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Fears grow that Obama can't win: White working class Democrats will defect to McCain
The Guardian ^ | June 1, 2008 | Paul Harris

Posted on 05/31/2008 10:21:21 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

With senator Barack Obama poised this week to clinch his party's nomination for President, there are growing fears in some quarters that the Democratic party may not be choosing its strongest candidate to beat Republican John McCain.

Senator Hillary Clinton has been making that argument for weeks. Now some recent polls and analysis, looking particularly at vital battleground states and support among white voters, have bolstered her case - even as Obama looks certain to become the nominee.

Obama supporters reject this argument and point to his record of boosting Democratic voter turnout, especially among the young. But sceptics in the party, already nervous about nominating Obama after the furore over outspoken pastor Jeremiah Wright, are growing increasingly concerned. 'There is an element of buyer's remorse in some areas. The question is whether it gets really strong now or in September - or even after the election is over, if he loses,' said Steve Mitchell, head of political consultancy Mitchell Research.

Another boost to Clinton's case came late last week after a pro-Obama preacher gave a race-tinged rant against her at Obama's church in Chicago. In a recent sermon Michael Pfleger - a long-term Obama backer who is white - mocked Clinton as an entitled white person angry at a black man having beaten her. His angry, red-faced speech, in which he mimicked Clinton weeping, was played repeatedly across American cable channels and the internet.

The news sent shock waves through Democratic circles; many had hoped Obama had put 'pastor problems' behind him. 'It is more of the same problem as Wright. It reinforces the image among some voters that Obama does not share their values,' said Mitchell.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; blackvote; bluecollarvote; crossovervote; democrats; election; elections; hillary; mccain; obama; operationchaos; pfleger; whitevote
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To: supremedoctrine

Some ivory tower university sobotoria might burn...


61 posted on 05/31/2008 11:35:19 PM PDT by karnage
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To: Truthsearcher

But he kept instructing people to vote for her long after it became apparent that she was stronger than Obama,


62 posted on 05/31/2008 11:35:49 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Buy a Mac ...)
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To: Nipfan

A lot of voters see what he really is - and like it.


63 posted on 05/31/2008 11:37:55 PM PDT by karnage
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To: karnage
And of course McCain is hampered by the fact that many conservatives will not come out and vote for him...

...due to the fact McCain has made it clear he despises them and doesn't need their votes.

Just clarifying things.

64 posted on 05/31/2008 11:42:43 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY (Your parents will all receive phone calls instructing them to love you less now.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
An Obama nomination would be a pollsters nightmare. There are a significant number of white Americans who would lie to a pollster to keep from being viewed as racist. There are probably a number of African Americans who would similarly lie to a pollster to keep from being viewed as an “Uncle Tom”.
65 posted on 05/31/2008 11:45:25 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter ( Who is America's George Galloway?)
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To: GATOR NAVY

No, you did not “clarify” anything. There was nothing unclear in my post.


66 posted on 05/31/2008 11:49:02 PM PDT by karnage
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To: joebuck
This is what happens when you cobble togeather a coalition of various interest groups with conflicting victim mentalities and an irrational sense of entitlement. They have met the true enemy and it is them.

It's what I like to call the Battle of the Victimologies.

67 posted on 05/31/2008 11:49:48 PM PDT by TheThinker (Capitalism is the natural result of a democratic government.)
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To: pepsionice

Money is no object.
I’m sure Hillary can pay off her campaign debts through book tours and lectures.


68 posted on 06/01/2008 12:06:05 AM PDT by Milligan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Note the headline; “Fear grows”. Howabout “optimism over
Obama losing”. That’s my headline.

The great fear is Obama the bumbler could be
elected.


69 posted on 06/01/2008 12:10:41 AM PDT by ChiMark
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To: karnage

“And of course McCain is hampered by the fact that many conservatives will not come out and vote for him.”

Given his health and age, should he pick a young, hard core conservative VP, he’s got my vote.


70 posted on 06/01/2008 12:19:41 AM PDT by Grunthor (The GOP would be better off LOSING then electing McCain. - MNJohnnie)
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To: roses of sharon

Obama is Palmerizing Hillary.

He is trying to rub Hillary out just like he did with Alice Palmer. He had Palmer’s petition signatures challenged.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_J._Palmer

Obama is a sexist.


71 posted on 06/01/2008 12:25:41 AM PDT by Milligan
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To: Milligan

Absolutely:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KACQuZVAE3s


72 posted on 06/01/2008 12:47:35 AM PDT by Bushwacker777
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To: PAR35

“I’m ready to put out my Baraq Hussein sign. But I’d like to see ReCreate ‘68 take it to the streets first.”

We’re liable to overdose on schadenfreude before this is over. Obama: Dem Party’s biggest loser since Jefferson Davis.


73 posted on 06/01/2008 12:50:54 AM PDT by atomic conspiracy (Victory in Iraq: Worst defeat for activist media since Goebbels shot himself.)
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To: BunnySlippers

Yes, and to great effect! Obama is an even weaker candidate thanks to the extended Democrat primary. Rush played it perfectly.


74 posted on 06/01/2008 1:07:23 AM PDT by shempy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
They're stuck with him. If the superdelegates switched back to Hillary, cities all across this nation would burn.

Not when the videos of his wife and the questions about the music minister surface.

75 posted on 06/01/2008 1:12:25 AM PDT by Ingtar (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery. - ejonesie22)
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To: Ingtar
"Not when the videos of his wife and the questions about the music minister surface."

Barack Hussein Muhammad Obama (PBUH) could be photographed with a live boy and a dead girl in his bed and still receive the support of the Kool-Aid drinkers (99% of blacks, latte liberals, college kids and the media). IMO, dozens of cities will burn if BHO doesn't receive the democratic nomination! I don't know what's going to happen when he loses to John McCain, but that's a separate issue.

76 posted on 06/01/2008 1:38:50 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (McCain could never convince me to vote for him. Only Hillary or Obama can!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Disenfranchising voters and stealing unearned Delegates for the Messiah is now called “Change You Can Believe In!!”


77 posted on 06/01/2008 1:42:27 AM PDT by tcrlaf (VOTE DEMOCRAT-You'll look great in a Burka!)
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To: ConservaTexan

“If the superdelegates switched back to Hillary, cities all across this nation would burn.
T
hey will burn if McCain wins. Some people like to riot.”

OK. Bring it. That doesn’t say much about the citizenry. However, we cannot let fear of violence control elections. What are we? Myanmar? Kenya? Sierra Leone? Do those who claim to be CITIZENS of this country place so little value on the free exercise of their citizenship that they would throw tantrums if they don’t get their way?


78 posted on 06/01/2008 1:47:47 AM PDT by combat_boots (She lives! 22 weeks, 9.5 inches. Go, baby, go!)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Here we go again. I can expect out of state license plates galore now. I have seen a few.


79 posted on 06/01/2008 1:51:36 AM PDT by combat_boots (She lives! 22 weeks, 9.5 inches. Go, baby, go!)
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To: Prole

The thing about hicks is we can tell s$!t from shinola. You coastal folks out there can just go right on sashaying around with your fancy talk.


80 posted on 06/01/2008 1:56:51 AM PDT by combat_boots (She lives! 22 weeks, 9.5 inches. Go, baby, go!)
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