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Marine sniper facing manslaughter charges [Sgt. John Winnick II]
North County Times ^ | June 5, 2008 | MARK WALKER

Posted on 06/05/2008 7:04:51 PM PDT by RedRover

CAMP PENDLETON ---- A Marine sniper has been charged with two counts of voluntary manslaughter in the June 2007 deaths of two civilians in Iraq.

The sniper, Sgt. John Winnick II, faces additional accusations of aggravated assault against two other civilians and failing to adhere to the military's rules of engagement.

The charges represent the fifth case involving alleged unlawful killings in Iraq to have been brought against Camp Pendleton Marines since the U.S. invasion in March 2003.

A hearing for Winnick will take place at Camp Pendleton this summer to determine if the charges against him should stand.

The charges were disclosed to the North County Times during a Thursday telephone conversation with Gary Myers, a civilian attorney who has been hired to represent Winnick. He added he had just been brought into the case and had not yet received a full briefing.

A Marine attorney with intimate knowledge of the case also confirmed the charges, which have not been made public by base officials.

According to a charging document, Winnick is alleged to have killed the civilians on June 17 while operating out of Combat Outpost Golden near Lake Tharthar in Iraq's western Anbar province. The charges also allege he fired at two others without first making a positive determination that any of the civilians posed a threat.

Winnick was a member of Camp Pendleton's 3rd Battalion, 1st Marine Division working with the base's 13th Marine Expeditionary Unit when the incident occurred.

"The basic allegation is that he shot these people without justification and not having positively identified them as having hostile intent," said the Marine attorney who requested anonymity because the charges have not yet been announced publicly.

If ordered to trial and convicted, Winnick could face up to 40 years in prison and a dishonorable discharge. He was on his fourth combat assignment when the incident occurred, according to the Marine attorney.

Prosecutors have asked that a fact-finding Article 32 hearing for Winnick take place as soon as next week, but his attorneys are requesting a delay to give them more time to prepare their case.

Twenty other base troops have been charged with unlawful killings in Iraq.

Seven Marines and a Navy corpsman were charged in 2006 with the killing of a retired Iraqi policeman. All were convicted or pleaded guilty to offenses related to that incident, with the squad leader in that case, former Sgt. Lawrence Hutchins III, convicted and sentenced to 15 years in prison. His sentence was later commuted to 11 years behind bars.

Four officers and four enlisted men from the base were charged with offenses in the slaying of two dozen Iraqi civilians in the city of Haditha in 2005. Six of the eight, including an enlisted man represented by Myers, have since been acquitted or had charges withdrawn.

A fourth case involves the killing of four suspected insurgents that a squad of Marines detained during fighting in the city of Fallujah in 2004. Two Marines are being prosecuted on murder charges at Camp Pendleton in that incident while their squad leader, Jose L. Nazario, is being prosecuted as a civilian in U.S. District Court in Riverside because he is no longer in the Marine Corps and not subject to recall into the service.

The fifth case involved the killing of an Iraqi army soldier by Lance Cpl. Delano Holmes after the two got into a fight while standing guard duty at Camp Fallujah on Dec. 31, 2006. Holmes was convicted by a base jury of negligent homicide last December, ordered reduced in rank and given a bad conduct discharge.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: defendourmarines; marines; pendleton; sniper; winnick
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Sgt Winnick is a veteran of Fallujah, he's mentioned in Bing West's No True Glory. One of our friends was able to line him up with Gary Myers, who participants on Haditha threads will remember as lead civilian counsel for LCpl Justin Sharratt. Myers is the best and will give Sgt Winnick the best possible defense.

Most recent Haditha thread: VERDICT IN THE LT GRAYSON TRIAL: NOT GUILTY ON ALL COUNTS!

1 posted on 06/05/2008 7:04:52 PM PDT by RedRover
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To: 4woodenboats; American Cabalist; AmericanYankee; AndrewWalden; Antoninus; AliVeritas; ardara; ...

2 posted on 06/05/2008 7:06:42 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops,org)
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To: RedRover

These trials are an abomination.


3 posted on 06/05/2008 7:08:10 PM PDT by Parmy
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To: RedRover

Is this the guy Savage is defending?


4 posted on 06/05/2008 7:10:16 PM PDT by Chickensoup ( A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.)
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To: Parmy

I’m sure Murtha is onboard with this.


5 posted on 06/05/2008 7:10:34 PM PDT by doc1019 (I was taught to respect my elders, but it's getting harder to find one.)
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To: Chickensoup

Thats Col. Chessani


6 posted on 06/05/2008 7:12:51 PM PDT by camerakid400 (Oy Gevalt)
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To: RedRover

Sgt. John Winnick II is innocent.

Anyone who says otherwise is not a patriot.

Period.


7 posted on 06/05/2008 7:13:13 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: RedRover
This guy is charged the very day Lt andrew Grayson is found innocent.

Do you suppose the MF'rs in the press are trying to tell us something?

8 posted on 06/05/2008 7:15:40 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: RedRover

Hells bells. Time to clean out the damned people who are bringing these charges.

How the hell can our military fight any future wars with lawyers and politicians and newsmen (including Muslim stringers) breathing down their necks and questioning every decision made in the heat of war?

This is disgraceful. It’s time some of the people at the top began feeling some heat for letting this go on . . . and on . . . and on.


9 posted on 06/05/2008 7:16:33 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: RedRover

Are we at war or what? Hello?!! There are about a billion Muslim Islamofascists that want us all dead and our country totally destroyed. They want to rule the world.

Maybe we should just serve them tea and crumpets and little cucumber sandwiches or something. Maybe then the fanatics would leave us alone right?.

I thought the purpose of war was to kill as many of the bad guys as quickly as possible and break as much of their stuff like right now before they can do the same to us.

Maybe we could just send them all to Disneyland and they would love us and leave us and those darned, pesky Jews and Israelis alone and everything would be all hunky dory.

Yeah, that’ll work.

Maybe we could just have the dim Dhim Democrats talk them all to death.


10 posted on 06/05/2008 7:17:00 PM PDT by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islam. TWP VRWC)
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To: RedRover; All

I wish the left would stop picking on our troops...


11 posted on 06/05/2008 7:17:41 PM PDT by Poetgal26 (God bless the US Military and our vets! (RIP Sgt Matthew Maupin))
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To: Chickensoup

No, Savage is championing LtCol Chessani in the Haditha case. The charges against Sgt Winnick haven’t been made official yet.


12 posted on 06/05/2008 7:18:09 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops,org)
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To: xzins

damn right xzins. I’m so freakin’ sick of these “trials” I could puke. screw all these diaper-headed carpet flyers. nice shooting Sgt. Winnik.


13 posted on 06/05/2008 7:19:56 PM PDT by bobby.223
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To: RedRover

Nothing worse than fighting and trying to win a war while eating your own.

Thanks a$$holes


14 posted on 06/05/2008 7:24:23 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Election '08, the year McCain defined the word "dilemma")
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To: bobby.223

America haters all....media, liberals, islamofascists, communists, terrorists, ....


15 posted on 06/05/2008 7:25:02 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: Parmy

Amen, brother.


16 posted on 06/05/2008 7:25:07 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops,org)
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To: xzins

Yet FBI snipers can kill innocent women and children i.e Randy Weaver’s family and get a slap on the wrists.


17 posted on 06/05/2008 7:25:21 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: RedRover
Prosecutors have asked that a fact-finding Article 32 hearing for Winnick take place as soon as next week

Here we go again.

Gary Myers was just hired and the prosecutors want the Art. 32 Hearing next week. Typical!

18 posted on 06/05/2008 7:28:27 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: RedRover

As always, thanks for the ping and thanks for the terrific work you do with ‘Defend Our Marines’.
This will be an interesting case to follow.


19 posted on 06/05/2008 7:28:52 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: xzins

Sgt. John Winnick II is innocent.

Provide some factual evidence other than the link to this story please.

20 posted on 06/05/2008 7:30:20 PM PDT by Sarajevo (You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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