Good question.
Posted on 07/31/2008 3:19:18 PM PDT by pissant
**FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE TO THE MAIN STREAM**
Obama Lies About His Birth Records and His Identity: Evidence Revealed
The mystery of Barack Obama’s Birth Certificate is virtually solved. The findings have been documented in a series of reports published on two blogs, No Quarter and TexasDarlin, no thanks to the Main Stream Media, which has universally ignored this matter.
(Links and disclaimers are at the end; assertions and assumptions are based on good-faith understandings of the truth. The remainder of this post represents draft theories.)
Summary of Obama’s Deception
Barack Obama has misled and deceived the American public about his dual identity, dual citizenship, religious background, and birth records.
He was, and possibly still is, a citizen of Indonesia.
Contrary to Obama’s public statements that he’s “always been a Christian” Obama was at one time a Muslim.
His Hawaiian Birth Certificate reveals the legal name Barry Soetoro. His original Birth Certificate, with the name Barack H. Obama, was sealed.
That is why the Birth Certificate published on his campaign website “FightTheSmears” is fake. Barack Obama does not want you to know about his Soetoro identity. Obama’s Deception: The Details
The Fake Birth Certificate: The Certificate of Live Birth (COLB) published on the Obama Campaign’s website “FightTheSmears” has been falsified. Two experts with combined experience of more than 60 years in document analysis and computer forensics are willing to testify if necessary. I have seen their professional qualifications; trust me, they would pass the “expert witness” test with flying colors. Their latest reports are provided below.
Indonesian Citizenship: Obama acquired Indonesian citizenship when he was adopted by Lolo Soetoro, his step-father. He may still have Indonesian citizenship.
When was Obama going to disclose his Indonesian identity to the American electorate? The legal issues related to dual citizenship can be reasonably argued, and possibly will be.
But the immediate problem at this time, on the eve of the Democratic Convention, is that the “presumed nominee” has lied to the American public by intentionally withholding key information about his background and identity.
Religious Background: Obama underestimated the tolerance of Americans in accepting his Muslim background. As Lolo Soetoro’s son, Barry Soetoro was a Muslim in Indonesia. But Obama has publicly proclaimed that he’s “never been a Muslim.” This claim is highlighted on his “FightTheSmears” website.
Obama has flat-out lied about this part of his life.
Will we hold him accountable for these deceptions? Dual Citizenship Could Disqualify Obama from the Presidency
Obama has hidden the truth about his Indonesian identity and citizenship because it could disqualify him under Article II of the Constitution. So he thought he’d just ignore it.
Again, the legal issues can be reasonably argued, but when was Obama planning to tell the truth?
For a comprehensive analysis of the legal issues, see Judah Benjamin’s articles (links below). He lays out a strong argument that Obama is ineligible based on Art. II. New Theory of Birth Certificate Events
Based on Judah Benjamin’s research, backed up by Polarik’s and Techdude’s analyses, I published my new theory of events on Wednesday in Birth Certificate: Obama, Soetoro, or Dunham?
Theory of Birth Certificate Events: 1. Obama was born in Hawaii on Aug. 4, 1961, with the legal name Barack Hussein Obama II, and Barack H. Obama Sr. was identified as his legal father. [NOTE: an alternative theory, that Obama was born in Canada, is still being researched.]
2. Obama was adopted by Lolo Soetoro in Hawaii sometime around 1965-1966.
3. As part of the adoption procedure, pursuant to Hawaiian law, Obama’s original Birth Certificate (BC) was SEALED, and a new Birth Certificate was issued with his new name, Barry Soetoro, and the name of his new father, Lolo Soetoro.
4. Mother and son joined Soetoro in Indonesia, where Barry Soetoro was registered in school as Lolo’s son, a Muslim, and a citizen of Indonesia.
5. After approximately 4 years, Barry Soetoro returned to Hawaii as a U.S. citizen to live with his grandparents, the Dunhams, and attend private school.
6. At some point before his 18th birthday, he most likely changed his legal name back to Barack Hussein Obama, but his Birth Certificate would not have been modified again unless there was another adoption (by the Dunhams, for example).
Among the questions asked therein: If any or all of these hypothesized facts are TRUE, why has Senator Obama deceived the American public, and will the public hold him accountable for the deceptions? CONCLUSION
It is theorized that:
Barack Obama has misled the American people about his background and his identity. The deception involves an intentional initiative to conceal records related to his birth and his childhood. These records would demonstrate that he acquired Indonesian citizenship when his step-father, Lolo Soetoro, adopted him; he was a practicing Muslim; his current Birth Certificate is in the legal name of Barry Soetoro; and he may still hold Indonesian citizenship today.
Barack Obama has undertaken a concerted and systematic effort to alter, delete, or hide records about his personal and professional life. His secrecy is unprecedented among presidential candidates in American History.
What will our Democratic Party leadership do to ensure that a vetted candidate is nominated for President?
‘Even if this is 100% true and he’s not eligible, to boot Obama out on a technicality will be viewed by the world as “rigged”.’
How many times do we have to say it - not eligible is NOT a technicality. It is everything.
Read it again ...Paragraphs 3 specifies serving in the military of a foreign nation and paragraph 5 specifies making a formal renunciation of nationality. Neither of these applies to Obama.SEC. 351. [8 U.S.C. 1483]
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(b) A national who within six months after attaining the age of eighteen years asserts his claim to United States nationality, in such manner as the Secretary of State shall by regulation prescribe, shall not be deemed to have lost United States nationality by the commission, prior to his eighteenth birthday, of any of the acts specified in paragraphs (3) and (5) of section 349(a) of this title.
“His Hawaiian Birth Certificate reveals the legal name Barry Soetoro. His original Birth Certificate, with the name Barack H. Obama, was sealed.”
Did someone finally obtain a copy of his authentic birth certificate? Or is this just the theory being posed?
...first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace;
3Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God;...
Well D*MN! What can we do? They’ve proven the certificate is a fraud- but nobody has a solution.Beat him the old fashioned away, in an election. This is a fine campaign issue.
Good question.
That’s not quite true. There could have been a COLB with no name mentioned as the father. That was the practice in Hawaii at the time, if it were the mother’s wish.
Just as with the COLB of child now reported to be John Edwards’ - no father listed on the COLB.
I was born in England in 1939 to American parents, so I have a British birth certificate bearing the names of my Mother and Father. They registered my birth with the American Consulate in London shortly thereafter, so I also have a Consular birth certificate bearing my full name at birth.
My parents returned to the US (with me, of course) shortly after my birth, due to the hostilities - the “blitz” - soon to come.
We settled in California - Pacific Palisades - where my brother was born, in 1945. But my Father was in poor health, and died before his second birthday. My Mother re-married two years later, and two years after that our Stepfather adopted both of us - in California.
My brother’s original California birth certificate was sealed, and we both received new, official, DELAYED certificates of birth showing our new full names. I still have access to both my English and my Consular certificates with my birth father’s name, but my brother COULD NOT obtain his, because California had sealed it - but they could not touch mine.
Then, 20 years ago my brother decided to revert to his birth father’s name. But since he could not access his old certificate, he asked me to officially certify his birth name, which I was happy to do. So now he has an official, court approved certificate from an Eastern state with his original name and birthdate, and I have my delayed certificate with my adoptive name.
There’s absolutely nothing here but a lot of conjecture. And, those arguing these unsubstantiated claims look like tin-foil material. The analysis of the COLB image is professional and I think accurate, but it is meaningless without context.
I want Obama exposed for what he is, a somewhat clever but dim Marxist empty suit political actor put on a path to the presidency by other leftists who indeed have nefarious plans for this country. And I want all that to come to the fore after he gets the Dem nomination and the brakes are off the train. His candidacy will open a lot of eyes. We want him on the ticket, not Hillary.
It goes the other way. In order to lose his natural born citizenship, he would have had to renounce it after the age of eighteen. What his parents may have done doesn't matter. Nor does Indonesian law.
Don’t have time to read all the posts to see if this has been said, so I will just say it.
Unless the parents consent in writing, a minor cannot legally change his name. So the name change action prior to the age of 18 is unlikely.
Second, do you postulate Barry was adopted in Hawaii? If he was adopted in Indonesia, the US might or might not recognize it, and even if so, a second action would have to be brought in the US, if only to establish the judgment in Hawaii in order to seal the first birth records and substitute the names on the second.
**Barack Obama has misled and deceived the American public about his dual identity, dual citizenship, religious background, and birth records.**
Let’s keep digging. There has got to be more out there somewhere.
(Be sure to check under the bus too.)
I have done a lot of adoptions and know this is true. The birth certificate is amended to show the new parents, but it also shows that it is an amended certificate so someone with a trained eye looking at it will know an adoption has taken place.
Indeed. If the Donks throw the blacks under the bus, they will never recover as a party!
But popcorn purveyors and Denver plate glass installers will be sitting pretty, thank you very much!
John, I think you are right, and this is the best theory to date that I have seen.
What do you think he did for a driver’s license, or social security card, or even a passport?
In fact, he was old enough to need a passport at the age of 6 when leaving, and 10 when returning. how do you think those documents changed to Obama from Soetero? In Fla. a legal name change is public record. Is it public record in Hawaii? In Illinois?
Indonesian law has no effect on US Citizenship. Only US law applies. To prove that Obama is no longer a citizen, you would need not only to show that he aquired Indonesian citizenship, but that his mother intended for him to renounce his American citizenship. You can’t lose US citizenship by accident or oversight. It must be an explicit and intentional act under US law.
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1753.html
“In order to lose U.S. citizenship, the law requires that the person must apply for the foreign citizenship voluntarily, by free choice, and with the intention to give up U.S. citizenship.”
BHO, while a minor was not in a position to renounce his citizenship. His mother’s actions, in returning him to the US, show intent not to renounce citizenship. She also never filled out any document with the US Embassy renouncing her or her son’s US citizenship, therefore, he is a citizen.
US State Department policy on renouncing US Citizenship.
http://travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizenship_778.html
Below is an FAQ on dual citizenship from a dual citizen.
Or maybe someone from The Smith List coming back to the USA claiming that McCain ate ice cream while listening to the Bob and Eddy Show?
See this link on relinquishing American Citizenship, it is not as simple as checking a box.
http://travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizenship_776.html
Tell me something then....why does our nation have laws that say that a eighteen year old must reaffirm his citizenship or lose it after six months of becoming eighteen.
If Indonesian laws means nothing to our laws why have such a law on our books at all?
Clearly our laws recognize that a minor could or would want to reaffirm their American Citizenship when they became an adult and our laws also say that if they didn’t do so they could lose their American citizenship as well.
Obama’s mother knew what having her son adopted in Indonesia meant, it meant he would lose his American citizenship, and she was prepared to do that and more. Under Indonesian law Lolo Soetoro became Barack Obama’s only legal guardian, since his mother had no legal rights under Indonesian law. In order to attend any Public schools in Indonesia, Barry Soetoro had to become an Indonesian citizen.
And unless the State department has records of him following the proscribed procedure for reaffirming his American citizenship at 18 he lost it according to US law.
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