Posted on 07/08/2008 7:50:56 AM PDT by flowerplough
"Sometimes, a term of endearment can be anything but endearing.
"I had this manager who … started referring to me as 'honey,'" recalls May Snowden, former chief diversity officer for both Starbucks and Eastman Kodak Co. (one of DiversityInc's 25 Noteworthy Companies), who is now a consultant for Creative Wealth Alliance. "[It was] when I took my first director position. I was in a male-dominated job in the telecommunications industry and I did not want to embarrass him in front of his peers, so I invited him to my office and indicated that 'I won't call you sweetie if you won't call me honey.' We had that little conversation and he stopped. He was really embarrassed, [and because] he calls his wife, his daughters and other women 'honey', he did not even think about it."
"We all come to the table with biases and histories and upbringings in life that give us a perspective that may have 20, 30 years behind it," says Sherry Nolan, vice president of diversity and organizational capabilities at Pepsi Bottling Group..."
(The List:
Any kind of sexual comment
"You don't really want that promotion. You'll never see your kids."
"You'll get the job because you're a woman" or "You must be the token woman"
"What's the matter, is it that time of the month?"
"You're very attractive [or pretty, or beautiful, etc.]"
"You look great for your age" or "Do you use Botox?"
"You do that so well … for a girl."
"When are you due?")
(Excerpt) Read more at diversityinc.com ...
And of course, his job at a major local airline? Diversity trainer!
And of course, his job at a major local airline? Diversity trainer!
Whatever a man says or does is in violation of the PC norms, when a certified victim complains about it.
Innocence and good intentions are no defense. Possession of facial hair, deep voice and other characteristics prove that you’re guilty.
“Time and gravity will remove the bag boy problem.”
Well, that’s just it. Time and gravity have already done their work. It’s obviously pandering to refer to me as a “young lady”, especially by a teenager. Does he really believe I would be taken in by him and start giggling? I don’t really believe he’s being rude, just awkward in knowing how to follow the grocery store chain directive to make complimentary remarks to customers. However, such remarks must have at least a grain of truth and you don’t call someone perhaps thrice your age “young lady”.
I had a guy at work that was calling me ‘honey’ and ‘sweetie’ all the time. I started calling him ‘darling’ and ‘sugar lips’ and so forth in response. He laughed, I laughed. He stopped. All is well.
great picture.....thanks!
These are the Hillary Voters!
Whatever a man says or does is in violation of the PC norms...
Just opening your mouth is cause....
You NEVER say it but I had a boss who would get so bad that I actually kept track of her cycle on my desk calandar... "Careful"
We used to have a lady who kept this sign on her desk:
Bet the rent that the women who complain loudest want to retain every last advantage in family court.
“You don’t sweat much for a fat chick.”
That should be the start of a lively conversation with the woman ...
The "Diversity Trainer" at one of my former companies cost us our top network engineer. We all worked together for years before we got outsourced to a large technical company. He happened to be the only black guy that showed up to some new-hire Indoctrination (I mean education...) session, and got singled out by the "Trainer".
Guy was so mad that he could barely speak....said "Did you notice that I was the only black guy in the room before she pointed me out?" nope. "Did you notice that I'm the only black guy in the room, now?" yup. "I've worked for years to be seen as a top engineer, not as a black engineer and that (witch) ruined it in 10 seconds!"
Put his notice in the next day. I imagine he's retired, now, he was a former nuc in the Navy and I doubt he needed to work....the guy designed Cisco networks for a hobby and basically got paid to travel all over the world to do what he'd be doing for fun, anyway.
I may need to retract my previous comment about Training/HR being a fluffy job that doesn't do any damage. :-) Of course, this particular company didn't want high paid engineers, they wanted low paid robots that didn't ask inconvenient questions, so this guy would have been gone soon anyway. Perhaps this lady's comments were by design? More likely, she was just an idiot.
Are you insinuating that the military doesn't have affirmative action hires??? Colin Powell comes to mind.
Actually, the military has led the way in this arena for women and minorities (not for homosexuals yet). It really made it extremely difficult for us white guys to compete for advancement. For us to make it, we quite literally had to "Walk on Water".
I made it. USN Retired
I believe the old saying is "You don't get your meat where you get your bread".
Never keep your honey where you make your money.
It's not a coincidence there are so many pearls of wisdom on the topic.
I don’t recommend this:
Do you know why it is called PMS?
Because Mad Cow Disease was already taken.. LOL..
The high school she attends is a wondrous and wonderful thing...a local magnet school in our public system, well run, not terribly biased, and about half black or minority. The great thing is that because of their high entrance requirements, the only people there are the students, of every race, who want to be there and belong there, because they know the impressive doors it can open. Very little drug problem, no measurable "race tension", and the teachers can teach, rather than spend half their time babysitting violent do-nothings.
I think we would advance the "race issue" in this country if we all were allowed to do what MLKjr proposed...judge people by the contents of their hearts. The problem remains that when you make this very reasonable judgment of a person's actions, there are still those who insist you are "just the Man keeping me down."
“Don’t get your ____ caught in the cash register.”
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