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Man alive nearly 179 hours after quake [China]
SINA.com ^ | 2008-05-20

Posted on 05/19/2008 10:23:55 PM PDT by brityank

Man alive nearly 179 hours after quake

YINGCHUAN, Sichuan, May 20 (Xinhua) -- Ma Yuan Jiang, a power plant executive, was rescued at around 00:50 a.m. Tuesday from the rubble in Wenchuan County of southwest China's Sichuan Province, nearly 179 hours after the May 12 earthquake.

The 31-year-old survivor was pulled by a Shanghai rescue team from the debris of a flattened power plant, after more than 30 hours' efforts.

Rescuers found Ma at afternoon on May 18 at the debris of a flattened office building, when they were digging hole trying to reach Yu Jinhua, a colleague of Ma.

Followed by an amputation operation, Yu was rescued at about 6:00 p.m. on May 18. Rescuers then turned to Ma and sent sweetened water to him through a straw.

Ma was receiving treatment at the temporary clinic of the Chongqing No. 3 Military Hospital, and will be sent by air to a hospital in Chengdu.

He was a power generation department vice director of the Yingxiu Bay Hydro-Power Plant.



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KEYWORDS: china; earthquake; survivors
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To: zhanli

Thank you for the very informative post. It is so sad that you have encountered some very stupid people here. They should have their posting privledges suspended as what you describe is what many others experience.

What they do is silence the discussion on here. It is there way of censorship. You do not need to explain yourself to them. Ignore them. Find others to post to and ignore their posts.

What they will also not allow you to do is discuss your views on Tibet. They are like Sharon Stone and Richard Gere even though the dislike these people very much.

I am ashamed at how stupid some people can be on here. Mostly I wish the moderators would get control of this situation. It is stifling discussion. Here we are talking thousands of miles away and they want to shut off the disucssion. They are stupid, stupid people.

Be well.


81 posted on 05/28/2008 9:53:52 PM PDT by gogov
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To: TigersEye

The next person I am going to ping is a moderator if you don’t stop harrassing people on here.


82 posted on 05/28/2008 9:55:41 PM PDT by gogov
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To: zhanli

P.S. I’m glad to know you are a female. I’m a male. Very male. ; )


83 posted on 05/28/2008 9:57:14 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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To: gogov; Admin Moderator

I already pinged a moderator on you. I’ll ping him again.


84 posted on 05/28/2008 9:57:57 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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To: gogov

No one is trying to silence you. I provided a clear rebuttal to your insulting post to me and since then you have done nothing but insult me and play adolescent jokes.


85 posted on 05/28/2008 9:59:47 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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To: zhanli
The earthquake has been corrected to 8.0 on the Richter scale the day before yesterday.

I did not know that. The worst I experienced was the 6.6 Northridge earthquake here 14 years ago, and that was terrifying. People there, even healthy survivors, will be nervous wrecks for a long time to come....

Two of my priests are travelling in China now, though not in that region. I wonder what they will see and hear about this.

86 posted on 05/28/2008 10:03:26 PM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: gogov; TigersEye; KungFuBrad
I almost forgot this post!

We all know that China sent guns to Vietnam to kill Americans and enslave the South Vietnamese.
We all know that America sent troops to Korea, Panama, Iraq, Grenada, Afghanistan, Yugoslavia to kill…oh, no…not to kill children, women, or any other civilian…not for money, not for oil, not for global strategy, but for justice and truth…

As far as I am concerned I do not need your friendship or understanding. Just as I don’t need understanding or friendship from Nazis.
It's funny, your reply remind me of an interesting book I read recently, called Hitler's Secret Backers. It was about some American bankers supplied Adolf Hitler with millions of dollars to help build up his Nazi party. It seems you don't need, but some others need the special friendship.
I didn't know whether America Government had blocked you from downloading it on internet.

It's very boring to take involved in the argument about those above. Nobody and nothing is sacrosanct including Country, a country is just a political division. Countries decide its actions or even make decisions using different sets of criteria, rules, or previous experience. But they are not always well defined and not perfect.
We welcome the discussion about Party system, society reform, even matter about Tibet. But just stop those stupid things we did – attacking each other again and again.

87 posted on 05/28/2008 11:09:40 PM PDT by laberphany
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To: La Enchiladita; gogov

Thank you for your kind understanding!Really! Especially at the very hard time for us,that means a lot to us!And i believe most of you are very kind.So do we!


88 posted on 05/28/2008 11:24:01 PM PDT by zhanli
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To: laberphany; Admin Moderator
We all know that America sent troops to Korea, Panama, Iraq, Grenada, Afghanistan, Yugoslavia to kill…oh, no…not to kill children, women, or any other civilian…not for money, not for oil, not for global strategy, but for justice and truth…

Most of us on this conservative American website think so.

89 posted on 05/28/2008 11:54:40 PM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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To: TigersEye; Admin Moderator
We all know that China sent guns to Vietnam to kill Americans and enslave the South Vietnamese.

Most of us, I mean conservative Chinese, think that is insults.
Is it still fair debate as you said to call every Chinese poster ChiCom without any judgment?
I met many smart people here, some have became my good friends, and I didn't believe they would think in the way just as you did.

90 posted on 05/29/2008 12:34:51 AM PDT by laberphany
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To: laberphany
First of all the quote you have posted twice here is not from this thread. That is explicitly against FR rules.

Is it still fair debate as you said to call every Chinese poster ChiCom without any judgment?

Secondly you can find no post of mine anywhere on this forum that calls every Chinese poster a ChiCom so you are falsely accusing me.

91 posted on 05/29/2008 12:44:35 AM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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To: TigersEye
First of all the quote you have posted twice here is not from this thread. That is explicitly against FR rules.
Read post #46, again

Secondly you can find no post of mine anywhere on this forum that calls every Chinese poster a ChiCom so you are falsely accusing me.
Maybe I am wrong about everyone, sometime you miss out someone unwillingly.

What about this?
Post #55 is sent to more than 7 poster including 2 Chinese.
The real question is are you the biggest fool to ever post to me or are you a ChiCom troll?
Post #51
Why would I want to argue with you? If brains were dynamite you couldn’t blow your nose.

What about next one?
Post #78
How long do we have to put up with ChiCom trolls that won’t respond when engaged in fair debate in a rational way and then post insults and threats to other FReepers and the forum itself?
Those who didn't reply or didn't reply quickly enough about your challenge were considered as "ChiCom that won’t respond when engaged in fair debate ".
It seems nobody responded as quickly as you expected, otherwise you didn't need to report it. Considering you ruled nobody out, that's evident to show you called every Chinese poster (who you think should debate with you) ChiCom.

92 posted on 05/29/2008 1:51:40 AM PDT by laberphany
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To: zhanli; indcons

93 posted on 05/29/2008 3:23:34 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: TigersEye

You are shouting down people. No one wants to speak up or contribute when an obnoxious loud mouth is in the room. Sorry if that is harsh but you need to hear it.

The topic in case you did not notice was about a person that was rescured against all odds in one of the most horrible tragedies to strike the world.

And all you do is attack people, taking the discussion way off topic. I understand this is a political forum, but there are also religious threads on here that are free of the politics. Why don’t you go bother those people for a while.

The rest of us would like to talk about China without some loud mouth calling us moles, shills, ChiCom and morons.


94 posted on 05/29/2008 8:41:28 AM PDT by gogov
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To: laberphany; gogov
Read post #46, again

My mistake. I did post that on this thread. And it was in context and it is true.

What about this? Post #55 is sent to more than 7 poster including 2 Chinese.

What about it? I pinged two Chinese posters because I mentioned their names in my post and used links to their posts to make my point. It is considered good manners on FR to ping anyone you mention in a post. The other posters I pinged because they are interested in the subject. So what?

Those who didn't reply or didn't reply quickly enough about your challenge were considered as "ChiCom that won’t respond when engaged in fair debate ". It seems nobody responded as quickly as you expected, otherwise you didn't need to report it.

It had nothing to do with how long it took to respond. That is silly. It was entirely because they were insulting me and ignoring all rational discourse.

Considering you ruled nobody out, that's evident to show you called every Chinese poster (who you think should debate with you) ChiCom.

Ruled no one out? That is even sillier. Was I supposed to mention every registered FReeper there is and say they weren't included? It was obvious who I was talking about. I wasn't calling anyone else to debate me I was using long established FR protocols and manners. Something gogov has been here long enough to know about. Talk about a disruptor gogov fits that to a T. He posted to me first and was insulting. He ignored every point I made and insulted me again. He mentioned other FReepers and didn't ping them to his post. He posted junk fitting of a teenager with emotional problems. No one asked you to post to me either so if you don't want to debate me then get lost.

95 posted on 05/29/2008 9:57:56 AM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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To: gogov
You are shouting down people.

How do you shout someone down with a text message? That is a stupid thing to say.

No one wants to speak up or contribute when an obnoxious loud mouth is in the room.

Then you should leave the thread. You posted to me first. I didn't ping you and you started the insulting tone with me. Take responsibility for your actions.

The topic in case you did not notice was about a person that was rescured against all odds in one of the most horrible tragedies to strike the world.

The discussion was taken off topic by other posters in case you didn't bother to read the thread before posting and I was responding to that.

I understand this is a political forum, but there are also religious threads on here that are free of the politics. Why don’t you go bother those people for a while.

Why don't you, dweeb. I don't need your insults or your suggestions.

The rest of us would like to talk about China without some loud mouth calling us moles, shills, ChiCom and morons.

When Chinese FReepers turn the discussion to politics and spout propaganda for the PRC I will certainly call then ChiCom trolls because that is exactly what they are. That is what you are. If you don't like it find another forum.

96 posted on 05/29/2008 10:03:38 AM PDT by TigersEye (Berlin 1936. Olympics for murdering regimes. Beijing 2008.)
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To: gogov

Never argue with such guys. They bring you down to their level and beat you with their experience.
What about we leave them alone in their cold war world, move to another thread and let them shout at air?


97 posted on 05/29/2008 6:28:09 PM PDT by laberphany
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To: gogov; TigersEye; KungFuBrad; indcons
To gogov:
Thanks for your kind word.Such situation is much similar in Chinese forum,especially in political forum.I read some of them and I understand not all people think in same way.I can get over it.

To others:
Just sometimes when we saw the insulting words about our country we can't keep our temper.I said that before,that it's just our nature custom to protect our country and people by overseas attack no matter who is our King.Sometimes such custom is misapplied in rude words and self-willed speaking which made situation worse and misunderstood by foreigners.I think that's why some westerner just call almost every chinese "brainwashed" or "Chicom" something.It's a mistake by different culture and expression way.

As for whether the King is good or evil,it's another totally different topic.Well,to tell the truth,most(not all) of the chinese think the King is good as a whole ,so it's not strange to see them defending the gov.t when they are defending the country and people.If that makes you determain our nature as "brainwashed" and "Chicom" then obviously there will be no "rational discourse" between both of us.

So if you want a "rational discourse" or "fair debate",stop making judgement before that. Show some respect and you will get much more from us,that's another important custom of chinese.

About those links which quoted by both side,I think they are not much helpful.I can find many more articles for both side.But who knows which is more close to the truth.It is sad there are no entirely righteous media in the world.Rumor,fake and biased news are everywhere,especilly in politics.
For many years I haven't trusted any thing I hear or even I saw.I just analyse it,not in childlike thought but practical and consequent way,that makes many things more clear in your eyes.

I am really tired of those insulting style of political topic these days.I would only reply when I saw posts which made me very angry or very grateful from now on,I guess.
You know,we are all "吃饱了没事干" or "闲得蛋疼“......If you really care about China and think you know China enough to debate it,you can find its meaning yourself. ^ ^

98 posted on 05/29/2008 7:24:23 PM PDT by adcycn
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To: laberphany; Virginia Ridgerunner; TigersEye; Army Air Corps; gogov

Spoken like a true supporter of the genocidal ChiCom regime. Exposing the evil nature of the ChiComs/CCP is an endeavor of all fair and decent people worldwide. The fact that some of you rabidly support the ChiCom genocidal maniacs tells us more about you than it does about them.

Begone, troll.

Notice that I have not addressed this email to our other Chinese posters. They don’t see, as yet, to be rabid PLA/CCP cheerleaders like you or the mouthpiece who claimed that there is NO censorship in China (a fact that even some Chinese posters attest to).


99 posted on 05/29/2008 7:42:13 PM PDT by indcons
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To: laberphany

“We all know that China sent guns to Vietnam to kill Americans and enslave the South Vietnamese.”

You responded: ‘Most of us, I mean conservative Chinese, think that is insults.’

Why are you insulted? It’s true, isn’t it? We have FReeper Vietnam Vets who can attest to the role your govt. played in Vietnam and Cambodia. Don’t think the entire world is made up of ignoramuses.


100 posted on 05/29/2008 7:44:54 PM PDT by indcons
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