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Things NEVER to Say to Women Executives
DiversityInc ^ | 8 July | Zadya Rivera

Posted on 07/08/2008 7:50:56 AM PDT by flowerplough

"Sometimes, a term of endearment can be anything but endearing.

"I had this manager who … started referring to me as 'honey,'" recalls May Snowden, former chief diversity officer for both Starbucks and Eastman Kodak Co. (one of DiversityInc's 25 Noteworthy Companies), who is now a consultant for Creative Wealth Alliance. "[It was] when I took my first director position. I was in a male-dominated job in the telecommunications industry and I did not want to embarrass him in front of his peers, so I invited him to my office and indicated that 'I won't call you sweetie if you won't call me honey.' We had that little conversation and he stopped. He was really embarrassed, [and because] he calls his wife, his daughters and other women 'honey', he did not even think about it."

"We all come to the table with biases and histories and upbringings in life that give us a perspective that may have 20, 30 years behind it," says Sherry Nolan, vice president of diversity and organizational capabilities at Pepsi Bottling Group..."

(The List:

Any kind of sexual comment

"You don't really want that promotion. You'll never see your kids."

"You'll get the job because you're a woman" or "You must be the token woman"

"What's the matter, is it that time of the month?"

"You're very attractive [or pretty, or beautiful, etc.]"

"You look great for your age" or "Do you use Botox?"

"You do that so well … for a girl."

"When are you due?")

(Excerpt) Read more at diversityinc.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: workplace
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To: Cedric

former chief diversity officer for both Starbucks and Eastman Kodak Co...

Thank goodness Eastman Kodak had the foresight to have a CDO - how’d that work out for them anyway?


121 posted on 07/08/2008 9:51:19 AM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: MIT-Elephant
What the hell kind of an organization is “DiversityInc”?

A way to sucker money from guilty rich liberals, and a way for regular corporations to try to avoid Jesse Jackson style extortion ("We are diverse! We even hired Diversity Inc. to make sure we were!").

122 posted on 07/08/2008 10:01:55 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Centurion2000

I have been contemplating...

“Say what you like, as long as you do your cotton-pickin’ job”


123 posted on 07/08/2008 10:07:44 AM PDT by woollyone (100 rounds per week totals over 5000 rounds in a year. Just thought you'd want to know.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

I know you’re not allowed to take pregnancy into account when hiring, even if birth and maternity leave are obviously going to happen as soon as the paperwork is signed.


124 posted on 07/08/2008 10:07:56 AM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: NeoCaveman
How about a hummer?

A Steve Martin joke about this girl he met having the greatest pussy he'd ever seen comes to mind. No, no, in case you haven't heard it he was talking about her cat (then the joke gets sicker).

125 posted on 07/08/2008 10:08:31 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: donna
Generally, I like strange men calling me honey, LOL.

I'm glad to know that, honey!   8^)
Am I strange enough for you to like that last sentence?
126 posted on 07/08/2008 10:12:01 AM PDT by FreedomOfExpression (Dime: what you have left after filling the car with gasoline.)
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To: Centurion2000
"Who lit the fuse on your tampon?"

This one doesn't work all that well but sure as hell schocks em.

LOL. I'm glad I didn't have anything in my mouth when I read that comment.

127 posted on 07/08/2008 10:19:20 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (A vote for any Democrat from BO on down the ticket is a vote for $10 a gallon gas.)
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To: antiRepublicrat

When I think about how long ago it was when I first heard that Steve Martin tape, it really makes me feel old.


128 posted on 07/08/2008 10:20:57 AM PDT by FreedomOfExpression (Dime: what you have left after filling the car with gasoline.)
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To: 50sDad
there are still those who insist you are "just the Man keeping me down."

Unfortunately, that complaint isn't limited to one race or color. Plenty of it to go around, in every neighborhood. It's far easier to blame someone else, rather than point a finger at your own shortcomings.

Good news on your daughter's school. Mrs WBill and I are starting to look. Right now, Homeschool is the best option IMHO, with private schools in second. I don't know much about the magnet schools in my area, yet, but we're looking. Still have a good while to go.

Public schools are out AFAIC. The HS in my area recently was proud to announce - PROUD TO ANNOUNCE - that they'd raised their graduation rates to 56%.

When I went to HS 20(cough) years ago, if you showed up occasionally and didn't assault the teachers, you were reasonably assured of getting a diploma. I can't imagine that it's gotten that much more difficult.

129 posted on 07/08/2008 10:33:06 AM PDT by wbill
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To: dolphins

:)Well I am on the other side of the coin and some things do annoy me.But your right some people take it to far dolphins.


130 posted on 07/08/2008 10:33:54 AM PDT by fatima
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To: wbill
Some of it is culture. When I had my car run through the local (Socialist) emissions testing a few years ago, there was a sign that said "Employees: Remember your attendance bonus!"

I can't imagine in my youth being paid a bonus just to show up. A spoiled generation, we are today.

Unfortunately, that complaint isn't limited to one race or color.

Didn't mean entirely to imply that...I know a lot of people to whom the mentality applies.

131 posted on 07/08/2008 10:39:20 AM PDT by 50sDad (OBAMA: In your heart you know he's Wright.)
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To: flowerplough

Nobody caught this AFAICT. The website also lists:

Things Not To Say
7 Things NEVER to Say to LGBT Coworkers
7 Things NEVER to Say to People With Disabilities
10 Things NEVER to Say to a Black Coworker
10 Things NEVER to Say to Latino Executives

Notice there is no list pertaining to white people or just men.


132 posted on 07/08/2008 10:42:22 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: FreedomOfExpression
You are perfectly strange!

This is too strange.


133 posted on 07/08/2008 10:43:42 AM PDT by donna ("Don't let the sound of your own wheels drive you crazy.")
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To: yankeedame

LOL


134 posted on 07/08/2008 10:52:29 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (www.pinupsforvets.com)
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To: Aquinasfan

” And dates should show up with flowers every week, just like on the old “Mary Tyler Moore Show.”

I think I’ve covered it.”

But if you show up with flowers you might be a creeper, don’t forget that complaint.


135 posted on 07/08/2008 10:54:33 AM PDT by MIT-Elephant ("Armed with what? Spitballs?")
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To: caseinpoint

Perhaps he has you confused with one of the many predator-teachers we seem to have running around these days (or maybe he’s warming up to schmooze Miss Davis from English period.)


136 posted on 07/08/2008 10:59:46 AM PDT by MIT-Elephant ("Armed with what? Spitballs?")
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To: MIT-Elephant

LOL. On my bad days I do resemble a predator, I suppose. Like a badger or Tasmanian Devil, perhaps.


137 posted on 07/08/2008 11:01:25 AM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things)
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To: Retired COB
Command Master Chief ( I assume);

No-I was commenting that in fact we do have this very situation-majority files being replaced by minority files to “even out the ship” in naval terms.

I saw it quite often- a solid guy retiring early as his peer group minority counterpart steps up-everyone knew why Joe was moving on, as well as why the other was stepping up another rung...TMWG (too many white guys)

I retired shortly after my branch manager told me that due to my age I would never command a battalion-you see I was a “mustang” officer-at least in the USN there is a regulatory restriction on “mustang” types and command billets, if my intell from sailors was correct; in the Army, there is no such proscription, apparently just a glass ceiling....

I was told that I clearly was very competitive, but my age was the issue-45 year old O4 (whose FITREP history was solid by any measure-according to several boards-early promotion, advanced civil schooling, Army Staff College etc).

Oh, by the way, branch wanted me to go back to Iraq yet a third time since I was “indispensable and effective”. I wonder who they sent in my place when I punched out a few weeks from wheels up?

God Bless

COB-what boat?

138 posted on 07/08/2008 11:12:15 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret) "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: 50sDad
Didn't mean entirely to imply that... I didn't take it that way at all... :-)

The local furniture factory gives its employees an extra dollar an hour if they show up on time all week. It's one of the "perks".

When I was punching a clock, I'd have killed for $40 extra a week just for showing up on time. I would say that my current job has a bigger incentive for being on time...I get to come into work tomorrow!

139 posted on 07/08/2008 11:29:43 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Perdogg
“I have a bone-us for you” - Not a good idea.

If a woman boss asks you to come into her office, be sure to answer, "I'll be right there" (instead of "I'm ---ing").

140 posted on 07/08/2008 11:49:29 AM PDT by Christian4Bush ("In Israel, the President hit the nail on the head. The nails are complaining loudly." - John Bolton)
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