Obama birth certificate mystery solved?

American Thinker ^ | June 29, 2008 | Thomas Lifson

[Kevmo]

Could it be a case of much ado about nothing? Doug Ross thinks so. Questions have been raised about the copy posted on the Daily Kos site bore a state seal embossed.

..one of Pamela Geller's readers did some heavy-lifting with Photoshop and discovered what appears to be an embossed seal on the back of Obama's certificate.

Ross writes:

I was startled because I had carefully reviewed the image weeks ago and not seen any clue of a signature or embossed seal. I spent some time this morning playing with various graphics settings until I was able to tease a similar image out of the scan.

It certainly appears to be legitimate.

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/06/the-missing-oba.html

The "Missing" Obama Birth Certificate Seal UPDATE: Mitchell Langbert has written a Freedom of Information Act Request for Barack Obama's Birth Certificate

I know there is a lot of controversy and back and forth on absence of an official seal on Obama's birth certificate. Atlas reader Joe aka Jointhehunt5Yaser has been blowing up the birth certificate (lifted off Obama's Fight the Smear site) and there is a seal image there.

On the right the Patricia Decosta Hawaiian Birth certificate

Joe wrote me:

I flipped it over, cut it and put it next to the seal from Patrica Decosta birth certificate. I think it is a seal, if not, for sure it is an image of something. I used an older version on adobe and came up with the image. Do you know anyone who is a pro in finding hidden imaging's like this? Because if it is a real seal where is the signature stamp? I couldn't find any signature stamped on it like the decosta certificate has. This is an image of something and a pro can get it more visible.

Using adobe photo shop Joe used overlay 9% black then went over the area where the date is stamped on lower middle. and a image started to appear above the date.

So I used - filter, stylize, find edges.

An image that could be an official seal appeared.

And while the Israel Insider opined, "Nothing else explains why Obama's campaign refused to release the original paper document, to make this distracting controversy go way"

Because Hollyfield is right about one thing:

"If this document is forged, a U.S. senator and his presidential campaign have perpetrated a vast, long-term fraud."

U.S. citizens who have written to Israel Insider or have posted on the Internet are not satisfied. Ordinary people are compelled to produce certified paper birth certificates to get a passport or a driver's license. Why, people are asking, doesn't Obama needed to show one to run for President?

But I believe the Obama campaign would deliberately keep such a question alive to diminish the veracity of the real scandals Obama is guilty of (Rezko, Auchi, Wright, Nation of Islam, Malley, Powers, Odinga, corruption, lies etc.)

The Israel Insider has another article on the lack of veracity of Obama's birth certificate based on the absence of a seal, but it's there.

As Obama stonewalls on uncertified birth certificate, official doubts mount Israel Insider Barack Obama has claimed in writing to have a valid printed document: In the first chapter of his book Dreams From My Father, describing his origins, he wrote about finding a local Hawaiian newspaper article about his Kenyan father: "I discovered this article, folded away among my birth certificate and old vaccination forms, when I was in high school."

So where is that birth certificate? It got lost? The dog ate it? No matter. Barack Obama or an immediate family member can plunk down $10 ($11.50 if he orders online) and have Hawaii mail a certified document to him within a week or two. But more than two weeks have passed since the Obama campaign adopted the suspect, uncertified image of a purported birth document published by a left-wing blog Daily Kos, and nothing certified and nothing on paper has since has been forthcoming. Nor has there been any official comment about the issue from the campaign. They may cling to the hope -- however audacious -- that the one issue that could disqualify their man constitutionally from gaining the presidency will just go away.

Amy Hollyfield of the St. Petersburg Times, and a reporter for the paper's "Politifact" blog, said that she has been seeking the birth certificate "for months." She was frustrated: "Hawaii birth certificates aren't public record. Only family members can request copies, so when the campaign declined to give us one, we were stalled."

Finally, the campaign released the image (resembling the one at the top of this article). Hollyfield e-mailed it to the Hawaii Department of Health, which maintains such records, to ask if it was real.

"It's a valid Hawaii state birth certificate," spokesman Janice Okubo told us. Then the firestorm started.

The seal appears to be there. Click on the "Continue" link below for a video demonstration.

[Kevmo]

I think someone answered that upthread, something about the embosser getting Carpal Tunnel Syndrome.

[The_Reader_David]

The question is whether the result is reproducable. We all have a copy of the Kos’s digitized image. If the feeble mirror-imaged seal is there, anyone using the image enhancement capabilities of Photoshop (or probably The GIMP) should be able to see it. Mission or no mission, a reproducable result would show the image is a scan of a certificate with a raised seal.

(Or, I suppose an really amazing fake in which the fakers had the wit to put in a faked image of a raised seal that was so faint that it could only be detected by image enhancement. In which case, I propose that the whole thing was constructed by the gunman from the grassy knoll using technology from the Roswell crash.)

[Kevmo]

My wife has a valid U.S. passport and she was born in Taiwan.

[Kevmo]

All he has to do is release it. Period. Why this is so hard for him to do is just bizarre.
***I can think of 2 reasons why Obama has not released it:
1) because he does not have a valid birth certificate
2) because he has a valid one and this is all a misdirection ploy.

[Kevmo]

How do you think that might work for you if you flat out ignored a potential employer’s request for documentation that would conclusively prove your identity and ensure their compliance with the law?
***I wouldn’t get the job. But things are different in politics, where the rules get rewritten when the democrats don’t like the rules.

[Kevmo]

Please let us know when that new one gets posted.

[Kevmo]

Even the forged birth certificate doesn’t meet the 5 year rule. It’s like saying “we have this birth certificate that shows he’s a natural-born citizen, and he’s 32 years old”. Since the requirements of the office are that he should be 35 years minimum, he is not eligible.

Of course, the democratic party will fall all over themselves to have such a rule changed so that it doesn’t apply to Obama.

[Kevmo]

Someone like Doug From Upland needs to file suit.

[McGruff]

..one of Pamela Geller's readers did some heavy-lifting with Photoshop and discovered what appears to be an embossed seal on the back of Obama's certificate.

Maybe I'm wrong here but I haven't heard anyone else say that this is an actual piece of paper not just a electronic copy (.JPG). If so Osama could easily embarrass the hell out of us but Waving it in front of some cameras. Where's that Peace in our Time photoshop job?.

[ml/nj]

The cert is real and there is nothing that points to it being a fake

How about the simple fact that it hasn't been folded?

ML/NJ

[bomza]

Regarding telling you when “that new one gets posted”...

All I can say is it’s in the hands of someone else now who is doing a story and they were waiting to get a slightly better scan of “that new one” to compare to Obama’s.

But this “Filed By Registrar” vs. “Accepted By State Registrar” thing is not an issue. I have seen non-Obama scans that say one or the other.

But there are other serious shoes about to drop... Stay tuned...

[Kevmo]

But there are other serious shoes about to drop... Stay tuned...
***Here’s one shoe dropping:

Proof positive that Photoshop was used on the BC image posted in the Daily Kos
Townhall ^ | 6/29/08 | Polarik

Posted on Monday, June 30, 2008 8:33:59 AM by freespirited

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2038597/posts

[steve86]

The BCs I picked up in connection with a guardianship are not folded. Maybe only ones mailed out are folded?

I agree with something in the original article— Obama’s camp is keeping this red herring BC issue alive (although his cert is fine) because it districts people from investigating real issues.

[usmcobra]

Here is my honest opinion,

Obama has a number of "legal" Birth certificates.

His originals include:

1)One where his father's name is not on it and only his mother's name is, Place of birth unknown, with his original name unknown, but quite possibly was "Stanley Dunham"

2)One that his father created for him having him born in what is now Kenya, this is the Kenya Obama Family one from which they make the claim that Barack was born there This one list him as Barack Hussein Obama II (his father not possibly understanding the concept of "Junior").

3)The one his Step Father Lolo Soetoro had issued when he was legally adopted in Indonesia, this one changed his name from Stanley Dunham to Barry Soetoro, this one was issued to make Barry Soetoro an Indonesia citizen and get him an Indonesian passport.

4)The One his grandparents got for him after his mother's divorce that changed his name to Barack Hussein Obama II after they talked with his Father in Hawaii about it.

Barry Soetoro and his Dad in Hawaii before his name was changed to Barack Hussein Obama II and his Grand Parents were given his Kenyan Birth certificate,

5) the latest one that has been and will be sanitized for Barack's protection, this is the one that closely resembles the phony that we have been given to scrutinize so that a near prefect forgery can be produced after we have studied it to the Nth degree and the forgers can address all our concerns on the crude version posted at the DailyKOS.

ALL OF THE ABOVE IS PURELY SPECULATION BASED UPON OBAMA'S OWN VERSIONS OF HIS LIFE AS RECORDED IN BOOKS AND BLOGS.

I saved the original version that the daily Kos posted and cannot duplicate the efforts that reveal the seal using the methods they described.

[doug from upland]

I’m busy with Hillary and Marvel. :)

[research99]

Granted, the birth certificate verification issue is relevant (although as-of-yet unsolved), however there is another controversy (that is rather easily solved):

Did BO register with the Selective Service when he was required to, back in the early 1980's?

All that's needed is a birthdate (widely available) and a SSN (which could be pulled from public documents, such as mortgage deeds filed by BO in the 1990's in Cook County, Chicago), and the question could be searched online at the Selective Service page.

DO ANY CHICAGO AREA FREEPERS, WANT TO DONATE AN HOUR'S WORTH OF RESEARCH, TH SETTLE THIS QUESTION?

For further information, see the link below (mortgage document numbers, are listed on post #86). I'm reposting this here, per requests.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2027653/posts

[Kevmo]

Did BO register with the Selective Service when he was required to, back in the early 1980’s?
***I can state first hand and categorically that this line of inquiry will get you nowhere. I registered for the draft back in the early 1980’s and never thought much about it. Then in the 90’s I applied for financial aid. They said that I didn’t qualify because I supposedly didn’t register for the draft, which is a bunch of hogwash. (You can look through my posting history here on FR to see that I’ve discussed this topic.) So I tried to register at that time. I was told that I was too OLD to register. So, as far as I’m concerned, if Obama says he registered for the draft, his word (as weak as it is) is worth more than the draft board. Those people have a serious need of a cephalorectomy.

[ml/nj]

The BCs I picked up in connection with a guardianship are not folded.

Are these Hawaiian? The reports I read quoted some Hawaiian bureaucrat saying that all such certifications were mailed. They couldn't be picked up, and that they were never mailed flat.

ML/NJ

[research99]

Granted, the SS probably isn't a perfect agency. But I registered, and my registration comes up on the public database.

But more to the point, how much more relevant could it be (as a campaign issue), that a candidate for Commander-In-Chief follow the law (regarding eligibility for military service)?

Don't you feel, that it's worth (maybe) an hour of research time, particularly when this issue can be proven via public records (as opposed to speculation involving private records)?

[FFranco]

That would only apply if Obama was born Outside of the US. If he was born in Hawaii (or anywhere else in America) he is a natural born citizen under the 14th Amendment.