Posted on 05/22/2008 10:46:31 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan
SAN ANGELO, Texas - A state appellate court has ruled that child welfare officials had no right to seize more than 400 children living at a polygamist sect's ranch.
The Third Court of Appeals in Austin ruled that the grounds for removing the children were "legally and factually insufficient" under Texas law. They did not immediately order the return of the children.
Child welfare officials removed the children on the grounds that the sect pushed underage girls into marriage and sex and trained boys to become future perpetrators.
The appellate court ruled the chaotic hearing held last month did not demonstrate the children were in any immediate danger, the only measure of taking children from their homes without court proceedings.
If you’re looking for my daughter you’d better have a warrant or you’ll be soorreeee.
you really have a problem with intelligent debate don’t ya? You know zero about polygamy, polygyny, polyamory, or pretty much.. any kind of lifestyle other than the one you believe in. Good luck with that attitude. I can see you refuse to actually research the subject beyond anything that supports your own petty little prejudices.
FLDS cultists practice polygamy and marry off little girls to old men.
That's just sick but you go ahead and defend it.
They dress up in fake pioneer costumes and teach fake gospel
from a fake prophet about how the "outside world" is evil
and how the menfolks are going to be gods when they die.
That's a cult any way you slice it.
When public officials break the law why is the first reaction of many people to call for their firing?
Shouldn’t we instead be calling for criminal charges to be filed? Firings kind of a given when someone displays gross incompetence but we shouldn’t stop there.
LOL!
No, but she's warming up her pipes.
The Texas Supreme Court is unlikely to dawdle on the issue.
Yes, that's exactly right. The warrant must describe the persons to be seized and the place to be searched. If you have an arrest warrant, you can't search, except to locate the person to be siezed. That's a requirement of US Constitution's amendment IV and Article 1 section 9 of the Texas Constitution:
Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Art. 1 Sec. 9
The people shall be secure in their persons, houses, papers and possessions, from all unreasonable seizures or searches, and no warrant to search any place, or to seize any person or thing, shall issue without describing them as near as may be, nor without probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation.
“That’s a cult any way you slice it.”
IMO its a cult. Does that mean they lose all their rights without even being charged with a crime?
BTW, they believe their prophet is real while you don’t. Whose opinion counts more for how they run their lives?
hard to tell from the pic but it appears she is really short or really young.
Old guys need to leave young girls alone, period end of story.
Ping to 1226
I believe one of the newspaper articles said she was 12 at the time, and that’s Warren Jeff’s the founder of this religion.
He’s doing the same thing Joseph Smith of the Mormons did.
“FLDS cultists practice polygamy and marry off little girls to old men.”
I don’t know if this is true or not. I know it is being harped around the world as an ongoing policy of the FLDS. Do you have some court documents with evidence presented proving this occurs? Do you have personal firsthand knowledge this occurs? Or are you merely repeating internet blogger rumors which have no basis in fact?
Been there, done that.
http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/salem/SAL_ACCT.HTM
From June through September of 1692, nineteen men and women, all having been convicted of witchcraft, were carted to Gallows Hill, a barren slope near Salem Village, for hanging. Another man of over eighty years was pressed to death under heavy stones for refusing to submit to a trial on witchcraft charges. Hundreds of others faced accusations of witchcraft. Dozens languished in jail for months without trials. Then, almost as soon as it had begun, the hysteria that swept through Puritan Massachusetts ended.
snip
The witches disappeared, but witchhunting in America did not. Each generation must learn the lessons of history or risk repeating its mistakes. Salem should warn us to think hard about how to best safeguard and improve our system of justice.
The problem with moral relativists like you is that you don’t know how far you hsve sunk into the mud until you suffocate in it.
All I have is pity.
Hey Bushwhacker: Look in the mirror. Yup-— it is true about fools being born every minute.
Narrow minds like yours can’t handle complex issues.
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