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Kids Stranded in Car After Mom's Arrest
Web India 123 ^ | 07.24.2008 | UPI

Posted on 07/23/2008 3:45:30 PM PDT by Coffee200am

North Carolina sheriff's deputies left the children of an arrested illegal immigrant woman on the side of a highway overnight stranded in a car, attorneys say.

Lawyers for Maria Chavira Ventura say she was stopped June 14 for a traffic violation along Interstate 85 in Alamance County, N.C. Deputies arrested her for driving without a license, leaving her three children, ages 14, 10 and 6, alone in the car with a man they barely knew, the Raleigh (N.C.) News & Observer reported Wednesday.

The man, a church acquaintance who was catching a ride with Ventura, abandoned the children in the car, where they stayed for eight hours before their father, also an illegal immigrant, arrived to rescue them, the newspaper said.

Lawyers with the North Carolina Justice Center told the News & Observer they are investigating the incident. Sheriff's Department officials said they handled Ventura's arrest according to their policies.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: aliens; arrest; donutwatch; illegal; immigrantlist; kids
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To: Bon mots

I’d like to hear what Mom and the guy told the cops - I’d be interested to find out if Mom told the officers that the stranger was the kids’ dad or uncle or whatever so the kids WOULDN’T be taken by the authorities.


21 posted on 07/23/2008 4:41:36 PM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Abraham Lincoln would have let Berkeley leave the Union without a fight)
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To: Coffee200am

Mom was wrong; the cops were wrong. None of the adults in this story behaved reasonably or responsibly. I’m glad the kids are okay


22 posted on 07/23/2008 4:50:35 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: ktscarlett66
There’s no excuse for leaving kids like that with some stranger.

Yes, and I'm sure if you saw a man and a woman with 3 kids in a car and the woman was the kids' mother, you would assume that the man was a stranger and not the father.

Or maybe you're the type who believes that U.S. police should know every language of every illegal immigrant in this country so that they never misinterpret any situation ever.

23 posted on 07/23/2008 4:59:31 PM PDT by dan1123 (If you want to find a person's true religion, ask them what makes them a "good person".)
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To: Coffee200am
Deputies arrested her for driving without a license, leaving her three children, ages 14, 10 and 6, alone in the car with a man they barely knew, the Raleigh (N.C.) News & Observer reported Wednesday.

Boo flipping hoo!

If the cops questioned her immigration status, her "rights" are violated.
I don't care what any law says. Illegal aliens dont have citizenship rights and protections, and I continue to believe that it's what the founders intended.

If they questioned her marital status, it would be infinitely worse.

The only remaining option is to assume the male is their father, unless told otherwise.

Of course, it could be their father, but illegal aliens never lie...

I'm gonna go sort my socks now.

24 posted on 07/23/2008 5:26:48 PM PDT by Publius6961 (You're Government, it's not your money, and you never have to show a profit.)
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To: ktscarlett66
Illegal Aliens lie. Period.

If they are all deported tomorrow, problem solved.

It would never happen again.
Right?

25 posted on 07/23/2008 5:29:16 PM PDT by Publius6961 (You're Government, it's not your money, and you never have to show a profit.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
I believe in moral absolutes. "Don't Put Children in Danger" is high on that list.

Silly season is back?
Even if they are wearing explosive vests?

The problem with "absolutes" is that most adults know it means, "no exceptions."

26 posted on 07/23/2008 5:31:58 PM PDT by Publius6961 (You're Government, it's not your money, and you never have to show a profit.)
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To: Wilhelm Tell
or some people here who seem to be glowing in sanctimonious joy that children of illegals were potentially in danger.

I have a hot flash for you Guillermo; Illegal Alien children are in danger 24/7, whether cops are involved or not.

Maybe you can leave your name and address and phone number with the "do-gooders alliance."

27 posted on 07/23/2008 5:35:02 PM PDT by Publius6961 (You're Government, it's not your money, and you never have to show a profit.)
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To: Coffee200am; All

lots more info here......including, that both the kids & the “stranger” has CELL PHONES !!

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/crime_safety/story/1150866.html


28 posted on 07/23/2008 5:45:30 PM PDT by txdoda (Voters to Gov't .......Re: post 9-11 Border Security....... ""The results are Unacceptable."")
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To: Coffee200am
To all: It is an easy thing to forget that this is a very hard issue that is breaking up many families and is truly heartbreaking. 99% of these people are just like you and me, hard working, family focused and just want a better life for their families. These people are just like our forefathers and parents that all came from other places so that our lives would be better and sacrificed all they knew and came with nothing for the benefit of generations they would never meet (You and me today). Yes, it appears that she came illegally, but she is also a real person, with real young children. The solution to the immigration problem has to be better than breaking up a family who has only broken a traffic law while here. I don't have the solution. But taking a hardline against people who haven't harmed anyone seems to me fundamentally unfair and frankly un-american. Hell...we give more rights to real criminals who rape, murder and steal. I ask you....IS THIS RIGHT?....
29 posted on 07/23/2008 6:28:21 PM PDT by CraigT
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To: txdoda

Jones said the man, who had no identification or driver’s license, had a cell phone and told the officer that help was on the way. The mother spoke very little English, so the officer had the teenage daughter ask her handcuffed mother whether she approved of them staying with the man, Jones said.

“The girl said something to the mother in Spanish,” Jones said. “And the officer said the mother looked at him and nodded.”

They are looking for the million dollar American lottery. Simple as that.


30 posted on 07/23/2008 6:30:02 PM PDT by sheana
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To: Coffee200am
Sheriff's Department officials said they handled Ventura's arrest according to their policies.

Policies! Brains? And these idiots carry guns and drive at high speeds? Jakes with no regard for the rest of their profession!

31 posted on 07/23/2008 6:31:39 PM PDT by bvw
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To: sheana

Well, the deputy wrote them such a ticket, then.


32 posted on 07/23/2008 6:33:17 PM PDT by bvw
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To: CraigT

sheesh, you almost made me cry. (eye roll)

I don’t want to break up families either. Send the woman, her illegal husband, and all the children back where they came from. Deportation is NOT a ‘hardline’, it is the law. They don’t belong here.......period.


33 posted on 07/23/2008 6:33:25 PM PDT by sheana
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To: bvw

Not from what I read. They would all get a free ride home and that would be that.


34 posted on 07/23/2008 6:34:57 PM PDT by sheana
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To: sheana

I hope you are right, and actually my last response was impulsive.


35 posted on 07/23/2008 6:39:23 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Bernard
His name wouldn't happen to be Baraq Obama, would it?

Actually, it was Bang A'Mama

36 posted on 07/23/2008 7:00:42 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: bvw

It’s all good. ;)


37 posted on 07/23/2008 7:29:56 PM PDT by sheana
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To: CraigT

Please, do not compare the illegals of today with the immigrants that come over here through Ellis Island. Contrary to belief, alot of immigrants returned to their home countries because it was sink or swim when you got here. NO FREEBEE’’S, yes the immigrants of yesterday built this country, at the same time they were not sucking the country dry with social programs.

Oh, and if 99% are so grateful and want such a good life for their children, explain to me why the children of illegals have the highest drop out rates and they are surpassing every other ethnic group with regard to unwed teen pregnancy? Guess the FREE education doesn’t really mean all that much to them. We have a school here that is predominately illegal children, the middle school has now turned into a gang recruitment center, so much for a better life.


38 posted on 07/23/2008 7:47:16 PM PDT by panthermom
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To: Publius6961
I thump explosive vests on the centerpunch line. Regardless of who is wearing. But the pricks that put kids in that situation need to be..... having discussions.

/johnny

39 posted on 07/23/2008 9:08:19 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: panthermom
You make good points and the facts that many abuses are taking place is making the patience thin for most americans who are fair minded...and open to new people coming into the USA...the legal way...My point was only that there are real world consequences to policies...I would like to find a way to balance both the legal issues and also the human issues...

The social issues you talk about are also very serious and real and part of system of beliefs and habits that are brought in from the “old country”...But wasn't this true for every major immigrant group that came in waves over our history..the Irish..the Italians..the Eastern Europeans...

Again...In no way do I want to come across as pro-illegal immigration...I only wish to make the point that when the policy of “kick’em out” in actually inforced, there are good, decent people that get pulled into a system that treats them like criminals...

40 posted on 07/23/2008 9:52:06 PM PDT by CraigT
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