Posted on 06/27/2008 2:04:21 PM PDT by EveningStar
Louisiana governor Bobby Jindal has signed a stealth creationist bill into law, and American educational standards take a huge step backward: Science law could set tone for Jindal.
The creationist front group called the Discovery Institute is quietly crowing, and maintaining the fiction that the bill is not religiously-based.
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You have a replacement philosophy, not a separation between a philosophy and an empirical standard.
People who look to science as the ultimate authority do so from a philosophical POV. The decision that naturalism is the ultimate authority is a philosophical one, not an empirical one. You should learn the difference between the two.
You should also learn the difference between methodological naturalism and philosophical naturalism. People who look to science as the ultimate arbiter of truth do so through philosophical naturalism, not methodological naturalism. They also prefer to conflate the two and that is a philosophical decision, not an empirical one.
He won’t accept it from nobodies like them; he’s appealing to the ultimate authority: He wants me to prove it ;o)
And you come back with nothing but a quote you don’t even understand. Keep thinking you are the center of the Universe. It amuses me.
You claim to be a believer, but don’t even understand the stated purpose of the creation. Sad!
Clueless!
Here is a clue.
The mass of the Earth is known. The mass of the sun is known. Small masses such as the Earth are caught up in the gravity of and orbit large masses that they are in proximity to, such as the Sun.
The force that the Sun exerts on the earth is calculable, measurable and observable. Compared to that you have no Bible citation to support you, no fundamental force like gravity that would make your model work, no mathematics, no observations, nothing but a quote that either coordinate system is equally valid while you insist that the coordinate system you prefer is MORE valid while declining to explain how it could be that a force could move the mass of the Sun while leaving the Earth motionless. Must be Angelic forces that are commanded to not touch the Earth, because Natural Gravitational forces are under no such compunction.
Thanks for showing that once you discount Biology, that Astronomy is next, and your progress is stymied somewhere back in the 16th Century.
The church supported the most supported theory of the time. Better than those anti-science folks who refuse to budge in what they think no matter the evidence.
To the neophyte, everything is a strawman or an ad hominem. Never a reductio ad absurdum or an ad populum.
Oh...and my point in noting that was to counter the idea that “God-haters” came up with science to debunk God as so many IDers seem to assert subtly.
My father used to say
“When all you have is a hammer, problems look like nails.”
What you're doing to the Bible is the equivalent of looking at a cloud and seeing a fluffy bunny. It is itself born suspect.
Apparently you are an inerrantist, so I don't think there's much more to say. NO evidence, no matter how valid, can convince you of anything since it must be dismissed if it disagrees with the Bible. I just can't talk science with a person like that because the worldview is anathema to science.
Looking at this exchange, all I can see is you covering your ears going “Nananana, I can’t hear you nanananana...”
Great sig though. :)
The Home: NO
The Church: NO
Parochial schools: NO
Public schools: YES
One has to wonder if this is all a coincidence.
Certainly no more than yours!
There, fixed it anti! You should drop the rest of your screen name.
Have a nice day. I'm off to buy a gas guzzler.
And the solution to joints that don't fit becomes pounding dents in the board until it's not fit to use at all.
Cool. What kind?
Saying data must be thrown out because it disagrees with a religious text is certainly not a scientific approach.
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