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Alleged killer of S.F. father and 2 sons ordered held without bail (MS-13 gang member)
SFGate.com ^ | 6/27/08 | Jaxon Van Derbeken

Posted on 06/27/2008 8:38:31 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

SAN FRANCISCO -- The man charged with murdering a San Francisco father and two sons during a traffic incident appeared in court today and listened quietly as he was ordered held without bail.

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He appeared shackled at the waist in a jail jumpsuit, a large tattoo of the Salvadoran national crest visible on the back of his closely shaved head. ...

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The three murder counts carry special circumstances of multiple murder and murder as part of a street gang, which both carry the potential of life imprisonment without parole or the death penalty.

Police say Ramos is a member of the Mara Salvatrucha (MS-13) gang, but authorities have not said how the killings were gang motivated.

District Attorney Kamala Harris has previously said she would never seek the death penalty, and has not done so since taking office in 2004. Tony Bologna's widow, Danielle Bologna, has urged her to seek capital punishment in this case.

Harris, who was not in court Friday, has set up a process in which prosecutors meet to determine whether to seek the death penalty. Typically, prosecutors take several months before declaring that they will not seek capital punishment.

The district attorney established that system after being criticized for taking just days after an arrest in the 2004 slaying of police Officer Isaac Espinoza to rule out the death penalty for the suspect. David Hill was eventually convicted of murdering Espinoza and sentenced to life without parole.

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Ramos' immigration status has become a side issue in the case. O'Sullivan says Ramos is in the country legally and has applied for permanent residence here. But Virginia Kice, spokeswoman for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, said Friday that the agency believes he is an illegal immigrant and has put an immigration hold on him.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; alleged; california; crimaliens; criminalaliens; gangs; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; kamalaharris; killer; ms13; sanfrancisco
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1 posted on 06/27/2008 8:38:31 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

“..has applied for permanent residence..”

He’ll get it in San Quentin.


3 posted on 06/27/2008 8:41:27 PM PDT by 353FMG (What marxism and fascism could not destroy, liberalism did.)
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To: NormsRevenge

The Death Penalty in CA?

Oh, he might die in prison, but it won’t be at the hand of the State of Kalifornia...


4 posted on 06/27/2008 8:41:54 PM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Obamao v Mad Jon, win the battle and lose the war..choice of evils be..)
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To: NormsRevenge

Just doing the work our criminals will not do.


5 posted on 06/27/2008 8:42:24 PM PDT by Exton1
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To: NormsRevenge
He should never see the light of day ever again...


6 posted on 06/27/2008 8:42:56 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: NormsRevenge

Unfortunately, the DA that will oversee this case doesn’t believe in the death penalty. Not that that matters, the death penalty is a joke in CA.


7 posted on 06/27/2008 8:43:54 PM PDT by doc1019 (I was taught to respect my elders, but it's getting harder to find one.)
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To: NormsRevenge

ice can deport him after he’s dead


8 posted on 06/27/2008 8:46:07 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: NormsRevenge

from her website: (take note of last sentence, sounds familiar - change)

Smart On Crime

Since her election in 2003, Kamala Harris has proved herself to be a District Attorney who not only stands her ground, but breaks new ground in the fight to fix our system of criminal justice.

Her pledge is to move beyond the false choice of being “tough” or “soft” on crime. Kamala Harris is smart on crime...and it’s working.

She’s put more violent and serious felons in state prison, cracked down on gang and gun violence, and protected neighborhoods from drug dealers and quality of life crimes.

At the same time, she’s safeguarded medical marijuana, reached out to keep youth away from violence, and pioneered innovative programs to help men and women released from jail get back on track.

Please take a few moments to see for yourself what Kamala has accomplished, and then get involved in her campaign for change.


9 posted on 06/27/2008 8:48:15 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: NormsRevenge

Boyfriend: Willie Brown (Mayor of San Francisco, ex)
Boyfriend: Phil Bronstein (San Francisco Chronicle editor, together 2004)


10 posted on 06/27/2008 8:50:30 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: NormsRevenge
District Attorney Kamala Harris has previously said she would never seek the death penalty, and has not done so since taking office in 2004. Tony Bologna's widow, Danielle Bologna, has urged her to seek capital punishment in this case.

What was this family (assuming they were normal) doing in a place like San Fransicko in the first place?
Of COURSE, Harris will not seek the death penalty.

11 posted on 06/27/2008 8:53:48 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: machogirl

You took the words right out of my mouth.

ICE, in typical fashion, wants to deport him.

You and I want to put this killer on ICE, and then deport his ass, or what is left of it.

SF D.A. Should put her in jail too. Make nicey, nicey with the inmates. Would fix her ass real soon. Then maybe she’d get a pair and execute these scum. NAH - it’s San Francisco. What else can I say about that place?


12 posted on 06/27/2008 8:55:45 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

she’s also a member of americans for obama, something like that


13 posted on 06/27/2008 8:57:18 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: NormsRevenge
District Attorney Kamala Harris has previously said she would never seek the death penalty, and has not done so since taking office in 2004.

In Texas, prosecutors never seeking the death penalty (when warranted) are committing a capital offense.

California deserves whatever it gets for tolerating this from public officials.

14 posted on 06/27/2008 9:00:23 PM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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But Virginia Kice, spokeswoman for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, said Friday that the agency believes he is an illegal immigrant and has put an immigration hold on him

Good. I'm sure glad ICE is on this. This guy could have done something bad...

15 posted on 06/27/2008 9:01:24 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: machogirl
Girl D.A.

That's a winner.

We have one of those here.

16 posted on 06/27/2008 9:01:45 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper

girl (?) gov, we got one of those


17 posted on 06/27/2008 9:06:27 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: doc1019
...the death penalty is a joke in CA.

When was capital punishment last carried out in CA? Just wondering.

18 posted on 06/27/2008 9:07:24 PM PDT by IIntense (o)
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To: 353FMG

“large tattoo of the Salvadoran national crest”

why don’t we laser that off, and give him a girly-man tattoo before he goes in?


19 posted on 06/27/2008 9:07:36 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: machogirl
She’s put more violent and serious felons in state prison, cracked down on gang and gun violence, and protected neighborhoods from drug dealers and quality of life crimes.

Oh brother. Here. Let me go barf now.

20 posted on 06/27/2008 9:11:41 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Barack Hussein Obama=Jimmy Carter II)
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