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McCain-Lieberman Could Be Just the Ticket
Pajamas Media ^ | June 20, 2008 | Jennifer Rubin

Posted on 06/20/2008 6:55:56 PM PDT by CapnJack

From time to time a conservative pundit has suggested that John McCain choose a Democrat for his vice presidential running mate. That usually has been met with howls of derision from other conservatives who find the notion preposterous. But is it?

The main reason is obvious: the untimely demise of McCain would allow a Democrat to ascend to the White House, forfeiting his party’s victory and reversing the popular mandate for a Republican president. (Let’s leave aside for now whether a McCain victory would represent a Republican mandate or a miracle, despite his party affiliation.)

But let’s consider if one specific Democrat, Senator Joseph Lieberman, might make sense as a VP selection for McCain. McCain at times has fueled speculation about Lieberman with effusive praise:

“He’d be a great partner in any endeavor, including joining America together,” McCain said in response to a question on the Lieberman factor. “Let’s reach across the aisle, let’s work together for America. That’s what Joe Lieberman is all about.”

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008veep; bizarro; insaneasylum; lieberman; mccain; mccainiacs; rino
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To: boycott

Sept. 1998. When Joe pontificated, but just couldn’t bring himself to really criticize President Clinton for lying under oath and for getting serviced in the Oval Office by a government intern.

He whined and opined, but, you know, it was no big deal, really.

He’s also a global warming kook. Like a blind squirrel that finds a nut, he was good on the war on terror.

But the real courage Joe showed was that when the entire Democratic party turned their backs on him, forcing him to run(and win) as an Independent—this courageous man decides to then caucus with the .....Democrats. Yeah, a real profile in courage there.

Oh, and please don’t perform the abortions that he supports on a Saturday—it really offends his Orthodox Jewish sensibilities.


81 posted on 06/20/2008 8:07:42 PM PDT by exit82 (Are the environmentalists gonna pay my heating bill this winter?)
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To: billva

The dream RINO/DINO ticket.......Priceless!

82 posted on 06/20/2008 8:12:46 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Juan McCain....The lesser of Three Liberals.")
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To: CapnJack

If McCain does choose Lieberman (I hope not!) for VP, then what happens to that U.S. Senate seat? Does the Republican Governor get to appoint somebody to that seat, and, if she does, would she actually appoint a conservative to that U.S. Senate seat, despite her being a RINO Republican?


83 posted on 06/20/2008 8:34:55 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (Vote for conservatives AT ALL POLITICAL LEVELS! Encourage all others to do the same on November 4!)
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To: CapnJack

I have a strange affection for this ticket

I am less concerned about the positions a candidate takes,
than that they are honorable to what Vision they have been Appointed. I do not expect to agree with any man, nor do I expect them to agree with me. What I do expect is that each will be attentive to others words. I believe Lieberman is an honorable man, and worthy of praise, even if I disagree with him at many levels. It would not surprise me one bit if McCain were to attempt this “Bastard Union” as it would be entirely within His character to try to pull it off.

This would be a classic McCain move...


84 posted on 06/20/2008 8:38:27 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: CapnJack

Anything to defeat Obama, if required, it must be done


85 posted on 06/20/2008 8:53:00 PM PDT by dila813
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To: boycott
I like Joe. He’s one of the few straight shooters in D. C.

I do too, for that same reason. But I disagree with most of his domestic policies. I would extend a cabinet post to him because I think he has earned it. He does not belong on the R ticket however.

86 posted on 06/20/2008 8:54:03 PM PDT by Damifino (The true measure of a man is found in what he would do if he knew no one would ever find out.)
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To: CapnJack

How about McCain-Miller (Zell, that is)?

Or mabye McCain-Card (Orson Scott. . . yeah I know he has no political experience, but his good sense would still make him better Presidential timber than Obama with his what? four years in the Senate and under a decade as a state legislator?)


87 posted on 06/20/2008 8:56:21 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: CapnJack
The thought that the Rep. party would nominate two moderate Dems to the top of the ticket makes me think I'm living in Bazaro world.

We need at least one republican on the ticket to vote for. Don't we?

88 posted on 06/20/2008 9:10:22 PM PDT by Diago (The Truth About Margaret Sanger at http://margaretsanger.blogspot.com/)
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To: boycott

For crying out loud, he sponsored the $7 TRILLION tax disguised as a global warming bill that would destroy the economy. You wouldn’t be able to heat or cool your house or afford fuel for your car. And it would become a massive new welfare giveaway for the “poor” who couldn’t afford the artificially expensive fuels. He’s insane.


89 posted on 06/20/2008 9:14:56 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: peeps36

McCain doesn’t care about conservatives??? No way. That can’t possibly be true. Absolutely shocking.


90 posted on 06/20/2008 9:17:01 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: CapnJack
MCINSANE picks MYTH ROMNEY and I'm voting for this guy, he finall made it onto the ballot this year


Print story Subscribe to the Times

Election 2004

Presidential aspirations

By BRADY DENNIS
Published June 21, 2004

[Times photo: Chris Zuppa]
Ryan Adam Lipner, 20, shown in his office near Fort Lauderdale, wants to be president. "I just want my chance," he said. "I need to show America I'm serious." He plans to challenge the Constitution, which states a president must be at least 35.

FORT LAUDERDALE - The man who would be president is rolling south down Interstate 95 in a tired 1991 Mercedes, the odometer clicking past 135,589 miles.

The air conditioning doesn't work, so he has the windows down. It's not even 9 a.m., but the South Florida sun already has melted his hair gel. It trickles down his face, mixing with sweat.

He is 20, lives in an apartment with his father and works out of a closet-sized office in a rundown strip mall. He has a well-documented obsession with opening Hallmark gift card stores without the company's permission.

He runs red lights, curses like a sailor and wrestles a cocktail of mental problems, for which he takes medication. And he has filed so many lawsuits (158 in one month) that a federal judge has limited his right to sue.

And yet, he is smart, articulate and unfailingly honest about himself and his flaws. He dresses nicely - khaki pants, blue button-down shirt, silver wrist watch.

His name is Ryan Adam Lipner, and he wants to be president of the United States.

"I just want my chance," he said. "I need to show America I'm serious."

Lipner plans to challenge the Constitution, which states among other requirements that a president must be at least 35 years old.

"It'd be the biggest disappointment in America if the people voted someone in and he couldn't take office," he said. "If I win fair and square, regardless of my age, I should be allowed to be (president)."

In almost the next breath, he confesses that running also helps get him dates - "Girls love this," he said - an admission that shows the founders might have been wise to want a little maturity in their president.

Lipner is a cocky high school dropout barely out of his teens. He's also one of seven Floridians who have applied to run for president this year, according to the state Division of Elections.

Behind the names are candidates of all stripes, united by an impossible dream.* * *

Of the seven Floridians who filed paperwork to run for president, five have arrest records. Their various arrests include charges of shoplifting, carrying a concealed weapon, assault on a law enforcement officer, battery and fraud.

The candidates span the state, from tiny Cantonment in the northwest corner to massive Fort Lauderdale in South Florida.

One or two don't appear to have phone numbers, at least none they care to make public.

They are as young as Lipner and as old as 82-year-old Ray "Buttercup" Rollinson of Port St. Joe, fresh off his unsuccessful run for governor in 2002, when his platform included proposals to double the state homestead exemption, send every Florida voter an annual $800 check and place a Bible in every school classroom.

"You want to know the truth?" Rollinson told the Fort Lauderdale Sun-Sentinel in 2002. "The only reason I'm running for governor is to get some coverage to run for president."

Big aspirations, that man.

Several candidates have served in the military. Several are unemployed. A few have histories of mental illness. One man, Tom Wells in Cantonment, runs a synagogue out of his house.

He calls himself the "janitor" and says God told him to run for president so he could make abortion illegal. He also founded his own party, the Family Values Party.

One of Florida's presidential candidates is running as a Republican. One is running as a Democrat. The rest, besides Wells, aren't affiliated with any party.

Several candidates, like Lipner, actively campaign and seem serious about trying to win votes. Others, like St. Petersburg's Melanie Pridgen, take a more lighthearted approach.

"I was laid off from my last job, and I figured I need a job, so why not?" said the unemployed 45-year-old woman, who wants to legalize marijuana and improve the unemployment rate.

Her campaign slogan: "I'm the Proof Your Vote Doesn't Count."

And then there is Reality, who used to be known as Randy Stewart Samuels before he changed his name and filed to run for president. Unlike most presidential candidates, he seems shy about publicity.

He did not return calls to his home but always sounded chipper on the answering machine - "Hi, this is Reality. Please leave a message after the beep. Thank you."

A visit to his beige trailer with green shutters in Boynton Beach proved equally unfruitful. The sign out front read: "Do not enter or be subject to arrest."

No one answered a knock at the door.

Reality wasn't home. * * *

To say they face an uphill battle to win the White House is like saying the man on the moon has a long flight home.

For now, their names are on the list of candidates beside George W. Bush and John Kerry. Chances are that will change July 15, when candidates must meet certain qualifications in order to get on the state ballot.

Until then, it's easy for anyone to throw his name in the hat. It takes nothing more than filling out some paperwork and signing oaths. But there's no faking it after July.

The two major parties and any minor party that operates on a national level and holds a nominating convention will submit nominations for president and vice president, which are then placed on the ballot.

"(But) if you're an independent candidate or a minor party that doesn't operate on a national level, then you have to go through the petition method," said Jenny Nash, press secretary for Florida's Department of State. "That's 93,024 petitions that have to get signed to get on state ballot, equal to 1 percent of registered voters in Florida."

Not impossible, but certainly unlikely. Most of Florida's presidential hopefuls this year appear to have little or no support outside their own front doors.

And still they come, these fringe candidates. Year after year. Race after race. And not just in Florida.

If seven fringe candidates seems like a lot, consider last year's gubernatorial recall election in California. The contest drew 135 candidates, including a female adult-film star, former child actor Gary Coleman, watermelon-smashing comedian Gallagher and a sumo wrestler.

The right to run for office, no matter how little the chance of winning, is an inalienable American one, as well as an abiding source of amusement on the country's political scene. * * * >/b>

Ryan Lipner, when not fighting his own legal battles, charges a fee to help others fill out and file court papers properly.

He starts a recent morning by meeting a "client" in the parking lot of a Target store at 7:30 a.m. His day will end with a similar appointment at a nearby KFC.

In between, he makes his usual stops at the Broward County Courthouse and the nearby federal courthouse. He revels in the fact that most courthouse workers know him, even if they cast a look of weary recognition when he walks through the doors.

"When I see him coming, I just think, "Oh, God,' " said Vernice Thomas, an intake clerk at the federal courthouse.

Lipner flashes her a smug smile. "Make sure you vote for me," he tells her. "I'll lower your taxes. I'll raise your salary."

She rolls her eyes.

Back in the car, Lipner talks of buying television commercials, making campaign stops, giving speeches and naming his white husky dog, Jewels, as his running mate. He flashes the $1,139 in his wallet.

He doesn't seem to realize - or maybe he refuses to concede - that he's nothing more than a tiny footnote in this election season.

"I really think I'm going to give Bush a run for his money," he said. "I really believe America is going to get Ryan Lipner fever."

And with that, he guns the weathered Mercedes through another red light.[Last modified June 21, 2004, 01:00:30]


Florida headlines


91 posted on 06/20/2008 9:29:04 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: CapnJack

I am seriously considering the Constitution Party. I know, I’ll be wasting my vote, but it will be hard in good conscience to vote for McCain, no matter who his running mate is. What a sad election year.


92 posted on 06/20/2008 9:36:33 PM PDT by nobama08
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To: CharlesWayneCT
"If we could be relatively certain McCain wouldn’t die..."

Have you seen the size of that lump on McCain's left cheek lately. It looks like he's got a golf ball in his jaw. We'd better pray for a good VP, because I don't think Juan is going to be around long after his inauguration.

93 posted on 06/20/2008 10:20:09 PM PDT by holyscroller (A wise man's heart directs him toward the right, but the foolish man's heart directs him to the left)
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To: CapnJack

McCain/Thompson or McCain/Jindal. Anything else will be Dole/Kemp II.


94 posted on 06/20/2008 10:40:11 PM PDT by Captainpaintball
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To: aculeus
He should pick a woman.

Gov. Sara Palin fits the bill rather nicely.

95 posted on 06/20/2008 10:53:35 PM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: billva

McCain will never gain my vote. It isn’t about hate, it is about conservative principles — something many Republicans just don’t understand.


96 posted on 06/21/2008 6:33:53 AM PDT by TommyDale (I) (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: CapnJack
Just when I thought I'd heard it all.

LOL

Only in todays America.

Might as well face it folks; OBAMA 08

97 posted on 06/21/2008 7:58:52 AM PDT by Hillarys nightmare (So Proud to be living in "Jesus Land" ! Don't you wish everyone did?)
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To: JoJo Gunn

Is that worse than or better than an “Orwellian sewer” ?

JoJo, you need to go live on a desert island, where you don’t have to compromise anything.

You must be very depressed right now ?


98 posted on 07/05/2008 11:31:57 AM PDT by fuzzy dunlop
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To: CapnJack

I ain’t voting for McCain no matter who is on the ticket. But I have posted for a couple of months that McCain’s best chance is to go with Lieberman. That is what this election is all about any way, it is the run-off in the Democrat primary between an anti-war Democrat Barry and a pro-war Democrat in the RINO relic.


99 posted on 07/05/2008 11:47:52 AM PDT by Biblebelter
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To: Hillarys nightmare
My God, I have a groupie, resurrecting old threads. Those mug whores will stop at nothing.

*snort* 

 

McCain-Lieberman Could Be Just the Ticket

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fuzzy dunlop to JoJo Gunn

100 posted on 07/05/2008 12:04:33 PM PDT by JoJo Gunn (Help control the girly-man population. Have the McCainiacs spayed or neutered.)
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