And Silent Bob Strike Back >

Big media doesn't like it when you talk back.

66 posted on 08/06/2008 6:38:54 AM PDT by weegee (Hi there.)
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