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Andrew Giuliani files lawsuit against Duke (Rudy's son cut from golf team, oh the humanity!)
newsday ^ | July 24, 2008 | Ellis Henican

Posted on 07/24/2008 9:52:41 AM PDT by Rebelbase

But New York City's former first son is swinging back hard.

Late Wednesday, his attorneys filed a federal lawsuit in North Carolina, contending the university has violated its obligations to him as a student-athlete and demanding he be invited back to Duke's state-of-the-art golf-training facility.

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KEYWORDS: dukeu; golf; lawsuit; ncaa; whiner
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To: tips up
"Call the Breck Girl to handle the case."

He's currently in California making some motions in an old suit.

21 posted on 07/24/2008 10:22:59 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: stainlessbanner

While he’s at it, he might as well sue for not being offered a position as starting forward on the basketball team as well.


22 posted on 07/24/2008 10:23:47 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: Rebelbase
He certainly has legal standing -- and a compelling reason as well -- to file this lawsuit if NCAA rules governing student-athletes come into play. As far as I know, NCAA rules basically tie a student-athlete to his school unless he is willing to lose a year of eligibility by transferring to another program. So Duke has told this guy that he can't play on the golf team, and as he is entering his senior year he can't transfer to another school and maintain his eligibility, either.

This is probably an even bigger issue if there is an athletic scholarship involved.

I have no idea if this suit has any merit based on the facts, but based on everything I know about that big-time racket known as the National Collegiate Athletic Association I'd say this guy has every right to pursue all legal avenues to restore his spot on the team.

23 posted on 07/24/2008 10:25:31 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

The coach, who was planning on downsizing the team, encouraged (or required?) other teammates to harass Giuliani—that is,
they were to help out with eliminating their competition for remaining places on the team. Their own chances of being on the team might be affected by whether the coach thought they were being effective in harassing Giuliani.

Giuliani was also required to get letters supporting him from all the other team members; if even one didn’t respond, he would be eliminated from the team.

After one player sent such a letter, praising Giuliani, the coach said it wasn’t supportive enough to count.

And so on.

It also tried to get him to sign waivers of his rights, which they claimed (falsely?) were not legal documents;
and when he refused to sign, he got more harassment.

There are all sorts of ways in which coaches try to get rid of team members; but I would think that Duke would have been especially careful after the lacrosse incident to tread the straight and narrow legal line. Instead, the coach (and his superiors at the school) appear to have been heavy-handed and bludgeoned the other teammates into compliance; and perhaps tried to pull some odd moves with regard to legal waivers.

So, Duke can now shell out even more bucks for lawyers.

I’m sure the Duke Board of Trustees and the alumni must be pleased that a trainload of Duke’s money will be going to pay attorney fees.


24 posted on 07/24/2008 10:33:17 AM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: Mr. K

It seems more than just a coincidence that the new coach of the team did this, just as AG is entering his senior year in college. There is more here than meets the eye—obviously.


25 posted on 07/24/2008 10:35:15 AM PDT by Canedawg
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To: CondorFlight

Why can’t a coach simply CUT a college player? Is this illegal now, since it might hurt his f-f-f-feelings? Have we slipped that far already?


26 posted on 07/24/2008 10:40:24 AM PDT by Teacher317 (Thank you Dith Pran for showing us what Communism brings)
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To: Teacher317

“Why can’t a coach simply CUT a college player? Is this illegal now, since it might hurt his f-f-f-feelings? Have we slipped that far already?”

If the school induced a player to attend there, based on promises of being on the team, lifetime use of facilities, lifetime support, etc.; and the player then pays the school $200,000 for his four years; and then is cut from the team so that he loses his final year of eligibility and loses his lifetime support and use of training facilities, etc.—

he may have a case, because the school sought him, and made him promises to get him, which it then broke.


27 posted on 07/24/2008 10:49:00 AM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: Rebelbase

Looks like the kid got his ticket punched by some jerk, but so what? He isn’t the first one, and won’t be the last one either! Sounds like he needs to get a life and move on. Duke sucks anyway, this just helps prove it.


28 posted on 07/24/2008 11:04:34 AM PDT by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: CondorFlight

So players can’t be cut from any sport, ever? (Well, other than for conduct unbecoming, etc) That just doesn’t ring true to me. Players who were recruited are cutt all the time. Just as players cannot guarantee championships, schools cannot guarantee lifetim benefits. What each offers the other is the OPPORTUNITY, IMHO.


29 posted on 07/24/2008 11:05:28 AM PDT by Teacher317 (Thank you Dith Pran for showing us what Communism brings)
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To: Redleg Duke

“It sounds like Andrew is guilty of being the son of a Republican.”

I thought it said his Dad was Rudy Giuliani?


30 posted on 07/24/2008 11:08:02 AM PDT by AmericanHunter
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To: CondorFlight
"I’m sure the Duke Board of Trustees and the alumni must be pleased that a trainload of Duke’s money will be going to pay attorney fees."

Surely they're used to that sort of thing by now. If all you say is true, the coach is an idiot...having said that, in the wake of the lacrosse fiasco, I'd also have to question the intelligence of any student athlete who would choose Duke.

Let's just suppose the coach is a die hard leftist and had a hard-on for Junior Giuliani, simply because he was the son of an alleged Republican...how desireable would that spot on the golf team be anyways? Especially when a number of your team mates have been willing to cave to pressure in getting you kicked off...

31 posted on 07/24/2008 11:35:22 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Rebelbase
Wendell Whiner!


32 posted on 07/24/2008 11:40:48 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Teacher317

Then why did the coach not just ‘cut’ him as you say? Why not just announce, “I am shrinking the team, Giuliani, your cut.” If as you say there was no contract, why not just cut him? Why did the Coach come up with this letter writing idea and other strange actions, expell him, and bar him from the training facility of which he was promised lifetime use as an inducement for chosing Duke?


33 posted on 07/24/2008 11:44:26 AM PDT by On the Road to Serfdom
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To: Rebelbase

Link to Lawsuit:
http://www.wral.com/asset/news/state/2008/07/24/3262235/Andrew_Giuliani_vs_Duke.swf


34 posted on 07/24/2008 11:53:55 AM PDT by On the Road to Serfdom
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To: Rebelbase

Nobody seems to notice this story was written by the sneering little RAT Ellis Hennican. Seeing that punk’s name is enough to make me assume this is a hit piece. Funny how many Freepers jump to believe what a RAT mouthpiece tells them.


35 posted on 07/24/2008 12:00:22 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: On the Road to Serfdom

(from the suit) :

45. After his athletic eligibility was terminated, Andrew sought a meeting with the Interim Athletic Director, Dr. Christopher Kennedy. Kennedy initiated an investigation of the matter, meeting with six team members as a group and separately with Andrew for approximately ten minutes.

46. Kennedy notified [coach] O.D. Vincent that he wanted to have a further meeting alone with Andrew and his teammates—coaches excluded—to learn more about the situation. O.D. Vincent then met with the returning team members, notified them of Kennedy’s intention, and directed them to confront Andrew publicly, which they did that same day, in a public area near O.D. Vincent’s office, where they harassed and attempted to intimidate Andrew.

47. After that, O.D. Vincent contacted Kennedy to insist that no meeting among the returning team members and Andrew was necessary.

48. Shortly thereafter, Kennedy’s investigation was shut down by Pamela Bernard, the University’s General Counsel. Bernard declared that the Counsel’s office would conduct its own investigation into the matter, and demanded that all communication relating to this matter be directed to her. In response, Andrew’s counsel delivered a letter to Bernard that detailed the facts as alleged herein, annexed relevant documents, and requested a meeting.

49. Bernard delegated the responsibility for investigating O.D. Vincent’s misconduct to Deputy General Counsel, Kate Hendricks. At the time, and throughout her investigation, Ms. Hendricks was in Mississippi, on extended leave from her duties. The Hendricks’ investigation was a sham.

50. Ms. Hendricks promised Andrew’s counsel personally that she would meet with Andrew as part of the investigation. Ms. Hendricks never met with or spoke with Andrew at all.


36 posted on 07/24/2008 12:02:53 PM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: wastedyears

Whiner, just like his no-talent poser mom.


37 posted on 07/24/2008 12:09:20 PM PDT by Fudd Fan (Obama: black & white, and RED all over. NObama... keep the CHANGE.)
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To: Rebelbase

Trust me, Andy. Considering how some of the athletes at Duke have been treated recently, that coach did you a solid favor.


38 posted on 07/24/2008 12:14:57 PM PDT by RichInOC ("Certainly, Duke is Duke...they're on TV more than 'Leave it to Beavah' reruns..."-Pete Gillen)
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To: Rebelbase

No, I read the article and now I’m absolutely certain that cut is a blessing in disguise. Kid, sometimes it’s just better to take “no” for an answer. Get the hell out of there.


39 posted on 07/24/2008 12:23:13 PM PDT by RichInOC ("Certainly, Duke is Duke...they're on TV more than 'Leave it to Beavah' reruns..."-Pete Gillen)
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To: Mr. K

Just what I was thinking. Duke is a lieberal cesspool.


40 posted on 07/24/2008 2:49:17 PM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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