Posted on 06/15/2008 4:48:09 PM PDT by driftdiver
A young Turlock man parked a pickup truck on a dark country road outside his Central Valley city Saturday night, removed a baby boy from a car seat and then viciously beat the child in the street, fighting off passersby who tried to stop him until he was fatally shot by a police officer whose helicopter landed in a nearby pasture, police said today.
The 27-year-old suspect died immediately where he fell. The child, who according to police appeared to be 12 to 24 months old, was rushed to a hospital but was soon pronounced dead as well.
Police officials declined to identify the man this morning and said they did not yet know who the child was - or what his relationship was to his attacker. No information was immediately available about the baby's mother.
The suspect "had tunnel vision," said Stanislaus County sheriff's deputy Royjindar Singh, a department spokesman. "As people tried to intervene, to tackle him, he just went back to what he was doing. Anything and everything he could do to the baby, that's what he was doing."
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you seem to be exhibiting symptons of faulty logic.
Are you kidding? That is up there with, and I'm sorry to be rude but, the dumbest things I have ever heard in my life. Every single time a cop does his or her job honorably, there is another side to it: the suspect's side and his/her buddies who try to claim abuse, etc. The fact of life is this: very few people like to be arrested or have force used against them, although some suspects are at least decent enough to acknowlege their own actions and take personal responsibility for them. Any peanut gallery members who think they could be cops should do a ride-along in their city/county and see first hand the crap police officers deal with...remember, every time the cops are called is a situation the caller could not deal with him/herself and neither could anyone else on the scene.
Read the whole thread - not just posts you were told to respond to. Then perhaps you might be able to figure it out.
That might be easier to disguise than the little club I have turned out of a piece of teak, with a lead weight in the center.
Smart thinking. That didn't occur to me.
I really don't know, it may be beyond human comprehension.
As an ex-cop I said it before: It’ll take the cops 5 or more minutes to get to crime scene—a lot longer in rural areas only exception is if a cop happens to be standing right at the moment and place where the crime is occurring. You figure the odds on that. CCW should be permitted everywhere if licensed. And as the economy worsens look for more violent crime.
I am certainly pro-cops, but of course, common sense tells you that they can’t be everywhere. I consider lawful, armed citizens as their posse.
I imagine the passerby’s were too stunned to react because most of us carry at least a tire jack in our car. A good whack across the head would have put a stop to that.
Much easier.
[you could just get one of those “tire checking sticks”....whatever the technical name for them is]
My dad once kept a length of log chain with a loop handle welded onto it under the seat in his truck.
It looked like something you might use to tow something with.
[prison guards get good ideas from their inmates]
To those who might question the “niceness” of creating such concealable “weapons”....well, you just never know when you’re going to encounter a devil killing some innocent.
Be prepared.
This ain’t Utopia.
I see it this way: they actually stopped and tried to help. They could have kept on driving, but they didn’t. They already put themselves at risk to intervene. Considering that, they probably did do everything they could to stop the attack but the crazed maniac was able to dispense with their efforts and finish the job. Who knows if a “good whack across the head” would have stopped a raving maniac? They stopped and they tried. It took a bullet to stop him.
I imagine the bystanders will ask themselves just what I am asking if they are honest with themselves. "Should I have done something?", is a hell of a question to have to ask yourself. I know.
The DUer’s mentality is why we have these problems. Another example of what we’re up against.
Okay, I would have hit him with my car.
Licensing is not needed. It is nothing more than a 'permitting' process. The right to defend one's self or others needs no permit, no license, in that it would become a priviledge the state may take away.
I believe they said the body was so destroyed, that they would have to use DNA to identify it...They probably have not even found the family yet.
Hopefully they will release the man’s name name once they’ve informed the baby’s family.
Officers have police officer powers throughout the state so it won’t be a problem at all.
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