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SAF CALLS CHICAGO TRIBUNE PLEA TO REPEAL 2d Admentment ‘UNCONSCIONABLE’
2d Amendment Foundation ^ | June 27, 2008 | Email from 2d Amendment Foundation

Posted on 06/27/2008 5:13:44 PM PDT by RetiredArmy

NEWS RELEASE

SAF CALLS CHICAGO TRIBUNE PLEA TO REPEAL 2A ‘UNCONSCIONABLE’

BELLEVUE, WA – The Chicago Tribune’s call for repeal of the Second Amendment following the historic Heller Decision is an “unconscionable attack on the entire Bill of Rights and the freedoms it protects,” the Second Amendment Foundation said today.

In an editorial published on the day after the Supreme Court handed down its 5-4 ruling, the newspaper called the Second Amendment an “anachronism” that should be repealed. The newspaper supported its argument by falsely claiming that a 1939 case, U.S. v Miller, established the amendment as a “collective right” that applied only to service in some type of militia.

“The Chicago Tribune’s editors have demonstrated an appalling short-sightedness,” said SAF founder Alan Gottlieb. “If they are so willing to abandon one civil right for an entire class of American citizens, what’s next? Perhaps they would strip some citizens of their First Amendment rights to free speech or religion. Heaven help us should the Chicago Tribune editorial board one day decide that they don’t care for the editorial slant of their competitors at the Sun-Times, and call for a restriction on that newspaper’s freedom of the press.

“Once you make it acceptable to destroy one civil right,” Gottlieb observed, “it does not take a very big leap to embrace limitations on, or the abolition of, another civil right.

“Not once, in all the years that gun rights organizations have been vilified in the editorial columns of the Tribune and other newspapers did anyone from the firearms community suggest we should repeal the First Amendment,” he stated. “Unlike elitist newspaper editors, gun owners understand that the Bill of Rights is an all-or-nothing document, not a civil rights buffet from which we can pick and choose the rights we want to enjoy and those for which we have no stomach.

“We have always known the Second Amendment affirmed an individual civil right, and a truly objective reading of history by the Chicago Tribune would – if they had any notion of objectivity – lead them to the same conclusion,” Gottlieb concluded. “A generation of parents and grandparents of those now writing such nonsense in the Tribune risked, and all too frequently lost their lives to defend all of the freedoms enumerated in the Bill of Rights. The Tribune editors may as well just spit on their graves.”

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2damendment; banglist; billofrights; heller; secondamendment; shallnotbeinfringed
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To: Eagle Eye

Sigh, as right as you are we barely got 5 justices to agree on this, if you read Kennedy’s concurring opinion he is itching to make clear that while it is individual right it is subject to reasonable regulation.

As an aside, Chicago has already announced it is going to ignore the decision, claiming the right does not apply to state (as opposed to federal) action. First round has been narrowly won, but now the real fun begins.


41 posted on 06/27/2008 6:53:21 PM PDT by Steelerfan
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To: BobL

Bravo and dittoes.

Let anybody who wants to change the Constitution use the system laid down by the FFs, not depend on Justice Kennedy’s whim of the day.


42 posted on 06/27/2008 6:59:13 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves. - A. Lincoln)
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To: txroadkill
Except that none of the first 10 amendments (Bill of Rights) can be "deleted".

Incorrect. The only part of the original Constitution that was written to be unchangeable was the delay before laws could be passed against the importation of slaves. 20 years, if I remember correctly.

The idea was kicked around again in several amendments that were proposed to appease the Slave Power in 1860, but never got anywhere.

You can make a moral case that the Bill of Rights is irremoveable because they are just enumerations of our "unalienable rights" we received from God, but you can't make a case that the Constitution itself prevents any change whatsoever, as long as you go through the unbelievably arduous amendment process. This process ensures that no amendment can be passed without almost unanimous support by the people. Which works for me.

43 posted on 06/27/2008 7:13:16 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves. - A. Lincoln)
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To: RetiredArmy
We are the only country in the world that could tell the government to do what we want or we could take over by force of arms.

Beg to differ. Any almost universal revolt by the American people against their government, which includes the military, would be unable to "take over" as long as the military stuck by the government.

Such a widespread revolt might indeed make it very difficult for the government to enforce its will everywhere, perhaps impossible if the military would be unwilling to use extreme measures. But that's a very different issue from "the people" being able to defeat the government and its military.

Your statement would have been true up to about 1939, not since.

Since military men take an oath to the Constitution, not to the government, I don't get heartburn over this. I cannot imagine any issue that would divide the people sufficiently to lead to civil war that would not also divide the military. God forbid it ever comes to this.

44 posted on 06/27/2008 7:20:22 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves. - A. Lincoln)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

“introducing communism into a country is tough when the populace is armed.”

such beautiful words.

those democrat scu&bags in congress are holding back their anti-gun sentiments. apparently, they’re waiting until the “american electorate” elects them en-masse to both houses and the presidency. then watch the drip, drip of constant assault on one of the final things standing in their way; an armed populace that knows the face of evil when it sees it and one that has freedom in its blood.

IMHO


45 posted on 06/27/2008 7:51:51 PM PDT by ripley
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To: txroadkill
Except that none of the first 10 amendments (Bill of Rights) can be "deleted". In order to protect the minority from the majority, the founding fathers made sure of that.

What part of the Constitution says that?

If an amendment were legitimately ratified that in clear and unambiguous terms gave the President the authority to seize anyone's property he wanted for any reason and without compensation, the President would have that authority. That having been said, I can't imagine 38 state legislatures ratifying such a thing.

Given that 38 states already allow law-abiding citizens to carry weapons for self-defense, I'm rather curious why the Tribune would expect 26 of those states to ratify an amendment to disarm their citizens. If HCI et al. want to introduce such an amendment, let them go ahead. I'd rather have them trying to amend the Constitution de jure than have judges modify it de facto.

46 posted on 06/27/2008 8:48:50 PM PDT by supercat
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To: monkeycard
Anyone know who owns the chicago tribune?

Ownership of Chicago Tribune Group

In April 2007 the Chicago-based Tribune Group announced that it had agreed to be acquired by property billionaire Sam Zell in a US$8.4 billion takeover.
...
In 1991 the News was acquired by Robert Maxwell, whether as a diversion or to spite Rupert Murdoch (owner of the New York Daily Post). The paper went into receivership with Maxwell's death that year and in 1993 was purchased by property magnate Mortimer Zuckerman.

47 posted on 06/27/2008 9:03:51 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: goldstategop
Let's repeal the First Amendment. We don't need freedom of speech and the press any more

Isnt' that pretty much what the Supreme Court said when ruling on McCain-Fiengold "campaign finance reform"?

48 posted on 06/27/2008 9:18:43 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

As a Chicagoan, I am looking forward to the repeal of many of the city’s gun laws. With more armed law-abiders, the city will be a lot safer.


49 posted on 06/27/2008 9:19:59 PM PDT by Thane_Banquo ("Give a man a fish, make him a Democrat. Teach a man to fish, make him a Republican.")
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To: Steelerfan
if you read Kennedy’s concurring opinion he is itching to make clear that while it is individual right it is subject to reasonable regulation.

Umm. What Kennedy concurring opinion? There were no concurring opinions written. There were two dissenting opinions by Stevens and Bryer. All of four in the minority either authored or concurred in both dissenting opinions.

FWIW, my lawyer daughter called Bryer's opinion, "Just Crazy".

50 posted on 06/27/2008 9:28:48 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Roccus
” that one of the reasons we even have a First Amendment is the Second Amendment.”

Amazing too that the founders put them in that specific order.

1. You can say anything you want (particularly sbout the government).

2. You have the right to be armed (to protect that right to speak freely).

Many do not pay as close attention to the document and the time they took to write it as the founders did. They were careful and deliberate, and many say obviously divinely guided.

It has never been matched in any country since. How dare the libs think they know better.

51 posted on 06/27/2008 9:43:16 PM PDT by JSteff (This election is about the 3 to 5 supreme's who will retire in the next 8 years, vote accordingly.)
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To: Travis McGee
Even as bad as things sometimes are with the libs, the idea of CW2 is abhorrent.

Partly because it means we were not able to convince enough people of our position and beliefs.

52 posted on 06/27/2008 9:59:33 PM PDT by JSteff (This election is about the 3 to 5 supreme's who will retire in the next 8 years, vote accordingly.)
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To: ConfidentConservative

Nice. Thank you!


53 posted on 06/27/2008 10:12:38 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Thane_Banquo

I didn’t mean to insult your city. I am originally from Cleveland and a big city needs responsible gun owners.
Here in Florida our crime is less in many areas because of armed citizens.


54 posted on 06/28/2008 4:32:23 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (WE NEED A TROOP SURGE IN CHICAGO !)
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To: El Gato

Thank for the information, appreciate it.


55 posted on 06/28/2008 5:30:23 AM PDT by monkeycard (There's no such thing as too much ammo.)
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To: RetiredArmy

We must attack and free Chicago now.


56 posted on 06/28/2008 5:39:01 AM PDT by bmwcyle (If God wanted us to be Socialist, Karl Marx would have been born in America.)
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To: RetiredArmy

Such a call should be thwarted with an ammendment to the First ammendment that muzzles big press. The press is our worst enemy


57 posted on 06/28/2008 5:41:54 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Conservation? Let the NE Yankees freeze.... in the dark)
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To: Sherman Logan
Beg to differ. Any almost universal revolt by the American people against their government, which includes the military, would be unable to "take over" as long as the military stuck by the government.

Such a revolt would not be against just the military. It would target the entirety of the federal government: politicians, bureaucrats, file clerks and secretaries. And without people to administer the payroll, buy ammo, and pay for stuff, the army ceases to exist

A few years back, just two men (the "DC snipers") came close to shutting down DC. Visualize the effect of a few hundred individuals deciding to become quiet serial killers of federal employees.

Put more succinctly, in the movie "Fight Club" to a certain politician: "Look, the people you are after are the people you depend on. We cook your meals. We haul your trash. We connect your calls. We drive your ambulances. We guard you while you sleep. Do NOT f**k with us."

58 posted on 06/28/2008 5:58:48 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." -- George Orwell)
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To: PapaBear3625
Beg to differ. The elite of several nations successfully enslaved those nations: the PRC, USSR, North Korea, Cuba, etc. No reason we can do it here. There is a plentiful supply of sheeple so the loss of balky “free” Americans wouldn't bother our elites.

If the Federales start a “political” military along the lines of the KGB, SS, Republican Guard, etc., you the know the end is here. (Arguably, in various militarized law enforcement organizations, like the FBI and BATFE, they have already begun the process...)

59 posted on 06/28/2008 6:22:12 AM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a Conservative. But I can vote for John McCain. If I have to. I guess.)
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To: dinodino

Ah, ci cago, so expert on the elimination of crime and such a breeder of clean politicians better than the rest of us.


60 posted on 06/28/2008 6:46:10 AM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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