Posted on 06/05/2008 6:25:12 PM PDT by jveritas
In this election we have very a clear choice to make.
A choice between Victory against Islamic Terrorism or surrender to our terrorist enemy.
A choice between free market capitalist economy or socialism.
A choice between constructionist judges or liberal judges who legislate from the bench.
A choice between Life for the unborn or abortion on demand going wild.
A choice between lower taxes or higher taxes.
A choice between small government or big government.
A choice between John McCain or Barack Obama.
Let us choose John McCain. A Patriot, a war hero, and would be an excellent President.
God Bless America and our brave troops.
Not to worry...maybe they're just mavericks.
In this election we have very a clear choice to make.
***We had a very clear choice when there was a strong conservative in the race. FR is a conservative forum, not a republican one. Conservatives simply have no dog in this hunt.
Best of luck with your candidate, though. He’s going to need it.
“Guiliani never had a chance...”
Gee, and all he did was run in front in the polls for months and months. Go figure.
Mr. Giuliani would have had a much better chance with a different strategy, and frankly, Sen. McCain came within a hair's breath of being where Mr. Giuliani is today - NOT THE NOMINEE.
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Ah, so you use a straw man to refute my attack on jveritas’ straw man? I never compared McCain to Chafee. As for the ACU rating, since when do they get to decide who is and is not a conservative? As I understand it, they simply pick what they consider the conservative position on a vote and record whether or not the senator voted for it. So, McCain could vote for an abomination like comprehensive immigration reform yet maintain a high ACU rating by voting with conservatives on several minor bills. Sorry, I think for myself and don’t just suck up McCain PR.
That’s good. No fight intended, but Obama through 2012 can’t be overcome.
Perhaps you would remind me how many primaries Guiliani won.
Who nominated him?
He chose a losing strategy.
A different one may have had a different ending.
We don't really know, and anyone who claims to know is claiming something that they can't know.
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U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 103rd Congress - 1st Session
Question: On the Nomination Ruth Bader Ginsburg, of New York, to be an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States
Senator Name Akaka (D-HI), Yea
Baucus (D-MT), Yea
Bennett (R-UT), Yea
Biden (D-DE), Yea
Bingaman (D-NM), Yea
Bond (R-MO), Yea
Boren (D-OK), Yea
Boxer (D-CA), Yea
Bradley (D-NJ), Yea
Breaux (D-LA), Yea
Brown (R-CO), Yea
Bryan (D-NV), Yea
Bumpers (D-AR), Yea
Burns (R-MT), Yea
Byrd (D-WV), Yea
Campbell (D-CO), Yea
Chafee (R-RI), Yea
Coats (R-IN), Yea
Cochran (R-MS), Yea
Cohen (R-ME), Yea
Conrad (D-ND), Yea
Coverdell (R-GA), Yea
Craig (R-ID), Yea
D’Amato (R-NY), Yea
Danforth (R-MO), Yea
Daschle (D-SD), Yea
DeConcini (D-AZ), Yea
Dodd (D-CT), Yea
Dole (R-KS), Yea
Domenici (R-NM), Yea
Dorgan (D-ND), Yea
Durenberger (R-MN), Yea
Exon (D-NE), Yea
Faircloth (R-NC), Yea
Feingold (D-WI), Yea
Feinstein (D-CA), Yea
Ford (D-KY), Yea
Glenn (D-OH), Yea
Gorton (R-WA), Yea
Graham (D-FL), Yea
Gramm (R-TX), Yea
Grassley (R-IA), Yea
Gregg (R-NH), Yea
Harkin (D-IA), Yea
Hatch (R-UT), Yea
Hatfield (R-OR), Yea
Heflin (D-AL), Yea
Helms (R-NC), Nay
Hollings (D-SC), Yea
Hutchison (R-TX), Yea
Inouye (D-HI), Yea
Jeffords (R-VT), Yea
Johnston (D-LA), Yea
Kassebaum (R-KS), Yea
Kempthorne (R-ID), Yea
Kennedy (D-MA), Yea
Kerrey (D-NE), Yea
Kerry (D-MA), Yea
Kohl (D-WI), Yea
Lautenberg (D-NJ), Yea
Leahy (D-VT), Yea
Levin (D-MI), Yea
Lieberman (D-CT), Yea
Lott (R-MS), Yea
Lugar (R-IN), Yea
Mack (R-FL), Yea
Mathews (D-TN), Yea
McCain (R-AZ), Yea
McConnell (R-KY), Yea
Metzenbaum (D-OH), Yea
Mikulski (D-MD), Yea
Mitchell (D-ME), Yea
Moseley-Braun (D-IL), Yea
Moynihan (D-NY), Yea
Murkowski (R-AK), Yea
Murray (D-WA), Yea
Nickles (R-OK), Nay
Nunn (D-GA), Yea
Packwood (R-OR), Yea
Pell (D-RI), Yea
Pressler (R-SD), Yea
Pryor (D-AR), Yea
Reid (D-NV), Yea
Riegle (D-MI), Not Voting
Robb (D-VA), Yea
Rockefeller (D-WV), Yea
Roth (R-DE), Yea
Sarbanes (D-MD), Yea
Sasser (D-TN), Yea
Shelby (D-AL), Yea
Simon (D-IL), Yea
Simpson (R-WY), Yea
Smith (R-NH), Nay
Specter (R-PA), Yea
Stevens (R-AK), Yea
Thurmond (R-SC), Yea
Wallop (R-WY), Yea
Warner (R-VA), Yea
Wellstone (D-MN), Yea
Wofford (D-PA), Yea
U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 103rd Congress - 2nd Session
Question: On the Nomination (Nomination - Stephen G. Breyer ... to be an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States
Akaka (D-HI), Yea
Baucus (D-MT), Yea
Bennett (R-UT), Yea
Biden (D-DE), Yea
Bingaman (D-NM), Yea
Bond (R-MO), Yea
Boren (D-OK), Yea
Boxer (D-CA), Yea
Bradley (D-NJ), Yea
Breaux (D-LA), Yea
Brown (R-CO), Yea
Bryan (D-NV), Yea
Bumpers (D-AR), Yea
Burns (R-MT), Nay
Byrd (D-WV), Yea
Campbell (D-CO), Yea
Chafee (R-RI), Yea
Coats (R-IN), Nay
Cochran (R-MS), Yea
Cohen (R-ME), Yea
Conrad (D-ND), Yea
Coverdell (R-GA), Nay
Craig (R-ID), Yea
D’Amato (R-NY), Yea
Danforth (R-MO), Yea
Daschle (D-SD), Yea
DeConcini (D-AZ), Yea
Dodd (D-CT), Yea
Dole (R-KS), Yea
Domenici (R-NM), Yea
Dorgan (D-ND), Yea
Durenberger (R-MN), Not Voting
Exon (D-NE), Yea
Faircloth (R-NC), Yea
Feingold (D-WI), Yea
Feinstein (D-CA), Yea
Ford (D-KY), Yea
Glenn (D-OH), Yea
Gorton (R-WA), Yea
Graham (D-FL), Not Voting
Gramm (R-TX), Yea
Grassley (R-IA), Yea
Gregg (R-NH), Yea
Harkin (D-IA), Yea
Hatch (R-UT), Yea
Hatfield (R-OR), Yea
Heflin (D-AL), Yea
Helms (R-NC), Nay
Hollings (D-SC), Yea
Hutchison (R-TX), Yea
Inouye (D-HI), Yea
Jeffords (R-VT), Yea
Johnston (D-LA), Yea
Kassebaum (R-KS), Yea
Kempthorne (R-ID), Yea
Kennedy (D-MA), Yea
Kerrey (D-NE), Yea
Kerry (D-MA), Yea
Kohl (D-WI), Yea
Lautenberg (D-NJ), Yea
Leahy (D-VT), Yea
Levin (D-MI), Yea
Lieberman (D-CT), Yea
Lott (R-MS), Nay
Lugar (R-IN), Nay
Mack (R-FL), Yea
Mathews (D-TN), Yea
McCain (R-AZ), Yea
McConnell (R-KY), Yea
Metzenbaum (D-OH), Yea
Mikulski (D-MD), Yea
Mitchell (D-ME), Yea
Moseley-Braun (D-IL), Yea
Moynihan (D-NY), Yea
Murkowski (R-AK), Nay
Murray (D-WA), Yea
Nickles (R-OK), Nay
Nunn (D-GA), Yea
Packwood (R-OR), Yea
Pell (D-RI), Not Voting
Pressler (R-SD), Yea
Pryor (D-AR), Yea
Reid (D-NV), Yea
Riegle (D-MI), Yea
Robb (D-VA), Yea
Rockefeller (D-WV), Yea
Roth (R-DE), Yea
Sarbanes (D-MD), Yea
Sasser (D-TN), Yea
Shelby (D-AL), Yea
Simon (D-IL), Yea
Simpson (R-WY), Yea
Smith (R-NH), Nay
Specter (R-PA), Yea
Stevens (R-AK), Yea
Thurmond (R-SC), Yea
Wallop (R-WY), Not Voting
Warner (R-VA), Yea
Wellstone (D-MN), Yea
Wofford (D-PA), Yea
Please explain to me one GOOD reason to vote FOR McCain instead of all these reasons because of Obama, including Iraq!
McCain has not givin anyone a solid reason to vote for him, all I'm reading is the BAD that will happen if I DON”T vote for him!
Sorry, as you say, no sale. I can look up how often McCain voted conservative in those years to see if he "radically changed" by 2000 and went from being mostly reliable conservative to a slimey liberal voting with us less than half the time. Here is how often he supported the American Conservative Union from 1997 to 2000:
McCAIN, JOHN S.
1997 - 80%
1998 - 68%
1999 - 77%
2000 - 81%
Looks he had a bum year in 1998 (though he STILL managed to support us nearly 70% of the time), but the alledged "radically changed, turned leftist" McCain scored a respectable 77% in 1999 and got a conservative rating of 81% by 2000, one point higher than the "old, reliable McCain" from 1997.
Yep, no sale. Your statements don't match his voting records.
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BTW, for comparison, here's an ACTUAL example of a a "radical change":
SHELBY, RICHARD
1993 - 42%
1994 - 55%
Switches parties when GOP takes control of Congress
1995 - 91%
1996 - 90%
Thanks Ed, Did you catch that williams, bunch of folks off your list now eh?
That is where we disagree “my Friend”.
Obambi is evil in a really stupid way.
McQueeg is all about himself, just like Billy Jeff.
Obambi will be run by others who will fail to ensure his success.
Mc Queeg is hellbent on ensuring our demise.
He has the most A/B normal.. i.e.
biggest case of BDS/Small you know whattie on the Planet.
Obama is just plain ill educated as well as being a Soros puppet.
The Legislature will keep in check.
Hold on Pal, It’s gonna be a bumpy ride either way.
It’s really heart-breaking reading a lot of these replies. I just don’t know what to say. The Republic is having great difficulty rallying to its own defense.
Good night. I have to get up in 5 hours.
Why George Herbert Walker Bush, of course. The history, which I'm sure you recall, was his fear that a true conservative nominee would get "Borked," he offered up 145 pounds of pablum.
Please remember McCain's own words, when he said that he might not be able to support Samuel Alito because "he wears his conservatism on his sleeve."
You claimed McCain votes with us less than 50% of the time. IF that were true, his voting record would be compariable to Chafee (though Chafee is really really liberal, he had an ACU rating of 16%, so a more accurate comparison would be that McCain would be an Arlen Specter clone, as Specter votes "with us" about 42% of time)
Since I know McCain is nowhere near as liberal as Specter, your argument is false, ACU ratings or not.
Furthermore, I can probably find half a dozen DIFFERENT conservative organizations (not single issue organizations like say, Americans for Immigration Reform) that rank members of Congress, and McCain will score well over 50% "with us" on ALL of them.
Your allegations claiming we don't get McCain to support at least 50% of our positions is simply false. McCain votes like a DemocRAT on a handful of issues like immigration and ANWR, but on the majority of issues out there, he supports the conservative position.
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