Posted on 07/08/2008 11:48:40 AM PDT by neverdem
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Mark 16:17-18 King James Version (KJV)
17And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
18They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
So it’s obvious, you don’t really believe in Jesus if you don’t handle snakes. The bible says it.
One would assume that extinction by degeneration of the genome would most severely affect the fastest breeders, those that reproduce at the fastest rate and have the most generations in a given period of time.
And do pray tell, when was the last time the pope 'took up a serpent'?Mark 16:17-18 King James Version (KJV)
17And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
18They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.So its obvious, you dont really believe in Jesus if you dont handle snakes. The bible says it.
I mean really, science says if you handle poisonous snakes you'll get bit, sick and maybe die. Jesus says if you believe in him, you'll be able to handle poisonous snakes and not be harmed in the slightest.
So who you going to believe, Jesus or Science?
Who wrote: I'm a Evangelical Christian who believes the Bible takes precedent over atheistic science.(Nice bait-n-switch/strawman.)
I mean really, science says if you handle poisonous snakes you'll get bit, sick and maybe die. Jesus says if you believe in him, you'll be able to handle poisonous snakes and not be harmed in the slightest.
So who you going to believe, Jesus or Science?
So basically, you don’t really believe in God.
“So far, evolution has not been falsified every time it has been tested”
The evolution model should be verifiable through the fossil record, yet there is no proof, represented by transitional life forms. Trying to protect your inability to prove that by a falsifiable model standard speaks to how valid your “science” is.
"So basically, you dont really believe in God."Your appearance of having a complete lack of wisdom and discernment concerning this subject leads me to believe that you are no follower of Christ.
Fichori,
Why should the Pope (or myself) for that matter be held to your heretical “logic?” I am not claiming “the Bible takes precedent over atheistic science.”
Those are your words, and by your own words you are a failure of a Christian. The Bible says in plain language that “They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them”
I show you an pretty clear cut instance of Science and the Bible contradicting each other, you try to change the subject. You are just like all those other free-fundies, you claim the Bible is always right, but you’ll never take a risk to prove it.
"Why should the Pope (or myself) for that matter be held to your heretical logic? I am not claiming the Bible takes precedent over atheistic science." [excerpt]Atheistic science has determined that there is no need for a God.
"Those are your words, and by your own words you are a failure of a [Catholic] Christian. The Bible says in plain language that They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them" [excerpt, corrected]Correct, I'm not a Catholic.
"I show you an pretty clear cut instance of Science and the Bible contradicting each other, you try to change the subject. You are just like all those other free-fundies, you claim the Bible is always right, but youll never take a risk to prove it." [excerpt]Strawmaning again are we.
Science is science, there’s no such thing as atheistic science. Because, science will change their beliefs to fit with the data, Evangelicals will never change their mind. Walk up to an Atheist, ask him what evidence would he need to see to believe in God.
Go to a Evangelical as him what evidence would he need to see to not believe in God.
The Atheist will give you an answer, the Evangelical will just spout nonsense like you’ve been doing for the last few days.
You're question was if mankind evolved from apes, how come there are still apes. The answer is because not all apes evolved. Whether you agree with answer or not, it's the answer that scientists have answered repeatedly.
The analogy I attempted to use was that if a woman changed her maiden name, when she gets married, it does not mean that all people with her maiden name change their name. Similarly, when one (or a few) apes started to evolve towards humans, not all apes did.
(Strictly speaking, humans did not evolve from modern apes. Rather modern apes and humans have a common ancestor, but that's a different question.)
"Science is science, theres no such thing as atheistic science. [excerpt]If a scientist chooses to use a methodology that denies God (as many do), then that is atheistic science.
"Because, science will change their beliefs to fit with the data, Evangelicals will never change their mind. Walk up to an Atheist, ask him what evidence would he need to see to believe in God." [excerpt]If atheistic science can blow your faith over, your not standing on the Rock.
"Go to a Evangelical as[k] him what evidence would he need to see to not believe in God." [excerpt, corrected]And if he has faith, nothing will case him to disbelieve.
"The Atheist will give you an answer, the Evangelical will just spout nonsense like youve been doing for the last few days." [excerpt]Looks like I've got your nerves strung as tight as banjo strings.
“Whether you agree with answer or not, it’s the answer that scientists have answered repeatedly.”
Completely wrong - that is the answer they repeatedly give - they have not answered the question.
“The Atheist will give you an answer, the Evangelical will just spout nonsense like youve been doing for the last few days.”
When they start this line of debate you know they are not confident in their position.
Ok, you have to be a troll, a plant from DU to make Evangelicals look stupid.
I’m done taking to you.
I’ll say a prayer for your soul.
LOL!Ok, you have to be a troll, a plant from DU to make Evangelicals look stupid.
Im done taking to you.
Ill say a prayer for your soul.
To me, Non-Sequitur, the idea of ID rests in the fact that the probability of life existing naturalistically is infinitesimally low, in fact impossible. The irreducible complexity of even one single cell belies evolutionary theory. But, neither ID OR evolution should be taught as *science* in schools, as Darwinism currently is. To me, it is a pernicious, grand hoax, like “global warming”, which causes people to feel needlessly despairing. Blessings, Bob
In other words, the idea of ID rests not on evidence supporting it, but attempts to discredit evolution and then say ID must be right by default.
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