Posted on 05/31/2008 10:21:21 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
With senator Barack Obama poised this week to clinch his party's nomination for President, there are growing fears in some quarters that the Democratic party may not be choosing its strongest candidate to beat Republican John McCain.
Senator Hillary Clinton has been making that argument for weeks. Now some recent polls and analysis, looking particularly at vital battleground states and support among white voters, have bolstered her case - even as Obama looks certain to become the nominee.
Obama supporters reject this argument and point to his record of boosting Democratic voter turnout, especially among the young. But sceptics in the party, already nervous about nominating Obama after the furore over outspoken pastor Jeremiah Wright, are growing increasingly concerned. 'There is an element of buyer's remorse in some areas. The question is whether it gets really strong now or in September - or even after the election is over, if he loses,' said Steve Mitchell, head of political consultancy Mitchell Research.
Another boost to Clinton's case came late last week after a pro-Obama preacher gave a race-tinged rant against her at Obama's church in Chicago. In a recent sermon Michael Pfleger - a long-term Obama backer who is white - mocked Clinton as an entitled white person angry at a black man having beaten her. His angry, red-faced speech, in which he mimicked Clinton weeping, was played repeatedly across American cable channels and the internet.
The news sent shock waves through Democratic circles; many had hoped Obama had put 'pastor problems' behind him. 'It is more of the same problem as Wright. It reinforces the image among some voters that Obama does not share their values,' said Mitchell.
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The public wants to poke Bush and other Republicans in the eyes. With McCain’s history of being an independent maverick, the public feels that McCain might be okay. In fact, the more Rush and Ann Coulter criticize McCain, the more appealing McCain becomes to independents.
IIRC, he told a pretty big whopper at that speech. Comparing the U.S. auto industry to Japan's, he said words to the effect that the U.S. fleet average was around 20 M.P.G., while Japan's was something like 32 M.P.G. The reality is that while the Jap auto makers do have a higher fleet average, they beat the U.S. fleet avg. by something like 1/2 M.P.G.
The man just CAN'T resist telling a lie...
The story that keeps getting missed here is that these are democrats that the media is calling racists.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
I am amazed at Obama’s popularity, despite his implicit sanction Wright’s rants and lack of experience, etc. Such popularity can mostly be attributed to the sad reality that Democrats typically hold to the same “victim mentality” that Wright espouses, and which Communism plays upon. In addition, liberals will exalt any most liberal leader whose foundation is the non-substantive deslusionary “hope” of an Obama, or our own (deliver us from) Deval Patrick (Gov. MA), promising “change” and more services at no real cost, and promoting the same destructive anti-Christ “ideals” that increasingly have us slouching toward Sodom.
People who riot have a “Death Wish” here in America. The majority is not going to tolerate this kind of crap. They will be shot where I live. God I live the Second Amendment.
The Bottom Line,
NSNR
Both parties will send forth a candidate most of their party can’t stand.
Kind of like two armies sending forth their weakest soldier to fight it out.
Replace the word "people" with "loyal Americans" and you'll have it nailed.
we used to call it urban renewal
they should feel free btw, as long as they stay out of my leafy bucolic burb
I guess we, the people will have to post it on You tube then, cause it looks like the RNC ain't going to do anything. But then, we could do just like Regan, and take it directly to the American voter. Because of the internet, we have the greatest opportunity.
LMAO!
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I suppose I set my expectations too high for some folks, but that's the way it goes.
Do you really think Ohio would pick Obama over McCain? Wow. If it's that close, I don't even want to think about November.
This one is a slap fight then.
He will never get the Korean, Hispanic, Jewish and non-liberal White vote IMO.
Clinton is campaigning to (1) win, and (2) If she doesn't win to kill Obama's chance to win the general.
She will be the candidate in 2012 if Obama loses. I'll bet she takes this fight to the floor of the convention, and I'll bet blood is spilled.
And, I don't think this can be healed by Obama picking her as VP.
If she ran as a 3rd Party candidate and had the numbers going in high enough to scare the Obama-ites she would be functioning like Perot did, and probably “throw’ the election to McCain, who would likely have won anyway. It’s six of one, half-dozen of another. The Dem Establishment, which she and Bill in effect “ruled” until just recently, is going to have to decide on their own that they were foolish to have rolled the dice and picked Obama as the “New Clinton”> I do think they made a terrible mistake, and said so over and over on FR since the first big Obama “surge” had everybody stunned. THey are now in the unenviable position of looking at the near future and seeing that it may be “closer” than they wanted it to be.
They know if they continue (with the tacit approval and active help of the MSM of course) to keep promoting Obama as the “heir apparent”, that the negatives about him will probably keep rolling in, and there will be MORE defection to McCain by die-hard Hillary supporters, and that makes it even MORE unlikely that Obama would ever win the Presidency. SO-—just how badly DO the Dems want the Presidency? They are getting a clearer picture every day , like it’s an image slowly coming into focus in the developer bath in the darkroom: Obama is no sure thing. Obama will ENSURE a McCain victory. Should we find a way to get back to certifying Hillary? How can the superdelegates explain their reversal and justify throwing Obama under the bus, when all the propaganda has been directed toward christening Obama with the kind of “inevitability” HRC (and THEY!) thought was hers and theirs just 6-8 months ago??) The picture is coming clearer to me now, that a nice double whammy would be McCain picking HRC for his VEEP, but to do that would be to broadcast that he is indeed the RINO most of us think he is. It would however ENSURE he would win over Obama.
It won’t happen but it is logical that it could. SO, what would eventuate from that scenario? Everything will have come full circle again:The Dem Establishment , seeing the prospect of total defeat, would disentangle Hillary from her new identity as a McCain veep, and find a way to anoint her as THEIR candidate, with Obama perhaps as HER VEEP choice. SHE certainly wouldn’t want this, any more than McCain would want her as HIS Veep. But stranger compromises have happened in the back rooms, and figuring out how this story could run its course, is a lot of fun.
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HAVING said ALL THAT, I am just remembering now a dream I had last night (I just rolled out of bed 30 minutes ago)-——I am on a city street, very alive with the buzz of hundreds of people-—some political event or other is currently taking place, and I am making my way to it-—I look up and notice Teddy Kennedy, looking huge, and wrapped in flowing garments, is making his way down the middle of the street, by himself, probably on his way to his car.....I am shocked to see him, especially by himself, so soon after the terrible news about him was released. A rush of sympathy overcomes me and I want to acknowledge that I see him , so I yell out “Senator Kennedy!!! without even turning to look at me, he replies in a loud bellowing emphatic voice “NEVER MIND!!!!!!!”
-——maybe there’s a symbolic lesson there for all of the
above, and what’s going on in this weirdest of “election cycles”.
Their not stuck yet! Best to keep a low profile until we see the whites of his eyes!
And buy some more ammo in case the cities light off.
And in the event he wins, the cities will really light off, so you'll need the ammo anyway!
Yes. Don't eat meatloaf so late before you go to bed! ;^)
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