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Alleged killer of S.F. father and 2 sons ordered held without bail (MS-13 gang member)
SFGate.com ^ | 6/27/08 | Jaxon Van Derbeken

Posted on 06/27/2008 8:38:31 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

SAN FRANCISCO -- The man charged with murdering a San Francisco father and two sons during a traffic incident appeared in court today and listened quietly as he was ordered held without bail.

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He appeared shackled at the waist in a jail jumpsuit, a large tattoo of the Salvadoran national crest visible on the back of his closely shaved head. ...

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The three murder counts carry special circumstances of multiple murder and murder as part of a street gang, which both carry the potential of life imprisonment without parole or the death penalty.

Police say Ramos is a member of the Mara Salvatrucha (MS-13) gang, but authorities have not said how the killings were gang motivated.

District Attorney Kamala Harris has previously said she would never seek the death penalty, and has not done so since taking office in 2004. Tony Bologna's widow, Danielle Bologna, has urged her to seek capital punishment in this case.

Harris, who was not in court Friday, has set up a process in which prosecutors meet to determine whether to seek the death penalty. Typically, prosecutors take several months before declaring that they will not seek capital punishment.

The district attorney established that system after being criticized for taking just days after an arrest in the 2004 slaying of police Officer Isaac Espinoza to rule out the death penalty for the suspect. David Hill was eventually convicted of murdering Espinoza and sentenced to life without parole.

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Ramos' immigration status has become a side issue in the case. O'Sullivan says Ramos is in the country legally and has applied for permanent residence here. But Virginia Kice, spokeswoman for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, said Friday that the agency believes he is an illegal immigrant and has put an immigration hold on him.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; alleged; california; crimaliens; criminalaliens; gangs; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; kamalaharris; killer; ms13; sanfrancisco
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To: montag813

i would hope that this could be part of any sentence where a gang is involved, but that’s probably cruel to remove their tat


41 posted on 06/27/2008 11:29:38 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: NormsRevenge

If Kamala Harris’s family is the next victim of an Ilegal that would change her PC little butt around.


42 posted on 06/28/2008 12:15:04 AM PDT by NoLibZone (When Shall We Have The Courage Our Founders Had? It's Time For The 2nd American Revolution.)
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To: montag813

EVERY MS13 caught should be released into the general pop with the tat ChoMo on thier foreheads.


43 posted on 06/28/2008 12:18:23 AM PDT by NoLibZone (When Shall We Have The Courage Our Founders Had? It's Time For The 2nd American Revolution.)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
ICE, in typical fashion, wants to deport him.

I would support this with the condition that the Salvadoran authorities must go medieval on him.

44 posted on 06/28/2008 12:25:35 AM PDT by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: NormsRevenge

Bologna Family
Victims of insane leftie policies


Edwin Ramos
Illegal alien suspect in cold blooded murders


Kamala Harris
Accomplice and idiot

45 posted on 06/28/2008 1:43:12 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: 353FMG

Unless that DA simply turns him loose or arranges a community service plea bargain.She is fanatically against the death penalty and apparently against punishment of any sort. Since every criminal is a product of a social situation then every criminal is exempt.


46 posted on 06/28/2008 5:50:28 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


47 posted on 06/28/2008 10:44:44 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: NormsRevenge
This is the criminal Michael Savage was talking about last night.

Apparently, the DA, Kamela Harris, had already released this MS-13 thug once before from police custody. The cops stopped him and another MS-13 member with an illegal gun in his car that had been used the day before in another murder - but Harris said there was not enough evidence to hold him for trial so he was released.

Then he comes back another day to do this.

I guess being an illegal alien wandering freely around, an MS-13 gang member, and having an illegal pistol involved in murder in his possession isn't enough to draw the attention of the DA's Office in San Fagscisco. One must to do something really heinous - like saying out loud that homosexuality is wrong - to get arrested and tried in this reprobate jurisdiction.

The DA shares culpability in this awful crime. She should be thrown in jail with the rest of the gangbangers.

48 posted on 06/28/2008 1:25:07 PM PDT by Gritty (The 'moral superiority' of our elites smugly masks their own massive moral paralysis - Diana West)
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To: G-Bob

“A suspected gang member accused of killing a father and two sons escaped prosecution in a weapons case earlier this year”

Even if the weapons case didn’t pan out, as a “suspected” gang member (MS13 TATOOED!!) shouldn’t he have been arrested in this earlier case? I thought it was a (Federal) criminal offense to be a MS13 gang member in this country.


49 posted on 06/28/2008 1:32:00 PM PDT by Kimberly GG (Don't blame me.....I support DUNCAN HUNTER.)
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To: machogirl
girl (?) gov, we got one of those

Sorry to hear that.

I've adopted the "no chicks" policy just like the Democrats.

50 posted on 06/28/2008 6:31:56 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper

were just not sure how “girl” she is


51 posted on 06/29/2008 12:05:23 AM PDT by machogirl
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