Posted on 08/05/2008 7:20:42 AM PDT by pissant
Independent analysts, working separately, have discovered that the original Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth used in the fabrication of the Barack Obama "birth certificate" belongs to the Presidential candidate's younger half-sister, Maya.
Examining the high resolution image originally posted by the "Daily Kos" left-wing blog and subsequently claimed as authentic by the campaign, and posted in lower resolution on the campaign official "Fight the Smears" website, at least two analysts have been able to independently discern the name "Maya Kassandra Soetoro" from artifacts left behind in the process of forging a new fake document for Barack from an image of Maya's original document. Additional confirmatory information, such as her birthday and the nationality of her father have also been resurrected. A full report documenting all details is to be published in the coming days.
The dramatic development comes just a day after a forensic specialist, posting on the Texas Darling blog under the name Techdude (his real name is known to Israel Insider), announced the discovery of the identity of the original owner of the COLB document used in the forgery but would initially only indicate that it was a woman born in the 1970's. However, he provided enough clues to enable another graphic specialist (screen name KG) to independently reproduce the incriminating evidence. (Techdude had said that he wanted to give the guilty parties time to confess to the forgery, but also to allow independent confirmation of his discovery. He even offered to pay for a trip to Vegas to the first person to discover the name and detail the method by which it was discovered.)
According to Texas Darling, which exclusively published these latest revelations, there is more to come: "In the coming days, Techdude will provide a final report that fully discloses his discovery, and provides all the fancy technical data, images, formulae etc. that everyone has come to expect. He will respond to questions posted on this blog to the best of his ability. (NOTE: KG has asked Techdude to donate the trip funds to help retire Hillary's debt, and Techdude has agreed.)" In the meantime, KG has posted details on how artifacts of the name "Maya Kassandra Soetero" were discerned.
The revelation that the COLB of Obama's own sister was evidently used to create the electronic forgery represents a "smoking gun" that appears to implicate Senator Obama directly. Hawaii law limits access to vital records to family members only, a fact which slowed down the ability of researchers to compare the purported Obama "birth certificate" -- which displayed from the start a peculiar provenance and inexplicable features -- to genuine specimens. Therefore, it would seem that either Maya K. Soetoro-Ng (as she is now called) supplied the document or its image to half-brother Barack or his campaign, or Obama/his campaign used it without her permission.
It appears unlikely, to say the least, that the campaign would have independently managed to obtain Maya's COLB, forged Barak's fake COLB using Maya's original, and verified the result as genuine without the candidate's knowledge and involvement. This is particularly true given the high profile treatment with which the campaign has treated the purported veracity of the supposed "birth certificate" in its Fight the Smears website. The apparent use of the Soetero document increases the likelihood of direct Obama involvement in the supply, production, and/or propagation of the forgery.
The stakes couldn't be higher. Even the Snopes anti-rumor site acknowledges that Obama's constitutional fitness to be president depends solely on his being born in the United States, because his mother -- not yet 19 at the time of his birth -- would not have had a sufficient number of years as an adult citizen, according to the laws prevailing at the time, to pass on "natural born citizenship" automatically.
There have been reports, so far unconfirmed, that Obama was born outside the country, either in Kenya, his presumed father's native land, or in Canada. The fact that the Obama campaign has been touting as genuine a forgery since June 12 will likely increase pressure to not only account for the fake but produce a genuine paper birth certificate. Obama, in his book Dreams from My Father, specifically mentioned having such a document in his possession, but it has not been submitted for public inspection or analysis if it in fact exists.
Intriguingly, too, Maya Soetoro-Ng is believed to have been born outside the United States, in Indonesia, so her apparent ownership of a Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth raises questions about how such a document was produced for an Indonesian-born girl. That, too, may shed light on Barack Obama's citizenship status and his ability, or inability, to document it.
Ironically, but perhaps not coincidentally, the Obama campaign has challenged the credentials of Republican opponent John McCain, because he makes no secret of being born out of the country, in Panama. But both of McCain's parents were Americans so, unlike Obama, are by statute able to pass on natural born citizen status to their foreign-born child.
There isn't any real evidence that Obama was born anywhere other than Hawaii. There has been some unsupported speculation that his birth certificate was forged, or that he was born in Kenya, then smuggled into the US or whatever.
This whole thing is a waste of time- Obama is a socialist empty-suit who is completely unqualified to be President. Trying the Hail-Mary approach of trying to prove he was born in Kenya or some such other nonsense just makes people look foolish.
Oops, I mean Isreal Times. Sorry.
The implications of this are staggering.
Obama himself was likely involved with this fraud.
Are we going to let a little thing like the U.S. Constitution get in the way of the coronation of the Obamessiah?
Good work, guys! Persistence will pay off!
And got pregnant twice by two different men, unmarried both times.
Okay help me out here. If Odumbo is involved in this forgery, aren’t there indictments that can be laid at his feet for said forgery????? Isn’t this a felony???
And at the very least can’t the word be put out that a ‘candidate’ who will forge COLB documents isn’t fit for the oval office? What else will he ‘forge’ as President??
Of course getting the MSM to do their job and actually begin reporting on this tarnished halo of their sainted one is also expecting pigs to fly.............
Boot The TooT!
Even the Snopes anti-rumor site acknowledges that Obama's constitutional fitness to be president depends solely on his being born in the United States, because his mother -- not yet 19 at the time of his birth -- would not have had a sufficient number of years as an adult citizen, according to the laws prevailing at the time, to pass on "natural born citizenship" automatically.
No, I don’t the did. He hasn’t actually became a candidate yet. And the states control who is on the ballot.
Matter of fact, he chose to not take federal funds as the FEC would have had to verify his eligilibity before allowing him the funds.
Interesting, eh? How many candidates turn down campaign funds?
You’re not SE Mom.
There has been some unsupported speculation that his birth certificate was forged
You might want to spend a bit more time reading through all the experts findings on this....and this thread article...before announcing that you think this is all “unsupported speculation”.
Just sayin’
Have you heard Bill’s only statement in two months regarding the election?
“I think anyone should be able to run, whose constitutionally eligible.”
Notice that last part, ha!
I thought that at first, too, but the answer is no. There’s a legal technicality relating to the number of years BHO’s mother lived in the US, her age, etc., that would make him a non-citizen if not born on US soil.
Not that I know of. Until he gets nominated, his qualification questions wrests with the DNC.
After nomination I don't know if there is a boilerplate requirement by federal or state election authorities to present Presidential qualification documents, IE: birth certificate to satisfy age and natural born status. Until this year it has never been questioned, now we will have 2 who were born outside the US proper.
If a candidate can raise more than $80Million, then it is in his best interest to turn down federal campaign funds. If you take them, you are limited on spending $80Million for the campaign. Obama has raised about $250Million, so turning Federal funds down allows him to spend more.
Yes, he can. He decided to not take federal funds for campaign as the FEC would have to prove his eligibility first.
Also, he was adopted by his Indonesian stepfather or he couldn’t have been able to go to school there. As he did.
Also, he took a trip to Pakistan in 1981. No one that wasn’t muslim could enter Pakistan and certainly no one American. Before going to Pakistan, he made a stop to Indonesia. He had from the age of 18-21 to accept Indonesian citizenship. That would have also shown him as Muslim. That is the only way I know he could have gotten in.
And as I’ve said before, what does a “working through college” student have to go Pakistan? Especially during the times in 1981?
Maybe I’m missing something here, but even if it turns out Obama was born in a foreign country, would it not be irrelevent as his mother was an American citizen and hence, so would he ?
“But both of McCain’s parents were Americans so, unlike Obama, are by statute able to pass on natural born citizen status to their foreign-born child.”
And, BTW, were only there because his father was on military orders. My daughter’s got a Certificate of Birth Abroad, having also been born at Ancon Hospital in the old Canal Zone while I was on military orders, and she could be prez if she wanted to. Lord, I hope not - I already have to pay for weddings, I can’t afford a run at the brass ring, too!
Colonel, USAFR
I have learned that those struck by the power bug will do anything to get more power, but wouldn’t someone else have verified this? Could it be that he was supposed to just be a “token” candidate and now that the media has fallen in love they hoped to overlook this little small detail? I don’t know, I just can’t imagine it getting this far. But this leaves....Hillary....
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