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So, what's it gonna be folks? RINO or Marxist?
Jim Robinson

Posted on 05/22/2008 8:38:35 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: devere

“But I still have one nagging question: How is the Republican Party ever going to recover with McCain as it’s leader? Surely he will be the last GOP President, and then what?”

We’ll just have to wait and see.

Regardless of his failings, and there are many, having McCain serve four years as a “placeholder president” will buy time for Republicans to try to figure out what kind of future they have in an America that is rapidly changing, demographically and politically.

If McCain _is_ “the last GOP president”, it will say less about him than it does about changes to America - changes that make it less and less likely that Republicans and conservatives will have a major voice on the national stage for some time to come (if ever again).

What we are witnessing is the fruition of the Immigration Reform Act of 1965, a law that was destined to change the poltical and ethnic colors of America. Of course, that was pooh-poohed back then, but those changes were inevitable, once America was no longer to be protected as a Euro-centric nation. It has taken forty years, but this reality can no longer be denied or denigrated away.

Like a tsunami, the 1965 law was the “generational event” that launched the wave, which for decades has raced silently beneath the ocean surface. It is just now beginning to break into the national consciousness, hence the concern [mostly amongst Euros] about immigration over the past 5-10 years. But once you actually _see_ the wave bearing down upon you, it’s almost too late.

Wish I could be more optimistic. But one thing’s for sure, with McCain we have at least a chance of treading water for a while.

Obama would intentionally push conservatism beneath the wave.

- John


121 posted on 05/22/2008 9:14:45 PM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: bannie
"If your choice is between a really bad case of the flu or AIDS, take the flu! We can recover from that!"

This election is more like choosing between lung cancer and pancreatic cancer....

122 posted on 05/22/2008 9:15:36 PM PDT by KoRn (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: exit82
I see this differently.

I see us being in a fight for our Nation's existence, and I see a vote for McCain as, at least, a stalling of the danger.

This is an emergency. This election has been freakish and frightening in the possible results. It calls for immediate (this election) action.

We've learned much, and we can regroup after this election—and I think THAT is the good that will come out of this. We SHALL regroup.

I realize that many of us are just going to have to disagree here; but, for me, I know that I am correct.

123 posted on 05/22/2008 9:15:36 PM PDT by bannie (clintons CHEAT! It's their only weapon.; & Barry/Barack has two faces.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Good to see you back, sir.

History, of course, is replete with wisdom.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2016711/posts


124 posted on 05/22/2008 9:16:41 PM PDT by writer33 (The U.S. Constitution defines a conservative and Rush Limbaugh knows it.)
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To: Fishrrman

Join FALCON. We are going to take back the country for our founders and our posterity’s sake.


125 posted on 05/22/2008 9:16:58 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: JSteff
LOL! We've called this guy McLame for so long, that I keep putting an "L" in his name.

BTW--Mr. Robinson--I forgot to say how wonderful it is to have you back! Thank the Lord!

126 posted on 05/22/2008 9:16:58 PM PDT by basil (Support the Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
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To: Domandred
An Obama presidency outright plum scares the living bat crap out of me. I’ve got to vote for the turncoat rino.

I see the forces have brainwashed you to a vote against Hitler or Pol Pot you would select one of them. Me -- I'm holding strong & not supporting anyone who does not represent my views on a many of the issues. I guesss Chuck Baldwin gets my 3rd party vote as 4 out of the 5 last votes did.

127 posted on 05/22/2008 9:17:13 PM PDT by Digger (If RINO is your selection, then failure is your election)
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To: KoRn

Still a choice in that.

(KoRn came from North High!)


128 posted on 05/22/2008 9:18:22 PM PDT by bannie (clintons CHEAT! It's their only weapon.; & Barry/Barack has two faces.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
You are reasoniong with intelligence and foresight

You expect the dem prez will do the same?

How many of the dems have called for outright surrender and general pullout?

Do you think those in their right minds (no pun)will have obama's ear, or is there a possibility that the likes of Turbin durbin, stark, ried and their ilk will have influence?

I guess the question is, just how far are you willing to let this country sink in the hopes of the sheeple then waking up and revolting? Be advised, the media will not be on your side, ever, and sheeple love their good morning america pablum

129 posted on 05/22/2008 9:18:54 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: Digger

McVain is neither Hitler nor Pol Pot. Obama could easily be either.


130 posted on 05/22/2008 9:19:21 PM PDT by Domandred (McCain's 'R' is a typo that has never been corrected)
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To: wardaddy

“...whose only attribute I like is that he smokes”

Hate to break it to you, but he quit.

(Poof!)


131 posted on 05/22/2008 9:19:36 PM PDT by littlehouse36 (Celebrate economic diversity.)
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To: flintsilver7

Most sane people are voting for McCain.

I’m curious as to how we ended up in this situation. I think the question is not what will we do. The question is what will you do? Will you continue to torpedo Republican candidates that you don’t agree with? Will you have a running “(Candidate X) Truth File” each election cycle to attack those candidates you deem not conservative enough? You had a big hand in making this McCain bed, and I think it’s time you slept in it.

Being as you seek to inject sanity into this, why don’t you ask the GoP why they keep shooting themselves in the feet?

If you don’t like the forum and the proprietor and the way he sees fit to run it, you know where the logout is.


132 posted on 05/22/2008 9:20:03 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline 1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

I’ll take the Turncoat RINO. Having Obama or Hillary as our Command-in-Chief and head of state would be the worst possible outcome. McCain is the only realistic chance of preventing that, and keeping the pressure on Iran.


133 posted on 05/22/2008 9:20:10 PM PDT by HAL9000 ("No one made you run for president, girl."- Bill Clinton)
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To: Jim Robinson
It will be the RINO for me and mine. Glad to see you posting. God Bless.
134 posted on 05/22/2008 9:20:25 PM PDT by Peacekeeper357 ("I can no more disown him, than I can disown the black community." Obama)
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To: Jim Robinson
Saw Hillary in a white blouse and tan slacks....showing off her package. Heard her history lesson about voting rights, the 14th Amendment and the 'Glass Ceiling'.

Saw Obamalamadingdong railing against the inequalities that Blacks struggled against in Selma and Washington in Oregon and how this is a new day with the same ole same ole problems which can be rectified by electing him as the first black president from Honolulu (or somewhere) so that these same ole problems can finally be resurrected and addressed through 'Change' and 'Hope' and 'Rope a Dope'.

McCain's having a Barbecue this weekend. Were you invited?

Me neither.


Good to see ya back on the boards, Jim.
135 posted on 05/22/2008 9:21:03 PM PDT by BIGLOOK
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
because no presidential candidate is dumb enough to pull the rug out from under our troops while progress is being made in Iraq.

Obama is stupid enough to do just that and more.

136 posted on 05/22/2008 9:21:33 PM PDT by Domandred (McCain's 'R' is a typo that has never been corrected)
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To: Jim Robinson

I have to go with John “no coat-tails” McCain.


137 posted on 05/22/2008 9:21:45 PM PDT by oldbrowser (Few things are more dangerous than articulate superficiality.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Welcome home! Can’t keep a good man down, now can they? As to your question, I’ll quote the bumpersticker I saw the other day... Better a Rino than a Jackass....


138 posted on 05/22/2008 9:22:11 PM PDT by Hi Heels (Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult.)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

I agree with your father’s counsel.


139 posted on 05/22/2008 9:23:22 PM PDT by mbj (Citizen of the United States of America)
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To: exit82
“People get the government they deserve. And they are about to get it—in spades.”

Including those who get the government they allow to happen by not voting!

140 posted on 05/22/2008 9:23:46 PM PDT by JSteff (This election is NOT a presidential only. 3 to 5 Supremes' will retire! Vote accordingly)
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