Posted on 06/21/2008 7:21:19 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB
Two people were hospitalized after being shot Saturday afternoon at the Juneteenth celebration in Theodore Wirth Park.
Mike Kinghorn, 23, was shot in the ankle and an unidentified female was shot in the leg. Neither person was expected to be in the hospital very long.
The shooting happened just after 5:30 p.m.
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need it be said that if they want to kill their own, what can we do, but its a whole 'nother story when they explicitly leave their hoods and come looking for whites.....
VERY rare. The funniest thing about the "fear of violent thugs" is that your typical white person (such as myself) is not likely to encounter gangstah thugs. As a matter of fact, as a white guy I am more likely (per Justice Department statistics) to get killed by my girlfriend than the Crips.
Occasionally, you have cases like Wichita and Knoxville, but such cases are few and far between. Most black thugs kill other black thugs, and don't go "looking for whiteys to kill."
Come for a visit to Philadelphia. I'll fix you up in ten minutes.
Besides, the thugs are nowhere near as scary as the meth whores who hang around Frankford in Kensington.
My comment still stands. If you live in a nabe where the thugs congregate, you obviously didn't live in a nice neighborhood to begin with.
The biggest danger in my neighborhood is being puked on by a drunken college student. The three times I have had to deal with the subject aggressors were at 2nd and Chestnut, 3rd and Spruce and 4th and Bainbridge: Old City, Society Hill, and South Street area. These were weekend nights on the town. Two times they were headed in the opposite direction at the sight of the hand grips. The third guy had me sized up wrong and realized his mistake without persuasion. Fortunately my ladyfriend is not a Sarah Brady follower. We're talking a spread of about 10 years. Public transportation makes getting downtown to get a paycheck very easy. I know I'm lucky that I never ran into anyone tougher.
Well, the problem is that you have a lot of black people in one place who haven’t thinned out that particular crowd before. I see it as a culture crash here in Cincinnati. Drunken blacks from the East side meet more drunken blacks from the West side (or equivalent other neighborhood) and Kapow! New faces on stretcher. Happens every year.
I was at the PA Convention Center with friends not long ago (they were there for the comic book convention and I drove up to have dinner with them). We went out to a bar afterward to hang out. It was okay inside, but outside was another story, especially in front of some of the more popular bars and clubs. From some of the looks guys were giving each other as they passed by it seemed like a fight would break out any second on the order of “Yo, don’tcha be lookin’ at my woman like dat!” Anyone who has spent time in cities knows the hair-trigger look.
I was glad to get in my truck and hot-foot it back across the county line, thank you very much.
I am not as certain as you that the difference you see is as real as you think.
From my perspective, if US Blacks want to have a holiday to celebrate the end of slavery, they should have it. It doesn't seem like a lot to ask to stretch the actual events a little and allow the whole country to celebrate. At least it isn't a phony "traditional" holiday made up out of whole cloth by a criminal, like Kwaanza, or however it is spelled this week.
Juneteenth is at least based on a real historical event of some significance. Maybe they were celebrating the events in Galveston.
Lets ask this. Do you do anything special for Mother's Day? You realize that "special day" was made up out of whole cloth by Hallmark in order to sell greeting cards.
A little historical revision seems a little harmless in light of he much greater frauds perpetrated on a willing American public.
How about the American History you learned in school? You might still think that the Americans won the Revolutionary War. The truth is that the French did all of the heavy lifting, and then forced the British to surrender to the Americans as a way of embarrassing them.
Lets concentrate on changing the negative behavior patterns associated with shooting people on a holiday, or any other day for that matter, instead of questioning the legitimacy of the holiday.
If your in the area, you know it seems to be open season on Starbucks employees. If you think about it it makes sense; Easy, peace-loving targets.
I stand corrected. After years of violence at Juneteenth, the white City elders relocated it to a small park in an upscale neighborhood, added lots of white people, eliminated alcohol consumption and rap music. About 100 people showed up and nobody was shot at the actual festival.
(sigh)
Okay, I’m going to be blunt. This is how I feel about the City of Philadelphia: as long as I’m upwind, not looking in its direction, and a safe distance away, I don’t care what happens to that place or the people living inside. Really. The good people should flee as soon as they can; as for the rest, I hope we have a REALLY hot summer. I mean, record-breaking, “what, you born on the sun?”, melt-concrete hot. Why? For some reason, there are less animals in the city after a heat wave. Go figure.
Interpret as you will. I’m exercising restraint.
Look, I have no problem with the descendants of slaves celebrating emancipation. A national holiday sounds fine.
My point is that it makes no sense that they would adopt Juneteenth instead of, say, the anniversary of Lincoln’s actual declaration. Getting good news two years after the fact is really sort of sad. Like I said, Juneteenth was a Texas black celebration for many years. The rest of the country didn’t even know about it.
I’m a Texan. I’m fully acquainted with Juneteenth. All my life, it’s been a time to avoid certain places and to lay low. Not a good tradition for the rest of the country to emulate. Surely we can do better.
And, yes, I’m fully aware that the French won the American Revolution. A tour guide at Versailles made it a point to enlighten me some years back.
I suggested to him that my Dad and his GI buddies had more than paid him back. Otherwise he’d be speaking German.
Dave, check your facts please re: Emancipation proclamation and Juneteenth. They are not celebrating the Emancipation Proclamation which occured on Sept. 12, 1863, but rather Texas’ announcement of the abolition of slavery on June 19. The announcement was specific to the state of Texas.
I went to a shooting and a Juneteenth celebration broke out.
Keep as much distance between you and a Septa stop as you can. (;>)
No, this is not Juneteenth, these are Odinga supporters rioting in December 2007(ODINGA IS BARAK OBMAMS FIRST COUSIN, OBAMA CAMPAIGNED FOR HIM IN KENYA IN 2006)
I understand that completely.
If they want to celebrate that instead of September 12, why are you so opposed?
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