Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Strong Productivity Defies Trend (Worst economy since Great Depression! - no wait...)
The Wall Street Journal ^ | August 4, 2008 | Brian Blackstone

Posted on 08/03/2008 3:48:45 PM PDT by abb

Recessions don't usually look like this, at least when it comes to productivity.

In the six U.S. recessions since 1970, worker productivity, or output per hour, grew a sluggish 0.8%, on average. But since the end of last year, even amid economic weakness, productivity is estimated to have grown an average 2.5% at an annual rate.

That defies productivity's usual behavior of going "up in good times and down in bad times," says Georgia State University forecaster Rajeev Dhawan.

Productivity's path isn't just an academic debate. That productivity is staying strong even in bad times has big implications for economic growth, inflation, employment and, ultimately, living standards. For example, strong productivity growth, by countering inflation pressures from energy and commodities, allows the Fed to keep interest rates lower than it otherwise might, helping it stoke the economy.

But "it's a bit of a two-edged sword," said Chris Varvares of Macroeconomic Advisers, since efficiency gains could mean that companies can get by with fewer workers, exacerbating unemployment in the short run.

Some economists say that the current healthy growth in productivity reflects a shift in the economy from less productive domestic sectors like home building and into exporting industries, which tend to be highly efficient. That shift has been aided by the weak dollar, which has made U.S. exports more competitive.

"It's a compositional story," said Dale Jorgenson, a productivity expert at Harvard University. Productivity, he explained, is "languid" in construction, so the decline of building as a share of the economy in recent quarters "is certainly going to be positive for productivity" on average.

snip

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: economics; economy; recession; useconomy
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-24 next last
Obviously more cooked government numbers...
1 posted on 08/03/2008 3:48:45 PM PDT by abb
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Perdogg

How can this be ping.


2 posted on 08/03/2008 3:49:17 PM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: abb

How much longer will foreigners want to buy America’s debt?
What happens after they own it all?
Want to burn some money to keep warm?


3 posted on 08/03/2008 3:53:54 PM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publici scholae)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Toddsterpatriot; Mase; expat_panama
"In the long run, we are all doomed."
--John Maynard Keynes [paraphrase]
4 posted on 08/03/2008 3:54:21 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: sam_paine; gridlock

y’all come.


5 posted on 08/03/2008 3:55:28 PM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: abb

I guess the WSJ didn’t get the memo from the Ministry of Truth: If it doesn’t fit the Narrative, then it’s not news.


6 posted on 08/03/2008 3:57:18 PM PDT by TheWasteLand
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TheWasteLand

Must have had a network breakdown. Or maybe this was a story planted by us BushBots...


7 posted on 08/03/2008 3:59:15 PM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: 1rudeboy
a shift in the economy from less productive domestic sectors like home building and into exporting industries, which tend to be highly efficient.

Shhhhh.

8 posted on 08/03/2008 4:10:21 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Half the time it could seem funny, the other half's just too sad.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: All

Productivity will grow if fewer people are working and the output is the same

Not really a telling stat...since the debt is still very high and the trade deficit is so high it makes Third Worlders laugh at us.

The weak dollar is good for US exports....but what exports? Everything I see is “Made in China”. So few things are made in the USA anymore. Heck, now the US IMPORTS food....where before the US was a net exporter.


9 posted on 08/03/2008 4:29:26 PM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (McBama....Over 300 Million Screwed)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: UCFRoadWarrior
So few things are made in the USA anymore

This seems to be a mantra but one I dont see it. Every company I that I have recently visited with a couple of exceptions are doing extremely well. Case, CAT, Cummins, John Deere, Electro-Motive. Of course they are selling in India, and China too.

10 posted on 08/03/2008 4:44:18 PM PDT by 03A3
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: UCFRoadWarrior
Productivity will grow if fewer people are working and the output is the same

Or even if it declines. Say I employ five workers; sales go down 10%. I fire one of my workers and produce 90% of my former output with 80% of my former workforce. Productivity increases by 2.5% since my workers, who were each producing 20% of 100% of my former output are now each producing 25% of 90% of that former output.

So productivity can be a little misleading as a statistic.

11 posted on 08/03/2008 4:52:29 PM PDT by Grut
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Grut
Productivity increases by 2.5% since my workers, who were each producing 20% of 100% of my former output are now each producing 25% of 90% of that former output.

20 to 22.5 is an increase of 12.5%.

12 posted on 08/03/2008 4:56:47 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Half the time it could seem funny, the other half's just too sad.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: TruthConquers
How much longer will foreigners want to buy America’s debt?

As long as we pay them back.

What happens after they own it all?

We'll be laughing our asses off. How could you possibly think that would be bad?

13 posted on 08/03/2008 4:58:38 PM PDT by BfloGuy (It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we can expect . . .)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: BfloGuy

And how long will foreigners WANT our money when it becomes worth-LESS? Not a pretty scenario.

Why should you think it is funny when we can’t even drill for our own energy, average Americans are being squeezed, and yet let Arabs and Chinese can buy our country up with our increasingly useless funny money?


14 posted on 08/03/2008 5:09:06 PM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publici scholae)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: abb
As we roboticize American industry you are going to see more and more productivity improvement.

There's a good chance that America will become the world's low cost provider with a couple of decades ~ FOR EVERYTHING!

China will be seen to have made a serious mistake by focusing on labor intensie industries.

15 posted on 08/03/2008 6:03:56 PM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: UCFRoadWarrior
Ever buy a Boeing passenger aircraft?

The Chicoms have ~ lots of them. They know the difference between toasters and planes.

16 posted on 08/03/2008 6:05:39 PM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: muawiyah

“China will be seen to have made a serious mistake by focusing on labor intensie industries.”

Good heavens! I never thought of that. I have a neighbor studying miniaturized computers. I guess she’ll be helping high-tech factories hum along.

At the same time, it would be nice to help manufacturing grow through the fair tax and curbed spending.

[I was in a labor-intense plant a few years back. Between that and a leaky roof, the place folded. Akia nearly did business with us, but his men apparently didn’t approve of rain falling on our wood panels. Sorry to digress.]


17 posted on 08/03/2008 6:14:32 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (The Dum-bama Banking Committee offers free breathalysers and inhilators for asthmatics in 58 states.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Robotics are becoming so advanced they will continue to infiltrate into our manufacturing systems irrespective of "fair tax" and "curbed spending" policies.

That's because they are incredibly productive and generate far more than anyone's expected share to GDP.

Think about Wal-Mart for a moment (and IKEA for that matter). These organizations are much more like vast machines than the old-fashioned chain-store warehouse/retail outlet model. IKEA stores themselves are remarkably interchangeable with a degree of uniformity that allows a handful of layout designers in Stockholm to prepare detailed maps for goods movement and stock presentation down to the gnat's eyelash for hundreds of stores worldwide.

That system is replicated in Wal-Mart, although I do know of a store in Carlsbad/Oceanside/Vista (on Cannon Road) that is the EXACT opposite layout from the one closest to my home.

The computers can evaluate staffing needs and schedule employees without serious need of supervisory intervention.

Both IKEA and Wal-Mart extend their store stocking system backwards up the line to their contract manufacturers and suppliers. It's not just a case of signing a contract; these guys tell you when and where you will provide what, and that's the end of the story.

Just before I retired from USPS I was very involved in quality control systems that enabled major mailers to perfectly meld their operations with USPS entry operations and thereby get better service while creating the lowest possible costs for USPS. We had computer systems hanging off every guy involved in this 24/7.

USPS continues to be the world's "low cost provider" when it comes to mail service. No doubt there's room for improvement, but how'd you like to be served by the second-best postal system?

Pure robotics were purchased "off the shelf" for USPS. I presume it's improved since I left. Someday the only postal worker you will see is the guy delivering the mail.

18 posted on 08/03/2008 6:30:24 PM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: muawiyah

You do realize that USPS was supposed to fail along with Fed-Ex. The US Postal System has no need of profits, and need not pay taxes. You guys really ticked off the left.


19 posted on 08/03/2008 6:35:35 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (The Dum-bama Banking Committee offers free breathalysers and inhilators for asthmatics in 58 states.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: TruthConquers
What happens after [foreigners] own it all?

Not much. If nobody owned the debt, it wouldn't even exist. So by definition, somebody already has to own all of it.

It would be sort of like what happens when someone's mortgage is bought by another lender. Other than sending the payments to a different place, the mortgage holder would see no difference.

20 posted on 08/03/2008 7:24:33 PM PDT by raisetheroof ("To become Red is to become dead --- gradually." Alexander Solzhenitsyn)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-24 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson