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Shocker: Obama's "birth certificate" forged with sister Maya's original
Israeli Insider ^ | 8/5/08 | staff

Posted on 08/05/2008 7:20:42 AM PDT by pissant

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To: autumnraine
The issue was initially about birth here or abroad, but has now uncovered the possibility, very very good possibility that he is a dual citizen of Indonesia due the adoption of his stepfather.

Why is that an issue? His obtaining dual citizenship through his father is completely irrelevant to his eligibility to run for President.

If he is a dual, not eligible for POTUS.

There is nothing preventing a natural-born American citizen who is also a citizen of another country from running for President. My kids will be dual-citizens from birth because I am a dual Canadian/American citizen, but they will be eligible to run for President.

121 posted on 08/05/2008 8:10:36 AM PDT by Citizen Blade ("Please... I go through everyone's trash." The Question)
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To: Citizen Blade

According to Judah, he has spoken with a Hawaii tech person in the Hawaii government (would have to research to get exactly) and he said “There is no way this came from us”. Now we can’t compare with uneducated eyes, these are people who study computers and what they can do for a living.


122 posted on 08/05/2008 8:10:51 AM PDT by autumnraine
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Well I know his father wasn’t an American, but I’m at a loss to understand what his mother’s age has to do with anything. Was his mother not a native-born American ? If so, he’d still technically be an American citizen even if born on foreign soil (unless she had renounced her citizenship).

No... I don't have the statute handy but I bet someone will post it.

123 posted on 08/05/2008 8:11:36 AM PDT by Sloth (A domestic enemy of the Constitution will become POTUS on January 20, 2009.)
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This is really getting interesting!


124 posted on 08/05/2008 8:11:38 AM PDT by tiredoflaundry
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To: Citizen Blade

“We know nothing about them or the processes they used to come to their conclusions”

I’m sorry, but that is just false. We know quite a bit about techdude and even MORE about his processes since he has documented them through pages and pages of explanations and direct photos. Maybe you should check them out on texasdarlin’s site???


125 posted on 08/05/2008 8:11:48 AM PDT by battletank
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To: pissant
Obama had better hope the Democrats don't pull a repeat of "The Torricelli Maneuver".

They could snatch his name from the nomination in an instant....and they've already had practice at doing so.

126 posted on 08/05/2008 8:12:20 AM PDT by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
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To: nana4bush

That IS interesting.


127 posted on 08/05/2008 8:12:30 AM PDT by txhurl
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To: Heartland Mom

Doubtful- the certificate has already been released. If it is not a certificate issued by the State of Hawaii, or has been illegally altered, then there is no privacy violation in them pointing out that this is not a legitimate document.


128 posted on 08/05/2008 8:12:32 AM PDT by Citizen Blade ("Please... I go through everyone's trash." The Question)
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To: Citizen Blade
Maybe, but I think the average reporter is both intellectually & physically lazy!
His professional & political instincts are to follow the crowd, particularly if the crowd is made up of the right “people”. These are the “beautiful people” who are the “popular opinion” makers(e.g. the “glitteratti” & the “political Illuminati”.) They are not & I repeat not Republicans, conservatives or any such troglodytes!
So if Obama does have constitutional qualification problems, it would not surprise that the ladies & gentlemen of the press are disinterested. In fact as I have said previously in this forum, the press's first reaction will be to try and “explain it away” as a “mere technicality” and a “relic of our racist past”. I also think that no one will have the cajones to do anything about it. The question will remain, “will it matter to the American electorate come election day?”.
129 posted on 08/05/2008 8:13:28 AM PDT by Reily
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To: autumnraine

so what you are saying is that somewhere out there there is a foreign country with Barak H. Obama’s name on a birth cirtificate.

That is what needs to be found.


130 posted on 08/05/2008 8:13:34 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: autumnraine; Citizen Blade
According to Judah, he has spoken with a Hawaii tech person in the Hawaii government...

Bingo. I remember reading somewhere in all of these threads a link to an Hawaii spokesperson who DID come out and say this certificate did not come from them.

131 posted on 08/05/2008 8:13:43 AM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: Citizen Blade

I don’t think Techdude has made his case at all.

http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2008/08/truth-about-fake-birth-certificate.html

I also hate to defend Obama, but no one has even come close to showing that the COLB is a forgery, imo.

Techdude’s very first photo example seems to be incorrect. He seems to claim that the end of a diagonal line is a remnant of a missing vertical line.

http://texasdarlin.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/map_r02_c041.jpg


132 posted on 08/05/2008 8:15:41 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: pissant

Regardless of the repercussions it would create within the dem party and the rest of the American left, I find it hard to believe that Hillary would not have been all over this situation a long time ago. With her power, money and connections its also hard to believe that she would not have been able to bribe someone in the Hawaiian govt to get an original copy of the “phony” certificate, or the real cert. showing his birth outside of the US. It sounds like this whole story is a case of wishful thinking. Of course, I certainly don’t put such breathtaking dishonesty past the Obamessiah or the dem. party. It’s what they both live on.


133 posted on 08/05/2008 8:15:56 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: autumnraine

I think they said “We can’t tell if it came from us without the certification numbers”.


134 posted on 08/05/2008 8:16:10 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: autumnraine
According to Judah, he has spoken with a Hawaii tech person in the Hawaii government (would have to research to get exactly) and he said “There is no way this came from us”. Now we can’t compare with uneducated eyes, these are people who study computers and what they can do for a living.

And we have no way of confirming this statement. If it is clear to people in Hawaii government that this is a forgery, why aren't they speaking up?

135 posted on 08/05/2008 8:17:00 AM PDT by Citizen Blade ("Please... I go through everyone's trash." The Question)
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To: Citizen Blade

They are not annonymous many people know who they are, and if you read the article and saw the proof then you know it is a fake document. Besides that, fake or not, Obamaosama has yet to prove he is eligible to run for office of President and it is up to him to prove. As I said I don’t think you have good reading comprehension skills. From the way you talk, here and on other threads, trying to discourage any investigation into Obama’s background I would think you want to get him elected. I hope all the states ask this a**hat of a candidate for proof of his eligibility to run and even if only half of them find him not eligible, that will take his butt out of the race. Here’s hoping!


136 posted on 08/05/2008 8:17:20 AM PDT by calex59
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To: autumnraine

Didn’t he call his Grandmother a racist.Remember this was early 60’s. How would she feel about her daughter having a baby with a black man. Wouldnt she demand/rush her daughter back to US territory (Hawaii) to get that COLB. Bad enough if he was born out of country. As far as the sister’s connection to the BC/COLB I just can’t put that together. Who are her parents (mother)If she was born elsewhere, why take her to Hawaii to get a COLB? So many questions. NO answers.


137 posted on 08/05/2008 8:17:25 AM PDT by MarineMom613 (My son is My Hero!!!)
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To: old and cranky
I guess I am just waiting for Techdude to show his findings. I am not saying it isn’t possible. I notice that it is Hillary’s people pushing this.

Actually he has shown enough of them already but he is preparing a complete report. The graphics I have seen clearly show this COLB posted on KOS to be a fake and to be that of his sister. Which is strange to say the least. We will just have to wait and see what happens, but the main thing is this: Fake document or not, Obama has yet to prove he was born in Hawaii and it is up to him to prove it, not up to the people to prove either way.

Of course Hillary's people are pushing this, the whole website of TexasDarlling is a Hillary hot bed. Let me ask you, wouldn't you push it if you were Hillary and in such a way you could say you were not really involved in exposing this?

Hillary won't win if she gets the nomination, but Obama would be crushed forever and that is what I am hoping for.

138 posted on 08/05/2008 8:21:40 AM PDT by calex59
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To: fieldmarshaldj; DrewsMum

Here’s some information that sheds light on the matter:

http://immigration.findlaw.com/immigration/immigration-citizenship-naturalization/immigration-citizenship-naturalization-did-you-know(1).html

Law in effect at the time only granted natural-born citizenship to a child of one American parent born overseas IF that parent had resided at least ten years in the U.S., of which five had to be after the age of 16 — i.e., Ann Dunham was not old enough to automatically confer citizenship on her son.


139 posted on 08/05/2008 8:21:57 AM PDT by Sloth (A domestic enemy of the Constitution will become POTUS on January 20, 2009.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

I’ve said all along Hillary will be the nominee since some blockbuster (whatever it is) will come out this month before the convention, or DURING the convention.

She’s only SUSPENDED her campaign, and is waiting in the wings..


140 posted on 08/05/2008 8:22:43 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (I'm a Patriot Guard Rider. www.patriotguard.org for info.)
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