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1 posted on 05/27/2008 1:35:26 PM PDT by Red Badger
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Not the first public demonstration of cold fusion, but the first in Japan.


51 posted on 05/27/2008 2:22:33 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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"However, no one - including Fleischmann and Pons - could duplicate the experiment, leading many people to consider cold fusion a pseudoscience to this day."

Not true. A US group a year or so ago duplicated Fleischmann and Pons experiment and detected fusion directly (by measuring the tracks etched into a detector chip by high-energy alpha particles that could ONLY have come from a fusion process).

There's a video and paper summation on the web. Don't know if that was ever linked on FR.

52 posted on 05/27/2008 2:23:20 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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The 1989 demonstrations by Fleischmann and Pons were not routinely replicable, but some experimenters did experience some unexplained effects that suggested possible nuclear level reactions. I would suggest that research on cold fusion could have more beneficial effects than researching farcical global warming or producing ethanol from corn.
53 posted on 05/27/2008 2:24:40 PM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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Was a neutron detector present for the demo?


56 posted on 05/27/2008 2:27:44 PM PDT by fso301
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Even if it became proven, workable technology in short order, the RATS would make it illegal to “drill this well”, too.


57 posted on 05/27/2008 2:27:56 PM PDT by RatRipper
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Essentially, cold fusion would make oil obsolete.

Wouldn't that be nice, we could tell the Angry Ayatollahs, the Mad Mullahs and the sorry Saudis to go to take long run on a short pier.

We have plenty of oil and gas for all those other things other than burning that oil are used for. Lubrication, plastics, fertilizers, etc, etc.

77 posted on 05/27/2008 3:32:14 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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My senior year in high school we were required to put together a science project and the top 3 projects would go to the state science fair.

I was more interested in chasing girls than doing a science project as was my partner. So we got together the night before it was due to do our project.

We decided to do power from a potato. Seemed easy enough. Just shove two wires into opposite sides of the potato and hook it up to a light bulb from my parters train set.

Except...

It didn't work. We knew we were doing something wrong, but we had no idea what. There was no Internet to help us out, the libraries were closed, and we had to turn this in in the morning.

So, with an exacto knife I very carefully cut the potato open and planted a AA battery inside the spud. The light lit up after we put the potato back together. In fact, the darn thing would blind you.

We showed off our project and much to our surprise (not) we were not selected to go to state. However, we did get an A minus on the project. Feeling very proud of ourselves we went back to our responsibilities of girl chasing.

At my graduation the teacher pulled me aside and reminded me of the project. He wanted to know how we got the battery in the potato. The reason we got the A minus was because he couldn't find where we had cut the potato open and he admired our ingenuity.

Cold fusion reminds me of this story.

83 posted on 05/27/2008 3:57:02 PM PDT by CougarGA7 (Wisdom comes with age, but sometimes age comes alone.)
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Bflr


88 posted on 05/27/2008 8:00:13 PM PDT by Justa (Politically Correct is morally wrong.)
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Cold fusion?

That's what happened during sex with my first wife....

89 posted on 05/27/2008 8:09:27 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Hillary / Obama - 2008 <---Bet on it. She will do it to win.)
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thanks, bfl


95 posted on 05/27/2008 10:24:17 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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This topic and the posts in this thread have so many places to talk about that it is practically impossible to decide ;)
97 posted on 05/27/2008 10:58:59 PM PDT by valkyry1
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To: AdmSmith; bvw; callisto; ckilmer; dandelion; ganeshpuri89; gobucks; KevinDavis; Las Vegas Dave; ...
Thanks neverdem. Probably of some interest.

98 posted on 05/27/2008 11:03:18 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Profile updated Monday, April 28, 2008)
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It's for real this time 

Arata is 84 year old retired professor emeritus. Look at his photo. He is not a liar plus he is not going to ruin his name and honor at age 84. He is old school Japanese where this is very important

Check out Mr. Arata. If he is good then this cold fusion is good

http://newenergytimes.com/news/2008/29img/Arata-Demo-Photos-AT.htm

http://newenergytimes.com/news/2008/29img/Arata-De

Check out---->>> Photos from Akito Takahashi (Added May 23)

 

 

 

Arata-Zhang LENR Demonstration
May 22, 2008

 

Arata-Zhang LENR Demonstration
By Steven B. Krivit
New Energy Times
May 22, 2008

OSAKA, JAPAN -- Against a monumental backdrop of bad publicity for cold fusion since 1989, researchers in Japan on May 22 demonstrated the production of excess heat and helium-4, the results of an historic low-energy nuclear reaction experiment.


Yoshiaki Arata receiving Preparata Award in 2007
Photo: S.B. Krivit

The mastermind behind the demonstration is Yoshiaki Arata, a highly respected physicist in Japan who has been the recipent of Japan's highest award, the Order of Cultural Merit, and is the first person to have performed a thermonuclear fusion experiment showing large amounts of d-d reactions in Japan.

A lecture by Arata preceded the demonstration before a live audience in Arata Hall (named in his honor) at the Joining and Welding Research Institute at Osaka University. The demonstration took place in the Osaka University Advanced Science & Innovation Center with the help of Arata’s associate, professor Yue Chang Zhang of Shianghai Jiotong University.

Professor Akito Takahashi of Osaka University was an eyewitness to the demonstration.

 

 

"Arata and Zhang demonstrated very successfully the generation of continuous excess energy (heat) from ZrO2-nano-Pd sample powders under D2 gas charging and generation of helium-4," Takahashi wrote. "The demonstrated live data looked just like data they reported in their published papers (J. High Temp. Soc. Jpn, Feb. and March issues, 2008). This demonstration showed that the method is highly reproducible."

Takahashi wrote that 60 people from universities and companies in Japan and a few people from other countries attended, as well as representatives from six major newspapers (Asahi, Nikkei, Mainichi, NHK, et al.) and two television stations.

In an earlier conversation with New Energy Times, Arata offered his perspective on "cold fusion" research, which he calls solid nuclear fusion.

"Some people say we have reached the end of science, that there are no more great discoveries that remain. In my view, nature always has more secrets to reveal," Arata wrote. "I always stay on guard not to be too possessed by my own current knowledge. History has shown us repeatedly, for example, the foolishness of denying 'heliocentricism,' which resulted from individuals adhering too strongly to their own knowledge or to what was common sense in the past."

New Energy Times will have a more complete report in the next issue on July 10.

Arata-Zhang Demo Announcement

 


101 posted on 05/28/2008 12:31:06 AM PDT by dennisw
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BTTT


108 posted on 05/28/2008 6:10:01 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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However, no one - including Fleischmann and Pons - could duplicate the experiment, leading many people to consider cold fusion a pseudoscience to this day.

Many researchers have duplicated the same effects many times using a variety of apparatus; so much so that the current incarnation of the Office of Technology Assessment has recommended that the U.S. actively explore it. A representative from that office I spoke to back in 2001 or so when he was visiting the University of Chicago told me about this.
138 posted on 05/29/2008 4:55:13 AM PDT by aruanan
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Those scientists better watch out for this guy then:


146 posted on 05/29/2008 3:04:49 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If the angels could be jealous of men, they would be so for one reason: Holy Communion." -M. Kolbe)
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Ping


147 posted on 05/29/2008 3:07:21 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Preach the Gospel always, and when necessary use words". ~ St. Francis of Assisi)
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